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  1. #76
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    lol copypasta turns into a debate on art.

    I barely know water color from oil.

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    I think splattering a canvas with paint is actually mocking art. I wouldn't care if Jesus himself got cups of paint and tossed it on a canvas I want no part of it.

    What is even worst there are 4 year old girls and elephants selling art for outrageous prices.


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    No, I don't think that. I think there's grey area in which technical training meets the concept/vision (seems obvious, but I'll state that anyways). I think that a style is something gained from traditional study though. Dali and Picasso had great academic understanding, and chose to branch out with their styles. Looking at James Jean as a more modern, illustrative example. If everything were based on technical skill alone, then it would all be so monotonous and boring. On the other side, it is obvious when an artist draws a certain way because he/she lacks the skill. Someone mentioned the Banksy film, 'Exit through the Gift Shop,' and I think that's a good embodiment of what is wrong and right about art.

    The reason I dislike Rothko isn't necessarily because of what he did either, but rather the repercussions of his influence and how people talk of him. Like you said, if it's personal choice to unhem themselves to the constraints of realism and do something more abstract, then more power to him. It's the hoards of people who throw themselves into art thinking they can be the next big thing by painting shapes and splattering randomness without traditional practice and understanding the philosophy and conceptual techniques that seems to hurt the perception of the art world and in turn it's support among the masses.
    The fact you mention the perception of the art world there is key, I think, as I don't think the "I can do that too!" influence of abstraction has done much (on its own) to actually dilute the level of talent within modern/contemporary art. Or to have dumbed down its trajectory since the start of the modern/post-modern/contemporary eras.

    Somewhat removing the art market from the equation, since people with too much money will spend it wherever they're told and since it's the market where people seem to really command more attention than they perhaps deserve, it is much harder to succeed in one of the abstract genres than it is in the figural genres. If you can make things that look like what they're supposed to look like, you'll always have an audience and you'll always have a clear level against which your work can be judged. Without those figural or realistic cues, however, it is MUCH more difficult to convince people your work successfully conveys what you intended. It is also more difficult to dodge the accusations of repe ion or copycatting, as anyone who goes out and tries their hand at color field painting is automatically going to be compared against Rothko (or Ellsworth Kelley, or Gerhardt Richter, or whomever). It's difficult to find a new take on that. However, it is possible for several people who paint in a realistic style to be successful on their own, as the subject matter can often enough to differentiate them even if the style is similar to someone else's.

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    For all of you dispariging Rothko, I encourage you to visit the Rothko Chapel in Houston. These images do not do the works justice. See them in person.

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    For all of you dispariging Rothko, I encourage you to visit the Rothko Chapel in Houston. These images do not do the works justice. See them in person.
    The Rothko Chapel is amazing. I was skeptical before seeing it in person because the reproductions are so underwhelming, but that visit alone did a lot to finally knocking me onto the pro-Rothko side of the argument.

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    The Rothko Chapel is amazing. I was skeptical before seeing it in person because the reproductions are so underwhelming, but that visit alone did a lot to finally knocking me onto the pro-Rothko side of the argument.
    Yep. The whole experience is just really well done.

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    Meh, I look at most art like those ionic bracelets. It's more a power of suggestion, people telling you it's a great piece, than it actually moving you. For example, Starry Night looks like paint by numbers.

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    Van Gogh is one of those artists I appreciate more than actually like, so Starry Night doesn't move me much, either. But lots of art genuinely does.

    Not everyone responds to it, though, which is cool.

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    Van Gogh is one of those artists I appreciate more than actually like, so Starry Night doesn't move me much, either. But lots of art genuinely does.

    Not everyone responds to it, though, which is cool.
    seen his movie and struggles through life to be recognize as an artist...

    only cuttin his ear and death made him famous...

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    You use the same face every time. So you learned to draw one face and you hide your shortcomings in facial hair. What a loser.
    Wrong as usual...

























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    Like I said, you learned one face and you draw it over and over. Even the girl and the gorilla have the same basic face.

    Draw a basketball player.

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    Like I said, you learned one face and you draw it over and over. Even the girl and the gorilla have the same basic face.

    Draw a basketball player.

    You're one of those.."I gotten find something wrong"....most punks are. Dude, I've won contests I know my ability.

    The gorilla and the girl look nothing alike at all.


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    This guy and the chick have the same eyes. The gorilla and the dude have the same shoulders.

    Ooooh a comic book copy cat, you're my hero.

    If you were any good you'd post something other than drawapig entries.

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    You're one of those.."I gotten find something wrong"....most punks are. Dude, I've won contests I know my ability.

    The gorilla and the girl look nothing alike at all.


    Exactly. Thanks for admitting you can't draw for .

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    Exactly. Thanks for admitting you can't draw for .
    Of course I can't, you would never ever ever ever say anytjhing remotely close to...pretty good. That's not you, you're a prick in hiding, everything "must" be negative.

    I once drew a picture of a dog off those match book covers, entered a local contest, three counties, I won. We had a county contest when I was in junior high, we had to draw Lincoln. I won. We had an exchange art thing with Japan kids back in high school. I represented my HS.




    I know, I know it looks liike the girl.

    I don't think you realize how hard it to draw using this method.
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    Of course I can't, you would never ever ever ever say anytjhing remotely close to...pretty good. That's not you, you're a prick in hiding, everything "must" be negative.

    I once drew a picture of a dog off those match book covers, entered a local contest, three counties, I won. We had a county contest when I was in junior high, we had to draw Lincoln. I won. We had an exchange art thing with Japan kids back in high school. I represented my HS.




    I know, I know it looks liike the girl.

    I don't think you realize how hard it to draw using this method.
    lol

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    Truly disturbing.

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    Hahahaha!!!!


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    Oh, you thought I was talking about you.

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    Oh, you thought I was talking about you.
    Nope, just needed an excuse to draw a picture.

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    No, you didn't.

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    if you sign a contract that your image is not just raw meat but Original ?


    name your price.

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    if you sign a contract that your image is not just raw meat but Original ?


    name your price.
    You think I'm copying?

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    Dammit.

    First ing thread around here in years that I've been genuinely interested in and it gets taken over by Avante's tiresome bull .

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