daaaaamn, student goes off on teacher| was he right or wrong?

[CuckingFunt]

En led kid throwing a temper tantrum. Shocking!

And he did so while looking like an idiot ("don't try to take credibility for teaching me junk!"). Even more shockinger!

yea he was out of line cursing at the teacher, but i applaud him for his desire to learn. bout time these lazy teachers get called out.

A desire to learn isn't typically shown by storming out of class.

Yes, the professional way to handle this would have been to pull his teacher aside

On what planet? That would have been horribly inappropriate, too. It's not a kid's place to let a teacher know they're doing their job wrong. Even if/when they are. What would have been appropriate, IF he was genuinely concerned about the teacher's methods (and I'm not even a little bit convinced he was), would have been to calmly and intelligently share his concerns with his parents and/or the principal.

[Avante]

What exactly is voodoo math?

The fact is, employers in this country want people with math skill whether or not it's directly related to the job. When you have to take higher level math it's not just your skill in those areas of math that improve, you become a much better criticial and quan ative thinker in general and appear a lot more trainable to employers. Most employers hiring for finance jobs will tell you they'd much rather hire someone with a strong background in math lacking in finance knowledge than someone with a background in finance who's weak in math. Most employers for tech jobs will tell you that training computer programmers/engineers with a weak background in math is extremely difficult. In fact a lot of companies now hire tons of math majors right out of school and invest in training them knowing that they'll easily pick everything up. The better you are at math, the easier it is to find a job in today's economy.

So what % of kids will go on to become one of those you are talking about?

[Woo Bum-kon]

Way too much time spent on total bull nobody will ever use.

I just OD'd on irony.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

So what % of kids will go on to become one of those you are talking about?

What % of kids will work in finance and/or computer related jobs? I'd say a very high percentage given the landscape of the economy. Most of them will be jobs that have fairly mundaine work with only fair pay, but they're much better jobs than what current day HS grads get.

[Avante]

I just OD'd on irony.

Dude, talk about the topic for once, ok? Nice little thread going here nobody needs your re ed ass ing it up, got it?

Don't bother responding, done~~~~~

[Avante]

What % of kids will work in finance and/or computer related jobs? I'd say a very high percentage given the landscape of the economy. Most of them will be jobs that have fairly mundaine work with only fair pay, but they're much better jobs than what current day HS grads get.

What about the kids who simply don't get it? The math is over their head. Shouldn't they be taught things we all will need to know? Not everyone is a math wiz.

[CuckingFunt]

My big complaint about current day public high school is the cirriculum needs to be modernized. Having 4 years of English classes where you learn to write long, drawn out literature analysis is counterproductive in a world where people want quick and easy information. It's totally backwards that high schools require 4 years of English and 1-2 years of math when all the jobs available in this country are technical. There should be 4 required years of math and a math curriculum integrated with basic computer programming skills and only 2 years of English required.

Also given the fat state of this country there should be mandatory 4 years of PE.

Only one or two years of required math? Has high school changed that much since I went?

And I think there should absolutely be four years of English required in high school, but I think those four years should be spent doing something more than book reports. There should be absolutely no reason for students who've made it into college to begin their first year completely ignorant of basic grammar, academic writing structure, and critical thinking skills, all three of which are SORELY lacking at the undergraduate level.

[jag]

Also given the fat state of this country there should be mandatory 4 years of PE.

With personalized workouts based on body fat%. The fatties don't get to play dodge ball. They get 30-minute HIIT sessions (guys) and spin class (girls).

[Avante]

The bottom line....

It really doesn't matter what the teacher did/didn't do it's not dealth with in that manner. The kid was in the wrong by going that route, really not debatable. You don't disrupt the class over your personal agenda.

[Blake]

Sure run by the wars, but not the battles, get more into auto mechanics, gardening, how to work on things, save the voodoo math for college.

Rofl voodoo math

I'm going out on a limb and say you mean 8th grade pre algebra

[Blake]

Only one or two years of required math? Has high school changed that much since I went?

And I think there should absolutely be four years of English required in high school, but I think those four years should be spent doing something more than book reports. There should be absolutely no reason for students who've made it into college to begin their first year completely ignorant of basic grammar, academic writing structure, and critical thinking skills, all three of which are SORELY lacking at the undergraduate level.

I think there should be more trade school programs for kids that don't care about writing structure etc.

[mrsmaalox]

Only one or two years of required math? Has high school changed that much since I went?

And I think there should absolutely be four years of English required in high school, but I think those four years should be spent doing something more than book reports. There should be absolutely no reason for students who've made it into college to begin their first year completely ignorant of basic grammar, academic writing structure, and critical thinking skills, all three of which are SORELY lacking at the undergraduate level.

My kids' school offers 3 paths to graduation (minimum, recommended, and distinguished). Minimum requires 3 years of math, the other 2 require 4 years. English language arts is the only one in which 4 years are required for each path.

[ashbeeigh]

I watched this earlier today on tumblr and all the little teenagers were like this guy's biggest fan. But what I want to know is what happened before the kid's speech? How disrespectful or non-compliant with the teacher was he? He wasn't just sitting there minding his own business doing a STAARS worksheet. There had to have been something else. Because it sounds like a lot of bs to me. He was just talking to get out of the inevitable in school suspension that came along with that monologue.

[CuckingFunt]

I think there should be more trade school programs for kids that don't care about writing structure etc.

I'm not talking about teaching high school students particularly advanced writing styles or expecting them to produce college level academic papers; I'm talking about adjusting high school curricula/requirements so that they introduce or reinforce the basics beyond just reading comprehension.

Incidentally, I'm not terribly concerned with whether or not a high school kid cares about writing structure. Just as I'm not terribly concerned with whether or not a high school kid cares about learning math and science. Part of high school is sucking it up and learning that will help you throughout life. Even kids who want to pursue a trade after high school instead of going to college should know basic grammar and have writing skills. There's not a single career choice for which it's not beneficial to be able to express yourself without sounding like an idiot.

[The Reckoning]

When you get to college it's initially such a shock to the system to have to think and question things after having gone through and gotten used to 4 years of mindless highschool busywork. High school is for the most part day care center to keep kids from robbing adults' homes in the day.

truth bomb. one of the public high schools i went to was surrounded by barbed wire fencing like a prison. i learned jack . they should incorporate more trade skills in high school or something to work with going into college. it sucks having to choose your major your junior year of uni because you had absolutely no basis for anything coming in.

and girls....damn they were nuts as . all that influx of estrogen drove them crazy. some of the decent looking ones would hang out with the loser 20+ year olds who never left town or went to college. the others would be prude as during high school then turn to complete s once they left town .

[Blake]

I'm not talking about teaching high school students particularly advanced writing styles or expecting them to produce college level academic papers; I'm talking about adjusting high school curricula/requirements so that they introduce or reinforce the basics beyond just reading comprehension.

Incidentally, I'm not terribly concerned with whether or not a high school kid cares about writing structure. Just as I'm not terribly concerned with whether or not a high school kid cares about learning math and science. Part of high school is sucking it up and learning that will help you throughout life. Even kids who want to pursue a trade after high school instead of going to college should know basic grammar and have writing skills. There's not a single career choice for which it's not beneficial to be able to express yourself without sounding like an idiot.

I don't want to force it on them. I actually think kids should be allowed to graduate at grade 10, but offer trade school or 11&12 for those who want/need it.

[Trainwreck2100]

I tutor math at a local college people can't add fractions, your arguments are invalid

[baseline bum]

I tutor math at a local college people can't add fractions, your arguments are invalid

Fractions are a junior level course at UTSA tbh; can't expect their freshmen and sop res to be working too far ahead.

[baseline bum]

dp

[FkLA]

Why is he getting kicked out? If Im understanding it correct, the teacher went off at students for not getting the work and student said this in response. Apparently the teacher has referred to the job as just her paycheck as well. Based on that info and unless something comes up about the students character Im siding with the student on this one tbh.

[FkLA]

at privileged white boys talking about how high school students should be responsible for their own education. Grow up in a family and an area where education isnt a priority, then tell me that good teachers dont make a difference...you cant expect some of these students in poor situations to be excited to learn by putting a teacher that doesnt give a in the same classroom.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

at privileged white boys talking about how high school students should be responsible for their own education. Grow up in a family and an area where education isnt a priority, then tell me that good teachers dont make a difference...you cant expect some of these students in poor situations to be excited to learn by putting a teacher that doesnt give a in the same classroom.

Well yeah it's not the teacher's fault their parents are too busy smoking crack to tell them how important an education is.

[tlongII]

Not enough context to make a call but I agree with the kid's objectives.

[Avante]

The little should get kicked out, send a message that that sort of behavior will not be tolerated. Let him get away with it and it's just a matter of time until he pulls that again, maybe this time towards somebody who isn't some lady teacher.

[Latarian Milton]

as much as i hate the new generation of hooliganic mother ers, some teachers are also downright terrible in recent years tbh, particular those female teachers. in fact most male teachers are fine and i don't have no problem with them, while some female teachers (the majority of team actually) often get dressed like es in front of the class flirting to those students like the students give two s what an ass their teacher has. all es no matter educated or not should be confined in the kitchen because that's the only right work place for them imho