Warren Moon: " Tebow Can't Play QB In CFL"

[FkLA]

come play for the Talons Tebow

[Avante]

Are you intentionally this stupid? Two completely different games...it took a hail mary and a complete up by Denver's safety for them to not win that game. While against Pittsburgh the Broncos defense kept them in the game and then one of the best WR's in the league took a short pass to the endzone.

Old guys like you get so caught up with being a "winner" and the "clutch gene" that you probably thought John Skelton was going to have a good season because he had a winning record the year before.

Football is football, the team with the best athletes....WINS!!!!!!! Not surprised yor dumb ass doesn't know that.

Dude, dude, dude, hahahaha!!!!!!!!! Come on man, we can't play this silly...well if this and that hadn't happened and.....that's football. I say..."if they call that penalty the Niners win:"...and I'm a moron. See how that works?

Stupid is thinking a guy who excellled in the SEC, won NFL games can't play vs the lack of talent CFL, that's totally stupid. Look at the QB 's in the CFL (doubt you can name any) none of them are on a par with Tim Tebow.

[Avante]

Let me see the hands of those who have watched 4 CFL games in the last 4 years.

Pay attention people...

Who thinks any of those CFL QB's can start in the NFL? Anyone remember (of course not) Dieter Brock who came out of the CFL to the Rams? How'd he do? Yes Warren Moon is the big exception. Then there's Joe Kapp who is a lot like Tebow, he did...ok. If the star QB's in the CFL were facing NFL caliber defenses things would be totally different and it works the other way also, put Tebow up against CFL defenses, yep totally different deal.

I'm betting none of you watch the CFL yet just know that Tebow can't make there basing it on his NFL days, how ridiculous is that? The CFL Champion would have their hands full with .....Alabama.

Save the silly...oh yeah well Billy Bob made it...sure he did, now how about the other 96% of the league?

[gaKNOW!blee]

Football is football, the team with the best athletes....WINS!!!!!!! Not surprised yor dumb ass doesn't know that.

Dude, dude, dude, hahahaha!!!!!!!!! Come on man, we can't play this silly...well if this and that hadn't happened and.....that's football. I say..."if they call that penalty the Niners win:"...and I'm a moron. See how that works?

Stupid is thinking a guy who excellled in the SEC, won NFL games can't play vs the lack of talent CFL, that's totally stupid. Look at the QB 's in the CFL (doubt you can name any) none of them are on a par with Tim Tebow.

The are you trying to say?

[Avante]

The are you trying to say?

Basically.....you don't know . You don't even watch the CFL.

[Chinook]

Here's the problem. Tebow probably could be successful in the CFL running the Florida offense. They managed to score a lot of points, so maybe they could keep up with the CFL's passing teams. But if Tebow still wants to play in the NFL, he can't go back to that offense. He needs to learn how to be a traditional quarterback to make it to the NFL, but when push comes to shove, he's not good enough at doing that to be a starter in any league.

So he has a choice in front of him. Remain a gimmick quarterback and have a potentially long career in Cananda with no chance to going back to the NFL, or try to learn how to be a pocket passer and risk losing a chance to start anywhere. Or, he could switch positions and buy himself a few years. But that's no sure thing, either.

[Avante]

Here's the problem. Tebow probably could be successful in the CFL running the Florida offense. They managed to score a lot of points, so maybe they could keep up with the CFL's passing teams. But if Tebow still wants to play in the NFL, he can't go back to that offense. He needs to learn how to be a traditional quarterback to make it to the NFL, but when push comes to shove, he's not good enough at doing that to be a starter in any league.

So he has a choice in front of him. Remain a gimmick quarterback and have a potentially long career in Cananda with no chance to going back to the NFL, or try to learn how to be a pocket passer and risk losing a chance to start anywhere. Or, he could switch positions and buy himself a few years. But that's no sure thing, either.

I can't disagree with any of that. Sure!

But....this is about can he play in the CFL, yes he can play in that caliber of football and it's actually pretty obvious. Sure twek a few things, wow big deal. One more time............anyone who did what he did in the SEC can play in the low rent CFL. Those defenses might have one player out there who has NFL potential, that means a lot.

What it is is that nobody in this thread even watchs the CFL they are thinking about Tebow vs the NFL...HUGE...difference.

Kid out of a local high school (Tulare Union) named Dominique Dorsey, little cat, super quick, he didn't get out of training camp with the Redskins, he's running all over the CFL. Then there was Gizmo Williams, star return man in the CFL, came to the NFL....POOF!!!!!

The difference in the size with speed thang is the biggie.

[Chinook]

I can't disagree with any of that. Sure!

But....this is about can he play in the CFL, yes he can play in that caliber of football and it's actually pretty obvious. Sure twek a few things, wow big deal. One more time............anyone who did what he did in the SEC can play in the low rent CFL. Those defenses might have one player out there who has NFL potential, that means a lot.

What it is is that nobody in this thread even watchs the CFL they are thinking about Tebow vs the NFL...HUGE...difference.

Kid out of a local high school (Tulare Union) named Dominique Dorsey, little cat, super quick, he didn't get out of training camp with the Redskins, he's running all over the CFL. Then there was Gizmo Williams, star return man in the CFL, came to the NFL....POOF!!!!!

I'm sure Tebow could run all over the CFL. , he ran all over the NFL a couple of years ago. But I imagine he'd just go to show people here that he can be a traditional quarterback. I don't think that will work out, even against lesser compe ion.

If Tebow goes over there and plays like he's used to, he'll be fine. But if he expects to be the next Moon or even Flutie, I don't think he'll ever have enough success passing the ball to warrant any NFL team bringing him back.

He may as well try it, though. He could probably win enough games and he's popular enough to buy himself a few years as a starter. He better have a good position coach with him. though.

[Avante]

I'm sure Tebow could run all over the CFL. , he ran all over the NFL a couple of years ago. But I imagine he'd just go to show people here that he can be a traditional quarterback. I don't think that will work out, even against lesser compe ion.

If Tebow goes over there and plays like he's used to, he'll be fine. But if he expects to be the next Moon or even Flutie, I don't think he'll ever have enough success passing the ball to warrant any NFL team bringing him back.

He may as well try it, though. He could probably win enough games and he's popular enough to buy himself a few years as a starter. He better have a good position coach with him. though.

I'm agreeing with you, we both think he can play in the CFL.

This has nothing to do with him getting back into the NFL.

[Chinook]

I'm agreeing with you, we both think he can play in the CFL.

This has nothing to do with him getting back into the NFL.

I know we're agreeing. I'm saying that he might not end up making it in the CFL, though, if he tries to change himself too much (stops running and tries to pass 60 times a game like other CFL quarterbacks do). He'd probably try to do that, since I think he'd only go to Canada if he thought it would help him get another shot to play quarterback in the NFL. This why I feel like bringing up the NFL is relevant.

So I think Moon is also right. I think Tebow's a good enough player to make it as a quarterback in the CFL, but I don't think he's a good enough passer to make it as a pocket-passer, even in the CFL.

[Avante]

I know we're agreeing. I'm saying that he might not end up making it in the CFL, though, if he tries to change himself too much (stops running and tries to pass 60 times a game like other CFL quarterbacks do). He'd probably try to do that, since I think he'd only go to Canada if he thought it would help him get another shot to play quarterback in the NFL. This why I feel like bringing up the NFL is relevant.

So I think Moon is also right. I think Tebow's a good enough player to make it as a quarterback in the CFL, but I don't think he's a good enough passer to make it as a pocket-passer, even in the CFL.

When has he ever been a pocket passer? That has never been his game that's why he's now looking for a job. His game is the threat of the run. He's a big strong kid with decent speed. He can throw good enought vs CFL type defenses. It's pretty obvious he's not an....NFL...caliber QB, but very few are. There are how many billion people out there and only....32...starting NFL QB's. And even some of them suck.

Where people ever got this idea x-ball players actually know the game? Give me a gambler, they know the game.

[Chinook]

When has he ever been a pocket passer? That has never been his game that's why he's now looking for a job. His game is the threat of the run. He's a big strong kid with decent speed. He can throw good enought vs he's facing CFL type defenses. It's pretty obviouis he's not an....NFL...caliber QB, but very few are. There are how many billion people out there and only....32...starting NFL QB's.

Where people ever got this idea x-ball playes actually know the game? Give me gambler, they know the game.

Tebow thinks he can still be an NFL quarterback, so he's going to try to play like one. I think it's possible that he ends up screwing himself out of a productive career as an option quarterback in the CFL in an effort to become something he's not.

It almost like changing positions. Some players do it out of desperation, and they lose, like, 30 pounds and completely change their bodies. If they don't make it at that new position, they've pretty much screwed themselves over, because they no longer have the body type to play their old position.

That's what was hurting Paul Kruger his first couple of years. The Ravens wanted him to bulk up to play the 5-technique. He wasn't good at it, but he was too heavy to go back to the SLB. It took him another year to lose the weight and get back to form. He was a second-rounder. For guys who are on the fringe of being cut, they often don't get that year to switch back.

If Tebow tries to be a pocket-passer for a year in the CFL and fails, then he might not even get a chance to play as an option quarterback. That's the concern that I would have if I were he.

[Avante]

Tebow thinks he can still be an NFL quarterback, so he's going to try to play like one. I think it's possible that he ends up screwing himself out of a productive career as an option quarterback in the CFL in an effort to become something he's not.

It almost like changing positions. Some players do it out of desperation, and they lose, like, 30 pounds and completely change their bodies. If they don't make it at that new position, they've pretty much screwed themselves over, because they no longer have the body type to play their old position.

That's what was hurting Paul Kruger his first couple of years. The Ravens wanted him to bulk up to play the 5-technique. He wasn't good at it, but he was too heavy to go back to the SLB. It took him another year to lose the weight and get back to form. He was a second-rounder. For guys who are on the fringe of being cut, they often don't get that year to switch back.

If Tebow tries to be a pocket-passer for a year in the CFL and fails, then he might not even get a chance to play as an option quarterback. That's the concern that I would have if I were he.

Good stuff and I totally agree.

I'm just saying if all those..who?..can play in the CFL so can Tim Tebow who has accomplished more than any of them at all levels, so why not the CFL also?

[Chinook]

Good stuff and I totally agree.

I'm just saying if all those..who?..can play in the CFL so can Tim Tebow who has accomplished more than any of them at all levels, so why not the CFL also?

I can definitely agree with that. He has good shot in the very least.

Interesting, though, that the GM for Montreal doesn't think Tebow could be the starter, either.

“We have quarterbacks under contract,” Jim Popp told the Montreal Gazette. “We’re going to camp in a month. We’ve got a starting quarterback. I’m not out there enticing or trying to convince [Tebow] to come to Montreal because he’s [not] going to be a starting quarterback. He would be coming to Montreal to be a backup player ... to learn the game and, maybe, in the future, he’ll be able to compete for a starting job.”

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...,1245251.story

Since they own his rights, I think that decreases the odds of him making the move to Canada.

[Avante]

I can definitely agree with that. He has good shot in the very least.

Interesting, though, that the GM for Montreal doesn't think Tebow could be the starter, either.



http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...,1245251.story

Since they own his rights, I think that decreases the odds of him making the move to Canada.

What else can he say if he's smart?

[Fabbs]

Look Tebow won't make it as a QB, ok got it.
But all the shatting on Tebow is lame. Ryan has lost it as a head coach after his great start in NY.
Not Tebows fault he failed to use him properly.

He won a playoff game on an above average Denver team.
He doesn't suck that bad.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Lol @ the death rattle of Tebow's fan base..just ing die already, guys a ing scrub. Move the on

I honestly don't understand why this scrub getting cut is a major storyline. It's on par with if Tarvaris Jackson got cut from the Bills.

[Avante]

All those QB's in the CFL all have one thing in common.....they couldn't make it in the NFL. Now if all those...NFL castoffs none coming remotely close to Tim Tebow when it comes to accomplishments in HS/college/pro football...can make it at that level, so can Tim Tebow. To think a guy who has done what Tebow has done can't play in a rinkydink league full of rejects....????????????????

Do you set Tebow back there in the pocket, l no, you run an offense where....will he run or pass?....and he would be a big success. Everything (most anyway) off play action and run or pass?

Can he have a long pro football career, of course not. Forget longevity.