this series is over!! i knew that even after game 1 win which was win that is all loss because how we played... Warriors dominate us, Mark Jackson has Pop's numbers, Tim and Tony playing very mediocre, Manu suck, even in game 1 when he has been called an hero it was his worst game of the season, we playing like garbage and it's not seem gonna change, look for us to get out of the playoffs very soon by the Warriors.
I really think the Spurs can control a lot of this by getting back to their offense. The "good to great" thinking was too often dissed by taking the first trey that came. Either fast break these guys to death or make them play solid D. Spurs will bounce back.
Pop is just getting flat out out coached and by Mark Jackson no less. He must have scouted out Pop's stubbornness and is going right at it.
This is the playoffs just play your best players and line up, this mad scientist crap! Going small to try to match up with the Warrior's "GAME" is plain stupid. I's like putting a gazzelle in a cage of lions.
Was Pop just teasing us with the finally asked for line up of Splitter and Duncan playing together all season long? Spur's front court should kill this team!
Someone posted here earlier that this is turning into a repeat of the Mavs vr Warriors 07 and you know what? I think they might be right.
Another series on Pop's head...
Last edited by Chomag; 05-09-2013 at 07:02 AM.
Exactly what I'm saying all day. We had the best team assist but we were not sharing the last two games. I hope it was just Duncan and Splitter not 100%, but still this is the playoffs. Suck it up and play. And I would really like us to attack the rim and make this grueling match. Check, shove and hard pick Curry. This is the playoffs. Go Spurs Go!
I don't think Pop's being outcoached at all. They're simply younger, faster and more athletic than us.
I completely and totally agree with you. I will honestly be surprised if the Spurs win another game in this series. The Warriors look hungrier, better prepared, more talented and so on.
Agreed.
But if the Spurs go out with a whimper in this series, how much money did Tiago's ankle sprain cost him?
He's gone from hot up-and-coming young big man (about to get a big payday) to a guy who hasn't really contributed in any of his three postseasons. Of course, that isn't his fault -- injuries and lack of playing time are the culprits. Still, you have to wonder how much this could cost him.
I still believe in Splitter and I'd love to see him wreak some havoc on that GS interior Achilles heel.
I would put KL on Klay and let Curry get his.
I would love to see Lee back in to add a slower player.
The change of pace and the quickness they get their jump shots off is amazing. Defensively they scramble around well but they do tire badly with the excessive minutes young guys are supposed to be able to take.
On an aside, Jackson actually called some appropriate time outs, something missing the first game. I think we have a huge advantage with Pop. Cojo's inability to bother either Curry or Thompson has really hurt us, Kwahi is the only guy that has been a disruption on their backcourt, D. Green has in spurts. Very thin on man power we can send at their quickness and accuracy.
i am in a quandary on if we need to slow this thing down. They are killing us with their half court offense as well as up tempo. Gonna has to trust Pop. Or hope they actually start missing a shot or two.
Incoming! ... Dialed in.
"If only Spurs made more shots and Warriors missed more shots."
Yep! I said it!
Our problem is over helping on scrubs and leaving the deadly shooters open. Live with a scrub beating you than hoping an assasin will miss.
Coundn't agree more.
When they hit a bump, their wheels will fall off. Remember what happened to us vs. OKC last year.
Now we officially have a series.
We've had a series ever since the Warriors first took a double-digit lead in Game 1 in San Antonio, in my opinion
Quick question.. Do you think the grizzlies are going to play small next rd if they play the warriors???? Then why should we?? Spurs need easy buckets on offense..warriors are too big and athletic for us to go small and be effective on offensive end
Crazy as it sounds, what do you guys think of Parker coming off the bench and starting Manu? This way Parker isn't abused by either Barnes or Thompson on one end, and he doesn't have to start the game on Curry. He defends Jack much better than those other 3, and granted Jack still hit some shots, but Parker made him work hard for them. I doubt it happens, but I think those matchups are better.
good post
the most frustrating part is that this game was much more winnable than game 1 but execution in the fourth has been horrible, manu after a good 3 made 2/3 bad decisions in a row that killed our hopes and in O we stopped to move the ball. fwiw I also thought Duncan's presence was hurting the team in the fourth.
TP and the Spurs need to find a solution, GS run their offense through him and he is spending a lot of energy trying to keep up with his opponents without a lot of success or trying to contest jumpers of taller guys, as a result his energy on O is down. He usually run all over the place starting by doing the wipers on the base line but against them he doesn't have the boost to do it. He definitely needs to step up.
Regarding physicality I agree 200%, in the third they played aggressive and D and made a lot of damage, we need more of that. They need to harass Curry and Spurs need to put an end to the layup party, if they want some layup they will have to think they will end falling hard on the floor.
I also agree with the ones saying don't try to outplay them on their strengths we are going to loose, they have better small line ups and they are better at pushing the ball. I'd prefer loose this round by going big and slowing down the pace at least we give us a chance than trying to run faster than them.
I remember "small ball" against Dallas. That didn't work either. Why play into the other teams strengths? No better small ball team out there than GS. Slow 'em down...don't make the same mistake we did against Dallas.
That being said, this is the problem. Their Superstars are young and energetic. Our Superstars are older and slower. When our Superstars were young and energetic, we did to other teams...what GS is doing to us.
I was suggesting the same thing on another thread.
So you can pair up Green on Jack with the second unit and let Parker Score his during those stretches.
The problem is that GS plays their starters about 40 mins a game which will make the move almost pointless.
That's the same problem I thought about, but even if we're able to do it start the game and 2nd half to maybe prevent some of those easy looks they were getting, it might help keep the fans from going nuts, and keep us in the game, rather than dig ourselves in a huge hole.
Thanks timvp.
I lost my confidence on the team but not hope
I remember back in a days when the spurs got demolished by the Suns !
All in all Spurs are in deep . And they need to realize this is for real. Warriors are way better team then they expected. Much more difficult matchup then the Lakers. Got damn level up your intensity or go fishing.
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At the end spurs gave up totally. No guts whatsoever
This is the fourth season in a row that opposing teams have been torching the Spurs from the perimeter, and Spurs fans have been calling it a fluke. No, it's not a fluke. It's that the Spurs are a ty perimeter defensive team in the playoffs. Klay Thompson was in his own zip code on most of those first-half shots. Any decent shooter who doesn't choke is going to get in a rhythm and hit those shots.
Defending Golden State is not that complicated; they aren't really built for the postseason. Basically just don't give them a whole bunch of wide-open looks from 3 and you'll keep them under control. But if they get enough of a stretch of open shots to get into rhythm, then they'll start hitting the contested ones too. Memphis certainly will be able to slow down GS, and OKC probably has enough defensive chops to get it done too. That the Spurs can't get it done has nothing to do with Curry and Thompson playing the most superest awesomest any backcourt has ever played in the histories of times like timvp claims. The common factor in all these "fluky" great shooting performances is that they come against the Spurs. The most likely inference is that the Spurs' perenially inept perimeter defense in the playoffs is the cause of the torrid shooting.
Furthermore, the Spurs' "system" is predicated on the idea that the Spurs will out-execute their opponents. In Game 1, GS was the superior team for 44 minutes but then threw it away down the stretch once Thompson fouled out. They are a young team and that happens. But SA did not have the wherewithal to go for the throat in Game 2, so GS is getting the opportunity to learn how to close out games. Down the stretch in Game 2, you saw the Spurs pressing and making bad decisions. I believe this is because mentally the Spurs know they are playing a superior team that they aren't going to beat unless they get lucky. The "system" breaks down in the playoffs because any competent coach (i.e. not a complete ing idiot like Mike D'Antoni) over the course of a series is going to be able to make adjustments to attack the weak points in the "system."
You need superior talent to win a championship. The feeling you get seeing what seems like an endless wave after wave of young talent coming in the game for Golden State isn't going away. But it's not because that talent is so overwhelming; in the next series GS won't look like world-beaters anymore, because they really aren't. It's that the Spurs just aren't that talented. The "system" delivers regular-season wins, especially early in the year while other teams are feeling themselves out and SA can capitalize on the advantage conferred by its "corporate knowledge." But eventually many, many other teams catch up with, and ultimately pass, the Spurs. The Warriors are one of them. Among teams that lost in the first round, Houston and Denver also would have beaten the Spurs. The Clippers probably wouldn't have, because Vinny Del Negro is a complete ing idiot who wouldn't have been able to make the right adjustments.
Lots of optimism on this board. The way I see it - GS has thoroughly outplayed Spurs except for the 4th quarter of game 1. Spurs are not going to win with 2 of their best players (Splitter and Diaw) together playing only 17 minutes total in a game. I hate that Pop tries to match down with them. Spurs are not going to beat them at their own game. It's madness. Hoping that Curry and Thompson won't continue to shoot like this is wishful thinking. The role players will play better in front of their own crowd. Lay the wood on them - foul hard - put them in the bonus early and hack-a-Bogut. This will get him off the court and allow Parker to penetrate. Then the offense will operate as it usually does. This iso ball won't work. Spurs were #1 in assists all season - now they have less assists than GS.
That dude from Prometheus is a pretty damn good shooter.
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