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    "is forced to continue playing for a team he might not want to."

    a contract is a contract. nobody, owner or player, is forced to sign a contract.

    If players were able to cancel contracts becaause "I don't like it here", then owners would be able to cancel contracts "because we think you are an overpaid, lazy cancreous head".

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    boutons: In other sports, contracts are much more fluid.

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    "is forced to continue playing for a team he might not want to."

    a contract is a contract. nobody, owner or player, is forced to sign a contract.

    If players were able to cancel contracts becaause "I don't like it here", then owners would be able to cancel contracts "because we think you are an overpaid, lazy cancreous head".
    Fair is fair...but there is no way in that 14 million buyout is fair.

    How can you stick a buy out of greater value than the contract on the contract?

    That is unscrupulous...I don't care how try and spin it.

    And you are right...he's got no one to blame...but his agent.

    But teams often can get out of contracts under certain conditions...I'd be willing to be that it's a lot easier for that team to get out of that contract than it is for Scola to get out of it.

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    I guess if you look at it from scola's point of view back in '97 its a bit different. He's 17 yrs old about to sign a contract making more money for more years than he could ever dream. He's Argentine, and when was the last time an Argentine has ever made it to the NBA? The buyout probably wasn't a big deal to him then.

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    Luis was 17, promsing but unproven, looking at a lot of money and 10 years of it, easy to get screwed. Where were his parents, and his lawyer as a 2nd opinion? This must be an example why minors can't enter into contracts.

    I wonder if Luis' agent gets a %-age of any buyout just as he gets a %-age of the contract value.

    Oh, well, Luis-as-Spur is screwed.

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    How much does he make under that contract?

    For all we know the guy could be making 10 grand a year.

    How much were 17 year olds from economically distraught countries being paid to play in Europe back in 1997?

    Do the Euro leagues even have a pay scale? Did they then?

    I know they make good money now...but I don't think everyone made good money back in 1997, especially 17 year olds working on 10 year contracts.

    But I could be way off on that...

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    he probably is making less than 100 grand a year.

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    Do the Euro leagues even have a pay scale? Did they then?
    No and No

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    Thanks velik__m....do you have an estimate of how much he makes?

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    Have no idea

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    I don;t lie and fluff myself up liek some people I don't have the knowledge of all te players in the draft to tell you who was worth drafting. No benfit of flyinf over to china or watching video of everyone

    simple put I am ignorant on who they could chooose

    but drafting a player with a 14 mill buyout that is a backup
    its not liek drafting jordan or larry bird that where paying 14 mil is still worth it
    we have wait this long and we will have to wait a long time,\

    all those people saying oberto is old now well scola wouldn't be getting younger
    Someone please take this Pakistani out back & silence him!

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    Scola's contract goes for two more years. He will be 27, not 30.

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    Trust POP

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    About buyouts

    Last year Chapu Nocioni left TAU to play with Chicago Bulls, and the TAU's President told to everyone that Chapu had to pay every f...g euro of his buyout; in his speach he said that TAU invested a lot of money recruiting and training young players, he added that under no circunstances TAU will give up their stars without receiving money.

    Besides that, u$s 14.5 M??? Jesus ... I'd like kill his agent, how in the world you could allow that?? amazing.

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    So it will be 2 more years until Scola is here?

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    I'm sure that Scola makes more then 100k a year. He's probably close to $1 million or so. Sarunas Jasikevicius, I think was the highest paid European player last season with about $1.5 million a year.

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    FYI: Oberto's contract will start at $2.265 mil. So the Spurs should have about $2.735 mil of the MLE left to offer someone else a deal.

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    another reserve big man to occupy the role Tony Massenburg and Kevin Willis held previously.

    Damn, I guess I missed it, but they definitly let Tony Massenburg go?

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    $14.5M? Wow!

    You sign a contract. That's the way it goes. Scola would certainly do better in the NBA, but he's doing pretty well now.

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    If I were Scola, I'd piss all over that team next year. I'd be pissed as . That's straight up bondage and it's not right. , even the first American Idol contracts were worse and Kelly Clarkson got out of hers...
    On the other hand, Tau gave Scola a chance when he was 17. A contract is a contract. Scola signed it willingly back then. Tau probably signed dozens of these contracts, and Scola is one of the rare ones that developed and helped them, the risks are high, and now the returns are in, no way am I going to give it away.
    Also, if Scola tanked the season to try and get out of the contract, I would be weary of his at ude.

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    Well, those are the breaks.

    But Oberto should make up for some, if not all, of what they lost in not being able to bring over Scola.

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    im pissed

    scola should throw the next season away just like VC, so tau can released its very common in soccer in euro anyway...

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    I'm all late in posting but I got here ( library) as fast as I could. So, Oberto! What a great addition to our team! How thrilled must Gino and Argentina be!

    So long as this trade does not cost me my Rasho, I think it is great.


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    im pissed

    scola should throw the next season away just like VC
    Why? I think that a lot of people lost respect for VC for doing that. Scola is still unproved in the NBA. If he wants to make it over here, it wouldn't be in his best interest to cop at ude and throw the season away.

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    I think he'd have a great shot in arbitration.

    If a first round contract buyout is only worth 2.2 million, how can Tau rationalize asking 14 million for the last pick in the second round (an objectively "worse round" to get drafted)?

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