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Take Malik off that list. The Spurs made him a lot more money than he ever deserved.
In POP (and RC) I trust.
For all of you that are feeling bad for Scola, you need to realize that this is a business. Maybe the Spurs did do Scola wrong, but I won't give two damns when I'm celebrating back to back next spring. If Scola was everything the media and us made him out to be he would be playing with the Spurs summer league team right now. The Spurs will make a move with him this summer and it WILL work out in the Spurs favor. It's easy as that.
Take Malik off that list. The Spurs made him a lot more money than he ever deserved.
2 losers that didn't mean .Anderson, Derek.
Del Negro, Vinny
Good riddance.
Stop defending those faces Bryant.
They also back stabbed Kerr and Elliot.
Assuming the Spurs are intent on bringing Scola over in the future...
Oberto is 30 and fills a greater need (once Rasho or Nazr is moved or lost) at the 5 than Scola does at the 4 for the upcoming year. Oberto is also 30 and this is probably the last time he could be brought over without being locked up long term in Europe. So the Spurs opt to go with Oberto now and wait on Scola. But since the hype about Scola has gotten out, they needed a good cover story. What better than being a bit erroneous about the size of the buyout?
Scola doesn't go anywhere in the NBA that the Spurs don't want him to go. He has to deal with them. So they can keep him or if they think he's overrated, they move him and perhaps another team will find out the buyout issue wasn't that great.
Think about it, the Spurs will probably want Scola's rights to be a valuable trade asset. You don't want teams thinking that the Spurs brought in Oberto because they rated him higher than Scola. So you concoct a bull rumor about the buyout as your cover story.
He wanted to play for the Spurs. They are ing him around because they wanted Oberto in here first.
I admit I don't remember the Del Negro deal, but big deal. He was turned loose and knocked around the league just fine.Anderson, Derek.
Del Negro, Vinny.
Robinson, David.
Rose, Malik.
How in the world did they mistreat Rose?
Didn't mistreat Derek Anderson, either. The guy was a little weenie and demanded a trade himself. Not clear what you mean by this.
The only questionable one is the David Robinson deal, and I don't think the history kept on this on Spurs message board is correct. Yes, there was a deft and questionable movement toward acquiring Webber, and yes, it looks tremendously fishy in its treatment of Robinson. But DRob quickly forgave and played well with the team from then on. The only reason there's distance between Robinson and the team now is because he's not really a basketball guy, in the end.
They turned him into a malcontent and whipping boy because of that contract.
I don't think Scola plays a second in the Silver and Black. Tough to play for a franchise that you feel "betrayed" you. Marcus is 100% right. Scola will be traded this summer when his fetching price will be at its highest. Spurs FO is the s.
They wanted Oberto first???? Oh boy! Oberto!
Trading a player is not backstabbing, no matter how unexpected it may be. Ruining a guy's chance of playing in the NBA for the time being and/or misrepresenting him to the national and local media... that's backstabbing.They also back stabbed Kerr and Elliot.
How have the Spurs backstabbed Scola? By helping keep his Hype up by not admitting they just like Oberto better?
See above. The "offer" they made to him was laughable. But they did it knowing full well he could get something better elsewhere. Pop certainly played the part and made it look as though DA was the one being unreasonable, when clearly they didn't want him back and wanted him to go out and find the Spurs a sign and trade deal.
DA looks like a , the Spurs get something back for him and something that suited their long term aims, which was cap flexibility in the 2003 offseason.
The Spurs offered him a vet minimum contract in 2001 and then forced him to go public with a threat to play elsewhere (NY or Houston) in order to drum up support for the Spurs to re-sign him while they courted Webber. Since DRob is close to God in San Antonio that one backfired on the Spurs a little bit.The only questionable one is the David Robinson deal, and I don't think the history kept on this on Spurs message board is correct. Yes, there was a deft and questionable movement toward acquiring Webber, and yes, it looks tremendously fishy in its treatment of Robinson. But DRob quickly forgave and played well with the team from then on. The only reason there's distance between Robinson and the team now is because he's not really a basketball guy, in the end.
I still wonder if any other teams offered Oberto more money. Maybe he just wanted to play for the SPurs, alongside Manu.
Wrong...he did not want to play for the Spurs...he never wanted to play for the Spurs...not from the time he was drafted. He's ed about nearly every time I have seen him interviewed.
And I'll be damned if I am willing to let my team get ed up appeasing a hot tempered Argentinian with an overinflated opinion of himself...
And I gurantee you that if the Spurs are having second thoughts about Scola...one of the major reasons is his mouth.
You just don't know what the you are talking about...you need to go look at what Scola said the night he was drafted, you need to look at what he said during the Olympics last year...and you need to look at what this guy thinks his reaction will be. I think this guy is right...
If he doesn't want to be a Spur then him.
There are two types of Argentinians I have noticed...the articulate, smart and charismatic team players who know not to say stupid stuff...and the hot tempered divisive ones that spout off as rookies that haven't done .
I have already made up my mind which one Scola is and I totally understand why the Spurs have doubts about him...
Vaya Con Dios Cabeza Caliente
would have really hit the fan if DRob didn't end his career with the Spurs.
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In re the DA removal...
The Spurs were offering something like $42 million over 6 years, but only $28 mil or so was guaranteed. I believe the 6th year was non-guaranteed and the 5th year was partially guaranteed. It was pretty ridiculous, considering that most deals in the NBA are usually fully guaranteed over the life of the contract. But, the Spurs were able to go to the public and claim that they were offering him $42 million and that wasn't enough for that greedy little bas .
San Antonio bought that story, hook, line and sinker.
As I read everyone’s comments on this thread here are the things that cross my mind. See if you can tell which ones have just a pinch of sarcasm.
1) Is Johnny Ludden the voice of the Spurs? Nowhere in the article does it say that the SPURS told him the buyout was 14.5 million. All it says is that was the original agreement. It does not say what his source was. Once a source is sighted that is a Spur or a Spurs official comes out and says it will I believe that came from a Spurs official.
2) Poor Luis Scola for agreeing to sign a 10 year contract with TAU with either a 14.5 million or 3.2 buyout clause. I cannot believe a team would force him at gunpoint to do something like that... just horrible.
3) Poor Spurs for wasting such a valuable pick as the 3rd to the LAST pick in the draft. I feel that any pick at that level should be an All Star or they might as well have used it on a box of Tic Tacs.
4) Oberto is better than Scola because he either cost 3.2 or 14.5 million less than Scola with the odds of their contribution to the team being quite similar.
whottt on this topic is really annoying. I wish he'd shut his hate.
Marcus Bryant... how exactly have you proven the Spurs FO is this underhanded, scheming, manipulative, boiler room den of corruption? I see them 1) not wanting to resign DA (big ing deal). And 2) being really weird and mean with the Robinson situation. I grant the second. But: 1) Robinson clearly was fine with it thereafter; 2) the league generally views the team as unequalled in personel treatment. In all this, the Scola situation looks really bad.
Drob's comments and reactions were justified as the franchise savior...Scola's aren't.
Spurs fans wanted Drob kept here and signed even if he spent all year on the DL and never played another game for us...DRob hard earned it and the Spurs were out of line.
They most definitely are not out of line on this one.
You don't dictate where you get drafted or when and how the team should bring you over...and if they tell you you need to work on your rebounding to make it in the NBA, you shut the up about it and work on your rebounding...especially if the team telling you that has one of the smartest FO's in the NBA and has won 2 les.
I definitely stand with the Spurs 100% on this one as does anyone who has read Scola's comments since the Spurs drafted him.
I've listened to this guy enough...trade his ass ASAP.
I don't want him on my team...and all you Scola fans can get the off and go follow him to his new team.
That my friend would characterize the human race.There are two types of Argentinian's I have noticed...the articulate, smart and charismatic team players who know not to say stupid stuff...and the hot tempered divisive ones...
Where is Robert Stack when you need him?
Look at how they operate. They are not squeaky clean.
Effectiveness is another story. I'm glad for the most part with their decisionmaking, but let's not pretend that they have always been on the up and up publicly or with certain players.
well give this motherfu*ker a phD in anthropolgy. he's figured out the argentinian psyche simply by watching tv interviews of basketball players.
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