Nando de say it aint so

[tesseractive]

The WCF is the perfect time to call Pop out.

Well, if we're lucky, maybe he can complain about how bad Pop is next month at a river parade.

[Mugen]

Not his fault Pop took til the 1st round to make up his mind. That said, he needs to keep his mouth shut until they're out of the playoffs.

He'll have plenty of opportunity next season with the likely departure of Mills/Neal combined with Manu's annual injury vacation tbh.

I liked Nando as the backup for much of the season but have been real impressed with CoJo. Joseph is the ideal backup for Parker if he continues to progress, which i think he will. Nando is a great 5th guard to have on the rotation due to his size/playmaking so I hope he comes back in 2013-14.

[ChumpDumper]

I'd be fine with that, if he had really won the spot...

He did with defense. They both honestly sucked on offense the last month of the regular season.

[K-State Spur]

I'm thinking maybe I should post the stats of Beno Udrih and Tony Parker from when they faced off?

Guessing that wasn't in the playoffs since a team playing Udrih at PG hasn't made the playoffs other than the Spurs.

I think Lindsey Hunter could still prevent him from crossing half court even now.

[DMC]

He probably thought since he was talking to a French media source, it wouldn't get back to the American media. Wrong dude. Wrong..

Yeah because he's never seen any French interviews of Tony in the US.

Seriously? Do you think he doesn't know this already? Of course he does, but why should he care? These guys are contractors, they have to think of their futures and by not being out there he's not building his wealth for the future. Some team will pick him up, you can rot on the bench in SA if you're not top 2 PG.

[Bill_Brasky]

Pop awarded defense. How can you not love that?

[Chinook]

Nobody would be dumb enough to do that. At that present time, he wasn't even good enough to play in the tiest leagues in Europe, so he needed somewhere to showcase himself. De Colo could go back to Europe and start for pretty much any team he wants and get paid more doing it. That's the difference.

Then he should go back there. He's not better than Joseph here until he gets an NBA game.

He was more ready than Joseph, that's for certain. Up until these playoffs, Joseph hadn't shown a thing to suggest he was an NBA player. I think everyone has been pleasantly surprised with his contribution this playoffs.

Joseph was a better starter than De Colo was, too. Pop gave them both a good bit of run toward the end of the season, and Joseph just did a better job.

I'd hardly call a player in his 2nd year in the NBA, who didn't sniff the floor last season, a veteran.

Well too bad for your interpretation. Joseph has a year to learn the system and more importantly, accept and fulfill the role the Spurs had in mind for him. That instantly put him above De Colo in the pecking order, and Nando made it worse by being inflexible. Also you didn't seem to have a problem glossing over all the ways in which Joseph is better than De Colo.

[K-State Spur]

My point is that he destroyed an all-star in a head-to-head matchup. If he's capable of doing that, why in the is he behind Jacque Vaughn(LMFAO) on a depth chart?

Because Vaughn could dribble the ball past halfcourt against a decent defender?

[DMC]

Then why is it that De Colo was ahead of him in the rotation to START the year?

Pop was resting him for the playoffs.

[tesseractive]

CJ 3 FG%: Career: .250 This season: .286 Playoffs: .222

De Colo 3 FG%: .378

Here's a statistic for you:

2012-2013 regular season turnover percentage:

Tony Parker: 13.0%
Patrick Mills: 13.5%
Cory Joseph: 15.0%
Nando De Colo: 23.7%

Any questions?

[Boomersgold]

seriously. like patty. cojo is playing better than you. the end.

Unlike De Colo though, Patty's always upbeat, and is always cheering for the success of his teammates. De Colo 's visibly depressed every time he loses his spot as the backup.

[manufan10]

Here's a statistic for you:

2012-2013 regular season turnover percentage:

Tony Parker: 13.0%
Patrick Mills: 13.5%
Cory Joseph: 15.0%
Nando De Colo: 23.7%

Any questions?

Arguing with the wrong person, tbh.. Charlie Sheen asked for the 3 FG% stats, and I posted them. I think Cory Joseph has proven he deserves the spot, and I've argued that point here, imo fwiw tbh.

[tesseractive]

Arguing with the wrong person, tbh.. Charlie Sheen asked for the 3 FG% stats, and I posted them. I think Cory Joseph has proven he deserves the spot, and I've argued that point here, imo fwiw tbh.

Sorry, my bad.

[Boomersgold]

I'd be saying the same if I was an overall player like De Colo and a specialist is taking my place. De Colo eats Joseph alive, talent wise. That said, Joseph has been pleasantly surprising in these playoffs.

But moping about your lack of playing time doesn't really do anything to help anyone; it certainly won't make Pop reconsider DC's minutes (or lack thereof), and it certainly doesn't help the team's chemistry. Remember Stephen Jackson?

Also, De Colo, himself, is a specialist in the area of passing. He doesn't produce anything on the offensive end, aside from a few wide open jumpers, and his defense is pretty average. In fact, all three of our backup point guards are specialists. Patty's a scorer, De Colo's a passer and Joseph's an above average defender. De Colo has no real reason to feel frustrated about Joseph being put ahead of him on the depth chart.

[Juggity]

Cory Joseph has proven himself at this point. His energy on defense has made him an asset. De Colo is capable of good passing and solid offensive play, but Cory's a better 2 way player right now, and in the playoffs that's what the spurs need from the bench.

[ChumpDumper]

My point is that he destroyed an all-star in a head-to-head matchup. If he's capable of doing that, why in the is he behind Jacque Vaughn(LMFAO) on a depth chart?

Since you're into stats, look up Beno's playoff stats.

[hooperflash]

Nando can go grub on crawfish and get mani pedis with SJAX for all I care.

[Johnny RIngo]

Beno 2.0

He sucked in Europe, never impressed me at all anytime I was able to watch the French NT, and was a scrub in the NBA this year. Waste of the Spurs time and, more importantly, a waste of a roster spot. Parker was injured for a substantial amount of time - DeColo had a chance to prove himself and he blew it. He can go himself.

[Bruno]

It isn't only a Joseph vs. De Colo issue. De Colo has been put in a suit while, Mills, a player that has been behind him in the rotation for month, is on the active roster. There is also Neal playing a lot while he truly sucks and an out of shape TMac being active.

I'm not saying these choices aren't the right ones. It's just that they aren't obvious and Pop should definitively spend a minute explaining to De Colo while he is inactive, even more that De Colo is known for his whining. That some basic coaching and I'm damn surprised Pop hasn't done that.

[ChumpDumper]

What a player does in 5 minutes a game doesn't hold weight with me. What a player does over their career, well, that holds a little bit more.

So you you admit really don't care about playoff performance at all.

OK, not a problem. Stop watching until the next regular season then, the rest of us care.

[iminol]

Nando De Colo @NandoDeColo 2min
San Antonio -> Memphis



via Paris?

[K-State Spur]

What a player does in 5 minutes a game doesn't hold weight with me. What a player does over their career, well, that holds a little bit more.

40 career playoff 3 pt attempts is decent sample size.

He'd have more, but apparently playing Beno regular minutes doesn't = automatic playoff qualification.

[tesseractive]

What a player does in 5 minutes a game doesn't hold weight with me. What a player does over their career, well, that holds a little bit more.

Beno was a ty-ass scrub who had the potential to be more, but he was lazy and never committed himself enough to ever do anything more than be a decent player on a ty team or a weak player on a decent team. JV sucked, but at least he was fully committed to the team.

[ChumpDumper]

It isn't only a Joseph vs. De Colo issue. De Colo has been put in a suit while, Mills, a player that has been behind him in the rotation for month, is on the active roster. There is also Neal playing a lot while he truly sucks and an out of shape TMac being active.

I'm not saying these choices aren't the right ones. It's just that they aren't obvious and Pop should definitively spend a minute explaining to De Colo while he is inactive, even more that De Colo is known for his whining. That some basic coaching and I'm damn surprised Pop hasn't done that.

Could be that his whining caused him to be written off. I'll look for an offseason trade.

[wildcardX]

I can understand a person being upset about not getting playing time but you don't go crying about it to the media. You suck it up and work harder, it's the NBA not Europe. The best of the best( can I say there's no points for second place). Nando just shut up, work on your game, and get better.