Why would Spurs amnesty Bonner after not waiving him?

[deibero]

Maybe we're KEEPING him? Ever thought of that?

no man, all good...

[ChumpDumper]

Convinced of what? That that agreement HAS been struck? You shouldn't be, since we have no reason to believe it has. But if you're not convinced it could happen and that it would be a pretty sound (or at least net-neutral) financial decision, I don't think you're looking at it from his perspective. Bonner is one of the best shooters in the NBA. He will get another contract, and probably a pretty substantial one ($10M/3 easily). Even a minimum deal is $1.4 Million for someone with his experience. If the team guaranteed him $600k more, then he'd make $3 Million. Also, if he gets claimed on amnestied waivers, he'd get all $4 Million guaranteed.

It's 11 days in real life, but it's actually just a blink of an eye for the off-season. We're talking about the Spurs amnestying Bonner before the first free agent inks a contract. There will be plenty of money left over.

So yeah, no one's saying that Bonner has agreed to this. But we are saying that he would really not be taking a gamble by agreeing to the extension. I don't know if anyone has agreed to this very thing before, since the amnesty waivers are such a new thing. But players tweak their contracts to help their teams out all the time.

Then give me an example of one doing this.

[cjw]

You're right about the dates. But it's still not a relevant situation to Bonner. Dyess wanted to retire, but the Spurs wanted him to play one more year. All Dyess did was agree to let the Spurs give him more time to think about it. Completely different situation than the Spurs asking Bonner to give them more time to decide whether or not to make a decision that could cost him $3 million.

I don't think it ends up costing him $3 million. If he's amnestied, he will make the whole $3.9 million (pay split will depend on if someone else stakes a claim on him). If he's cut for $1 million, he will still get signed to at least the vet's minimum of $1.2 million for someone with 9 years experience. More likely he's out about a million bucks, if anything at all ... heck, Steve Novak got paid $4 million last year and couldn't sniff the court in the playoffs.

[coyotes_geek]

It doesn't cost Bonner anything. If amnestied, at worst he either would get a little bonus plus a new deal from someone else or get his full deal. The conversation wouldn't be, "We don't know if we want to keep you, so can you extend your deadline?" It would be, "We're going to get rid of you. Can we rent your contract for a couple hundred thousand bucks?"

Bonner would have the choice of accepting and getting at least $2.4 Million this season (most likely in the $3 Million+ range or even his whole contract if someone picks him up off waivers) or declining and getting $2.4 Million with no real chance of getting more. Monetarily, it would be in his best interest, unless he thought he'd be a top free agent and would get a lot more money if he were available earlier in the process. He wouldn't be, so it would have been a good deal.

Getting amnestied has nothing to do with it. The financial risk to Bonner was getting cut before his deal became fully guaranteed. Asking Bonner to agree to move his full-guarantee date back is just asking him to agree to give the Spurs more time to make a decision that could only impact him negatively. If the Spurs are going to cut him, a possibility which he immediately becomes incredibly concerned about if the Spurs approach him asking him to move back his full-guarantee date, the later it happens the worse it is for him. We're already seeing teams come to agreements with guys in Bonner's salary range. There's no incentive for Bonner to agree to put himself in a situation like that. If he did, he's pretty much the most loyal Spur ever.

[coyotes_geek]

I don't think it ends up costing him $3 million. If he's amnestied, he will make the whole $3.9 million (pay split will depend on if someone else stakes a claim on him). If he's cut for $1 million, he will still get signed to at least the vet's minimum of $1.2 million for someone with 9 years experience. More likely he's out about a million bucks, if anything at all ... heck, Steve Novak got paid $4 million last year and couldn't sniff the court in the playoffs.

Bonner drives a Pontiac Grand Prix. I'm positive he thinks $1 million dollars is a lot of money.

[TheGoldStandard]

Bonner is not going to be cut or amnestied.. The guy will be a spur forever, he'll take a front office job or coaching job when he hangs it up, shoot he might even be Pop's successor. He'll groom him for the job.