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Every playoff series they played got progressively more lop sided. Like the first few games Dallas would barely win then by they would be blowing teams out by 20-30. Carlisle coached the out of that playoffs. Made some great mid series adjustments
That Mavs team was awesome in the playoffs. I know everyone assumes they still would have lost in the '12 playoffs if they would have kep that team together but I dunno...
Every playoff series they played got progressively more lop sided. Like the first few games Dallas would barely win then by they would be blowing teams out by 20-30. Carlisle coached the out of that playoffs. Made some great mid series adjustments
As a Spurs fan I hate to say this, but that 2011 Mavs team was simply, amazing! That playoff run was great and no one actually saw it coming! To say they were one of the worst champs is totally bs! Hates off to ya, Mavs!
Several media guys picked the Blazers to upset the Mavs. Portland was a trendy pick to win that series:Who didnt think they could beat Portland?
The Lakers were running on fumes. Since even the '10 run they had shown that there were chips in their armor, they were a terribly inconsistent team on the road and Kome was chucking at lower percentages than he is now...they were alot closer to the level of the '12 Lakers than the '10 Lakers. If you believe the hype that they were just laying low waiting to turn the playoff switch on (like is always the case with the Lakers according to the media) then I guess that was an impressive series win. I wasnt so much surprised that the Mavs won as much as I was that they swept them, but if you think about it Kobe-led teams usually fold when faced when adversity so it shouldnt have been that surprising tbh.The Thunder were a 4th seed that year. They were considered the future of the Western Conference but werent the power they are today.The Heat were the better team. The Mavs winning was strongly aided by LeBron choking, if he plays even close to his potential instead of scared Heat win.
The 2011 Mavs arent the worst but theyre not anywhere near one of the best of all-time either. Noone outside of ST (full of mavfans and mk suck ups) gives them that distinction.
It was an impressive run to beat the teams that they did. That doesn't make them the 86 Celtics or the 96 Bulls, but no need to on what they did.
The fact nobody has even mentioned the 04 Pistons as part of the discussion is hilarious. They're the one modern era team that won a championship without a top 10 player (while arguably every other team has had a top 5 player) on its roster and was the 18th best offensive team that year. People somehow use the fact they didn't have a top 10 player as a reason to prop them up but the reality is winning a le in the modern era without a top 10 player requires a big element of luck. They were taken to 7 games by the Nets teams people in this thread have been talking about when they had HCA and won a conference that still largely sucked. The team they played in the finals was giving the likes of Slava Medvedenko, Luke Walton and Kareem Rush consistent minutes because it was running on fumes with a starting PF playing on one leg and of course a shooting guard who was determined to keep the ball out of Shaq's hands and for better or worse chuck 20+ shots a game.
Robert Horry bodychecking Nash into the scorer's table was a pretty epic moment of that postseason tbh, and according to Grantland that's the hit that closed Nash's window. . . .
SpursTalk hearts Deeeee-troit Basket-baaaaall, didn't you know?
Earlier I thought about posting the '04 Pistons but I really didn't wanna type out why and the sort. But thanks to your classy post, I can just quote it and say "what he said".
Yeah the Pistons don't get mentioned because of all the Piston Krew suckups like Fkla who want to believe their boring ass 05 series was the best basketball ever witnessed.
2006 Heat
2004 Pistons
2003 Spurs/2002 Lakers
That would be the 4 worst le teams of the post-Jordan era IMO..
I'll go even further and rank them (from best to worst):
1. 2002 Lakers
2. 2003 Spurs
3. 2004 Pistons
4. 2006 Heat
Yeah that's basically what I was getting at. On any other basketball message board they'd get discussed, but since Detroit is the classiest team outside of San Antonio they don't here.
The Pistons defense in the regular season after they acquired Rasheed was like the best 30 game stretch on NBA history iirc.
i don't think anyone claims they were a great or even very good offensive team.
LOL Keith Van Horn, Kenyon Martin, Richard Jefferson, Kerry Kittles > prime LeBron
Do you imagine OKC with Chandler instead of Perkins? NBA=Fcked would have reached a whole 'nother level.
Why the 95 Rockets? The 94 team was Hakeem + crap, but the 95 team with Drexler? They went through 60 win Utah, 59 win Phoenix, 62 win San Antonio, and 57 win Orlando, all without homecourt.
ESPN analysts are stupid tbh, Im sure none of them gave Dallas a chance in the semis vs the Lakers even though like I said earlier the Lakers were clearly running on fumes. Either way thats far from nobody believing they could beat a lower seeded team. Im not ting on them either bro, everybody always thinks that cause I dont fall in line with slobbering the Mavs or Dirk that Im ting on them...I dont think theyre anywhere near the worst but I also wouldnt say theyre anywhere near one of the best champs. I mean what part of my previous post wasnt true? Its hard to consider their run one of the best ever when it could be argued that without a massive chokejob from LeBron they might not have even been the best team in the league that year.Several media guys picked the Blazers to upset the Mavs. Portland was a trendy pick to win that series:
It was an impressive run to beat the teams that they did. That doesn't make them the 86 Celtics or the 96 Bulls, but no need to on what they did.
LOL people saying 2011 Mavs. That team became unbeatable after blowing that huge lead in Portland. That LA series they went and took their cookie from behind in game 1 and then 2,3,4 were complete laughers. Then they dispatched a really good OKC team in 5, and Chandler, Marion, and Stevenson forced James to take jump shots all Finals.
Weird take considering the Spurs were actually the best defensive team in the league that season.
Yeah, its dumb to mention their offense/lack of superstar but completely fail to mention that they were one of the best defensive teams of all-time. But DoK mentioned it so of course all these people agree and were thinking the same thing all along.
No one mentions the 04 Pistons because of the way they completely humiliated LA. I know with hindsight everyone likes to act like that series was no surprise, but at the time the Lakers were enormous favorites to win and everyone thought the second round series with the Spurs was the Finals (especially with Cassell and Hudson both injured in the WCF). Most NBA fans had Fisher's shot as the one that won the le and everyone was expecting an 02 Finals or an 07 Finals that series. I still remember how stunned Al Micheals sounded all game when the Pistons came into Staples and just rolled them over in game 1. At the time that was considered the biggest upset in NBA history, and Pistons were killing them well before Malone got injured in game 2.
Early 70s? The ABA didn't start outclassing the NBA's talent until 73 or 74. The 70 and 73 Knicks with Reed, Monroe, Frazier, and Debuscchere were pretty talented, the 71 Bucks with Abdul-Jabbar, Robertson, and Dandridge were stacked, and the 71-72 Lakers with Chamberlain, West, and Goodrich? Gotta disagree with you there. Pretty much any champion from 74-79 was crap though, not counting the 77 Blazers since Walton was such an amazing player.
^Not to mention if Kobe doesnt make that bull shot at the end of regulation in Game 2, Detroit sweeps with none of the other games even being close.
07 has to be up there for the sole purpose of the clown who stole the fmvp
doesnt even spawn for the first 3 rounds, and spawns up against a scrub pg name after a boobie
The pistons with Rasheed dramatically improved so that while they may have finished 2nd or 3rd or whatever they were historically good in the regular season games they played with him
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