Gasol missed 10 more games than Manu. He also makes an extra $5 million more than Manu. Per minute, this season, it's Gasol.
So far anyways.
You missed the point of what I said. I was only comparing guys who play the minutes Manu does and how much guys who play 24 minutes get paid in this league.
I never said per minute played he's the most expensive in the league. I was trying to show the value guys who can play 24 minutes have in the NBA money-wise.
Won't be surprised if manu returns sooner....manu will be alright
They'll be able to determine if there was a tear after the MRI tomorrow. Usually aren't able to diagnose a tear that quickly after the injury occurs.
He was able to walk off under his own strength so hopefully it's just a strain in which case i'd say he's out 2-3 weeks. If it's a tear, then Manu will probably be out a couple of months.
This is around the same time when he had his hand injury last year as well. oh well, nobody should be surprised by a Ginobili injury. Luckily the Spurs are deepest at the 2 and they have guys capable of stepping up.
I didn't miss your point. It's just such 'imaginary brackets' don't exist, simply because no other team rests stars like Pop does.
Now looking at paid-per-minute-played it's Gasol. Manu will probably be there at some point depending on how long it takes to recover.
It's no more imaginary than "per minute" brackets tbh. It's about establishing value. Guys who can only give you 24 MPG don't really make that kind of money. Guys that only give you 24MPG and still represent a major injury risk certainly don't. The one's that do all have horrific contracts by all subjective measures.
Other teams don't rest their stars because they don't have injury prone guys like Manu tbh. BTW Tim and TP both play at least 30 MPG..
Point being, making 8-10M per year, most of those guys log pretty big minutes. The ones that don't are injury prone guys on what are viewed as awful contracts or guys that got contracts late and fell off a cliff (RJ, Ben Gordon..)
Per minute brackets are simply all inclusive. You can compare against anybody else in the league. Imaginary brackets, not that much.
Manu is expected to give the Spurs more than 24 mpg come April, so saying he can only give you 24 mpg is a bit disingenuous. At least, I'm pretty sure the Spurs expect him to play more than that. Wouldn't you agree?
BTW, good to see you talking basketball.
All of you idiots saying Manu should retire are mind-numbingly dumb. Every team in this league would take him in a heartbeat.
I would agree except none of those guys produce per minute what Manu does, thus why they're viewed as awful contracts.
The strain diagnosis is preliminary. They won't know more until the MRI tomorrow. Let's hope it's a typical pulled hamstring and nothing more.
Oh, I fully agree that for the money they are paying him and more importantly for their basketball aspirations they expect him to play more - the issue is I don't know if he can. I also think you see his per minute productivity dip when you actually expand his minutes. That is my point.
I love Manu, trust him more than just about anyone in big moments and I hope you are right. It's just that history tells us it doesn't seem likely he will be able to log big minutes or stay healthy over the long run. Hopefully all this bad luck goes away and he can up those minutes to the 35 you need in the playoffs and that he can keep his per minute productivity up with the increased minutes. To me though, giving someone with all that risk 8-10M is a dicey proposition. I guess you could argue someone that's not as proven is dicey too at that amount, however, to me they are very different risks.
12 points and 5 assists in 12 minutes.
In on 22 points in his 1st 12 minutes.
What a smokin start.
Wonder if Stats Guy could confirm that's the most smoking pts/assists combo 1st qtr - 1st 12 minutes in SuperManus career?
for free? sure. in the same way teams would take an old Mike Finley. that's not saying much tbh
If he is suited to play around that time in the year and didn't play more than 24 mpg, that would be the first time in his career, or the Spurs are simply cruising. I haven't seen any indication why this season might be different.
I know you love Manu, no need to tell me.
History actually tells us he'll be there when we need him, minute-wise. He's obviously on the decline, and like Tim, you can't expect him to be the Manu from 3-4 seasons ago. That's just not realistic.
An aging Tim however is playing about 25% more MPG than Manu. To me that's a little bit of a red flag.
that's really a terrible comparison given Duncan is one of the most durable and consistent old bigmen in the game.
Ah thanks. I'm still leaning towards a strain since he walked out on his own but obviously we won't know until tomorrow then.
Yep. Wonder if giving him games off would help too.So a guy who gets injured a lot, is aging, you think playing him more minutes decreases his odds of getting hurt? That literally makes no sense and there is a very obvious reason Manu plays a measly 24 minutes. He has to be damn near the highest paid guy in the MPG range.
Lord Dipstick won't do that I'm just sayin wonder if more rest days off would help.
Like the playoffs, ya know?
Manu makes his minutes count... again, not comparing Manu to Tim minutes-wise, just simply stating production-wise they're both veterans on the decline and expecting them to produce the way they did 2-3 seasons ago is unrealistic.
It really isn't if you learn to read. I didn't say anything about durable.
we are talking about return value at their age and minute management are we not?
Gidollbly should never EVER be mentioned in same sentence as Duncan when it comes to those factors.
Nope. Read what you quoted. We were talking about production expectations from veterans.
LOL at Manu "holding back" the "development" of Gary Neal. What the is he "developing?" He seems quite capable of taking the whole game on his shoulders and hero balling it up right now. He's a ing pro at that . He's got nothing to learn. He's a mother ing simple superstar. Holy , pass the butter!
even worse. Seems to me Duncan is producing similar #s at similar MPG.
what about Chinobili?
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