Indiana's offseason

[dallasmaverickslose]

come talk to me when you re ed chimp brain can piece together legit bball discussion, gnsf. until then get back to oiling up that butthole for me

You are easily the stupidest and most obnoxious troll on this website. You simply blew past the compe ion.
Congrats, numbnuts!

[TE]

Not really, tbh

Oh really? Why not?

[dallasmaverickslose]

Oh really? Why not?

Because I don't consider somebody trying to be a tough guy while hiding behind a computer screen as "bullying scrubs in the paint."

[TE]

Because I don't consider somebody trying to be a tough guy while hiding behind a computer screen as "bullying scrubs in the paint."

so your ignoring T_Parks initial comment to the OP? Way to go "numbnuts"

[TE]

You are easily the stupidest and most obnoxious troll on this website. You simply blew past the compe ion.
Congrats, numbnuts!

Lookit this tough guy!

[dallasmaverickslose]

Lookit this tough guy!

The big difference is I don't go on a massive cursing storm making myself look like a wanna be thug

[dallasmaverickslose]

so your ignoring T_Parks initial comment to the OP? Way to go "numbnuts"

How about you go address him, then?

[TE]

The big difference is I don't go on a massive cursing storm making myself look like a wanna be thug

Bbbbbut you're still acting like a tough guy on the internet! Something you claim people do when you get your feelings hurt...

[TE]

How about you go address him, then?

It was addressed but not by me. You should read the post again.

[dallasmaverickslose]

It was addressed but not by me. You should read the post again.

Oh I see, you just pick and choose then? And from what I'm gathering, you don't have a problem with I termed tough guys if they share your views. Hypocritical much?

[dallasmaverickslose]

Bbbbbut you're still acting like a tough guy on the internet! Something you claim people do when you get your feelings hurt...

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

[TE]

What exactly are you trying to accomplish?

I'm exposing you for being a hypocrite. Yesterday I shat all over you and got your feelings hurt to which you started whining that I was a tough guy . Today you hypocritically tried acting a tough guy (which you also suck at).

it's been a two-day baptism in fire for you, grey

[Robz4000]

TE making his rounds tbh, nothing to see here folks!

[dallasmaverickslose]

I'm exposing you for being a hypocrite. Yesterday I shat all over you and got your feelings hurt to which you started whining that I was a tough guy . Today you hypocritically tried acting a tough guy (which you also suck at).

it's been a two-day baptism in fire for you, grey

Now I now for sure you're being a troll

[K-State Spur]

What are you talking about? Until proven otherwise, backup PG is a major weakness and because it is, Parker is going to continue to have to run himself ragged all regular season to get this team a top few seed and then he's going to have to do it for four rounds (with increased minutes, no less), all while avoiding getting banged up. If he does, they're screwed, since they probably don't have someone good enough to play at that level period and definitely don't for more than 8-10 minutes.

No, it's almost entirely based on hearing about them supposedly being interested in a bunch of names every off season and missing out on damn near every one, especially the ones they want most. These are just off the top of my head from recent years: Maggette, Bell, Butler, Howard, Hill, Martin, Camby, Kirilenko and in the coming days, you can add Oden.

1) Backup PG is not a "major" weakness. We got through the regular season fine with CoJo & Nando. All while managing to to play Parker less than 33 mpg & posting a winning record in the 16 games he missed. Then Joseph provided solid, if unspectacular play throughout the playoffs - until game 4 of the Finals (bear in mind that was after helping the offense hold serve with Parker out in the second half of game 3). Both of those players would figure to improve with another year's experience.

That said, would I love upgrading at backup PG to a guy we can trust for all 7 games in an NBA Finals. Absolutely - that series that just finished was so close that I think TJ Ford could have swung it our way if not for terrible luck. But there's a difference between looking to upgrade and addressing a "major" weakness.

2) You can roll off an impressive list of misses for literally every team in the league. Nobody gets 100% of the guys they want - not even LA & MIA. And most of the guys took more money elsewhere.

[TD 21]

1) Backup PG is not a "major" weakness. We got through the regular season fine with CoJo & Nando. All while managing to to play Parker less than 33 mpg & posting a winning record in the 16 games he missed. Then Joseph provided solid, if unspectacular play throughout the playoffs - until game 4 of the Finals (bear in mind that was after helping the offense hold serve with Parker out in the second half of game 3). Both of those players would figure to improve with another year's experience.

That said, would I love upgrading at backup PG to a guy we can trust for all 7 games in an NBA Finals. Absolutely - that series that just finished was so close that I think TJ Ford could have swung it our way if not for terrible luck. But there's a difference between looking to upgrade and addressing a "major" weakness.

2) You can roll off an impressive list of misses for literally every team in the league. Nobody gets 100% of the guys they want - not even LA & MIA. And most of the guys took more money elsewhere.

1) It is a major weakness, which is why Pop never settled on one until game one of the playoffs. And it's not like he went with Joseph because he thought he earned it (otherwise he'd have been going with him down the stretch of the regular season), it was more like he saw him as the lesser of two evils.

It's pretty difficult to look bad when you rarely play more than 3 minutes at a time and you literally have zero offensive responsibility, outside of advancing the ball. Unfortunately, this comes off as my relentlessly ripping the guy and I don't mean to, because I also think he played about as well as could be expected given the cir stances . . . but there's a difference between playing well given the cir stances and playing well period.

2) Sure, but no contender has as consistently poor a record as the Spurs. The Spurs, almost always, get spurned.

[xmas1997]

1) It is a major weakness, which is why Pop never settled on one until game one of the playoffs. And it's not like he went with Joseph because he thought he earned it (otherwise he'd have been going with him down the stretch of the regular season), it was more like he saw him as the lesser of two evils.

It's pretty difficult to look bad when you rarely play more than 3 minutes at a time and you literally have zero offensive responsibility, outside of advancing the ball. Unfortunately, this comes off as my relentlessly ripping the guy and I don't mean to, because I also think he played about as well as could be expected given the cir stances . . . but there's a difference between playing well given the cir stances and playing well period.

2) Sure, but no contender has as consistently poor a record as the Spurs. The Spurs, almost always, get spurned.

I think I agree with you on both points, that is if I understood them correctly.
My hope is that Cojo gets a lot more work this year so that he has the confidence he needs going into the playoffs, and more importantly the confidence of Pop, IF they make the playoffs that is. Nothing is a given especially when it comes to avoiding injuries.

[K-State Spur]

1) It is a major weakness, which is why Pop never settled on one until game one of the playoffs. And it's not like he went with Joseph because he thought he earned it (otherwise he'd have been going with him down the stretch of the regular season), it was more like he saw him as the lesser of two evils.

It's pretty difficult to look bad when you rarely play more than 3 minutes at a time and you literally have zero offensive responsibility, outside of advancing the ball. Unfortunately, this comes off as my relentlessly ripping the guy and I don't mean to, because I also think he played about as well as could be expected given the cir stances . . . but there's a difference between playing well given the cir stances and playing well period.

2) Sure, but no contender has as consistently poor a record as the Spurs. The Spurs, almost always, get spurned.

We're not going to play the back-up PG much more than 3 minutes at a time* and/or give them much offensive responsibility - hence the reason it's not a "major" weakness. It's strictly a limited role - one that CoJo performed admirably right up until the final 4 games. For the postseason, his PER was 13.2 - for comparison, Chalmers was 11.2 & Cole was 12.4. Chalmers is a better defender at this juncture (long term, I'd take Joseph), but Cole certainly isn't.

Maybe, we're arguing semantics - but if having two roughly league average (by the numbers) backup PGs is a "major weakness", then 20+ teams have that major weakness. When it's an issue that 2/3 of the league is facing, I don't think it can be considered major.

*If we do, it's because Parker's hurt - and an injury there makes championship hopes moot regardless of who we signed to back him up.

[TD 21]

We're not going to play the back-up PG much more than 3 minutes at a time* and/or give them much offensive responsibility - hence the reason it's not a "major" weakness. It's strictly a limited role - one that CoJo performed admirably right up until the final 4 games. For the postseason, his PER was 13.2 - for comparison, Chalmers was 11.2 & Cole was 12.4. Chalmers is a better defender at this juncture (long term, I'd take Joseph), but Cole certainly isn't.

Maybe, we're arguing semantics - but if having two roughly league average (by the numbers) backup PGs is a "major weakness", then 20+ teams have that major weakness. When it's an issue that 2/3 of the league is facing, I don't think it can be considered major.

*If we do, it's because Parker's hurt - and an injury there makes championship hopes moot regardless of who we signed to back him up.

Of course Pop would prefer to be able to give Parker roughly five minute breaks in the playoffs, but he quickly discovered that, with Ginobili and Neal scuffling, that wasn't going to be practical, so he instead gave Parker two two-three minute breaks.

The PER is solid enough, but it's in such limited minutes and with such limited responsibility, that it should be taken with a grain of salt, to say the least. The same goes for Mills. The bottom line is, are either or De Colo good enough to play against the Heat or Thunder? If you're like me and believe the answer to be no, then they're not sufficient.

[Joseph Kony]

The big difference is I don't go on a massive cursing storm making myself look like a wanna be thug

butthurt got

[dallasmaverickslose]

butthurt got

Lol what a ass. This convo ended a week ago.

[Joseph Kony]

Lol what a ass. This convo ended a week ago.

doesn't change my initial statement regarding the nature of your butthurt

[dallasmaverickslose]

doesn't change my initial statement regarding the nature of your butthurt

That's nice. Nobody really cares.

[Joseph Kony]

apparently you do since you're instantly replying to my posts, got

[Joseph Kony]

lol "nobody cares" when my TE shat all over you on the previous page for being a hypocritical piece of