Spurs Nation: Ginobili would like to play two more years

[hater]

Not really, they can't.
Creating cap space through trades is damn hard to do and very costly in assets.

so just because something is "damn hard" it's not doable or possible?

that's a pretty weak argument.

again some team would offer Manu 8 figures. If available he'd be one of the top free agents out there. Now I'm not saying he's worth that, but some GMs would most definitely go for it.

[TD 21]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ginobili is worth $10M per season the next two years. Technically, looking at the metrics that measure the number of wins the Spurs get from Ginobili being on the team and then multiplying that number by the value of a win, Ginobili will have been worth the $14M he got this season.

Considering that Duncan set the bar at $10M per season, I think Ginobili will come in under that. If true, whatever he signs for will be a bargain. $7-8M would be a great deal for the Spurs. Even if he wants the same contract Duncan got, I'd give it to him.

Obviously we all hope Ginobili signs for the lowest amount possible in order to open up salary cap room. But let's not underestimate his true value ... he can still be great at times today and should remain a very good player in the next two seasons.

I agree with much of what you said in this thread, but not this. There's zero chance he should be (or will be, both because they won't offer it and he won't seek it) given the same contract as Duncan. No matter his popularity, he doesn't mean as much to the franchise, nor is he as important on court or as durable. I know it's not necessarily his fault that Pop is beyond overly cautious with him, but still, he plays roughly half a game the past two years and is constantly in and out of the lineup. $7-8M is fine, but not $10.

[vander]

so who still thinks he's worth more than 5 mil for 2 more years?



just retire man, retire today

[spursfaninla]

Manu's offense has not been good, granted.

Even during his bad play the last 11 or so games, he has had some very high assist games during Parker's absence, something that no other spur can regularly replicate. De colo had 1 or 2 games like that, but he neither reaches the peaks that Manu reaches, nor the regularity, and he certainly can't contribute offensively what Manu does, even compared to his current offensive production.

Manu is the only other back court player, besides parker, that can create for others. Neal can create for himself but is not nearly as effective at realizing when and where he should dish instead of forcing it.

Given these two needs (back court shot creation and assists), Manu's skill set, regardless of his current 11+ game slippage, still contributes things to this team that no other player can bring. If his current play reflects long-term his ability, his role with the spurs will obviously change because he can't guard and he can't score. If those are temporary things, then no biggie.

His current weak play is scary, because the spurs are going to lose early in the playoffs with Manu and the bench playing at the current level.

[Ditty]

Manu still causes a lot of defenses to commit to him, but $5 million a year 2 year contract sounds fair if he is decent in the playoffs. $7 million would be overpaying but if he has a few great games in the playoffs, and leads us to the WCF or Finals I wouldn't mind paying him that much.

[Dex]

Honestly, Manu's current play could be a good thing for the Spurs fiscally. If they base his next contract off of what he is currently producing, they could have him for a very reasonable rate.

Still, I'd prefer the Manu of yesteryear to show up for the playoffs, even if it did cost the Spurs more in the long run. We NEED Manu to be Manu if we want to see Timmy get number 5.

[tmtcsc]

I would like him to start playing this year.

[BackHome]

three year five mill with last year Spur option. His name recognition can get him more but what he produces on the floor is five mill at his age.