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    David Chancellor (WOAI) talked to Bill Duffy (Rasho's agent) today and confirmed that the Spurs are shopping him around. There was a quote from Duffy saying that it makes sense that they are looking toward Atlanta because the Hawks are in need of a center.

    Apparently is a little more than speculation that the Spurs are looking to packaging Rasho and Scola in a deal with the Hawks.

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    Rasho > Curry???

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    Rasho's insurance > Curry's insurance

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    Yes, please.

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    What kind of jumpshot does Childress have?

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    Get the deal done Spurs.

    Bring in a long athletic defensive forward that has FUTURE in the NBA.

    THe turkish shooter sounds good too.

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    Childress isn't much of a shooter yet, but he's improving. He puts in the time.

    His rebounding for a small forward is great. His defense is above average. He's athletic. I would rate him in the top 5% of small forwards that the Spurs should target.

    If Atlanta gets Joe Johnson, this trade makes a lot of sense for both sides. Even if they don't get Johnson, Marvin Williams is probably more of a small forward, meaning that Josh Smith will have to slide to shooting guard. Either way, Childress isn't likely a vital member of that team.

    Rasho + Scola for Childress + Akyol + Pick =

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    alot of rookies do not have good jumpshots

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    Rasho sitll have $6,720,000 + $7,280,000 + $7,840,000 + $8,400,000 = $30,240,000

    Al Harrington only $6,875,000 for next season

    What's the deal??

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    Rasho sitll have $6,720,000 + $7,280,000 + $7,840,000 + $8,400,000 = $30,240,000

    Al Harrington only $6,875,000 for next season

    What's the deal??
    Only the salary for next season has to be close to matching. The total of the contract doesn't matter.

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    maybe spurs do not want al harrington

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    Only the salary for next season has to be close to matching. The total of the contract doesn't matter.
    We can go a step further and say salaries don't even have to match because Atlanta is under the cap -- they could take back much more salary than they would give out -- the Spurs would receive the difference in a trade exception they could use in other deals or let expire to save some money.

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    Rasho & Scola to Atlanta for Marvin Williams.

    Give me another cold one.


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    We can go a step further and say salaries don't even have to match because Atlanta is under the cap -- they could take back much more salary than they would give out -- the Spurs would receive the difference in a trade exception they could use in other deals or let expire to save some money.
    True. So my dream deal would be...

    Rasho + Scola for Childress + Akyol + Pick + ~$3.5M Trade Exception


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    Would this hypothetical Childress-Rasho-Scola thing even be possible from a salary cap standpoint?

    I doubt Josh Childress makes what Neterovic does......

    Since Atlanta is so far UNDER the cap, are there exceptions that could make it work?

    Capologists?

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    Seems like you answered my question as I was typing it.

    Thanks

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    I dont think that would work, considering the Hawks drafted the kid 2nd overall in the NBA draft. I really wouldnt take him anyway because he has only played one year of college ball

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    Only the salary for next season has to be close to matching. The total of the contract doesn't matter.
    but Atlanta needs fexibility to build a new team, Rasho's contract is too long IMO.

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    hawks would like that contract they would not have to worry about rasho leaving via fa

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    but Atlanta needs fexibility to build a new team
    They need a center more, and Rasho's deal is a pretty fair one made better by the escalation of the salary cap.

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    C Rasho
    PF Scola
    SF Williams
    SG Smith
    PG TBD

    Not a bad team. If they are thinking about throwing money at Zaza PaWHO?lia, they'd be ecstatic getting Rasho at his price.

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    You don't deal Beno. Rasho and Scola's rights for Childress is plenty.
    Did you notice I included a first round draft pick in that? It's the Hawks, it'll still be a good one.


    but Atlanta needs fexibility to build a new team, Rasho's contract is too long IMO.
    Atlanta isn't going to build a team through FA unless they grossly overpay the going rate. look at this summer, they didn't even get a sniff from most of the guys they targeted (JJohnson not withstanding).

    Especially in the instance they get JJ, they will have a glut of players at the 2-3 and no front line depth or talent whatsoever.

    They have something the Spurs want (long athletic threes) in abundance. The Spurs have something they want (frontcourt talent). It's a perfect fit.

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    hawks could have jj to
    and did not hawks want to offer curry 10 million a year?

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    Did you notice I included a first round draft pick in that? It's the Hawks, it'll still be a good one.
    Why would we want a good pick?

    We don't know how to use good picks!

    we are good at crappy ones . . . 25+ . . . and even better at 2nd round pick.

    The with a good pick

    It's been so long since we had one (good pick). . .

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    The more I look into Josh Childress, the more I like him. He's 21 and has great size for a small forward. In his rookie year, he got better and better. In February, he averaged 12.5 points and 8.5 rebounds, while shooting 52.1% from the floor, 44.4% from beyond the arc and 88% from the line. In March, those numbers rose to 14.3 points and 7.5 rebounds. In April, he went up to 16.0 points and 7.5 rebounds.

    You gotta love a long small forward who can rebound. That would be deadly in the Spurs' system. Factor in his improving outside shot and his good character ... and you have a perfect fit for the Spurs.

    Here is what RC said about Akyol.

    In reviewing the foreign players taken in the second round, Buford said he was stunned to see Lithuanian center Martynas Andriuskevicius drop to Orlando at No. 44 before being dealt to Cleveland. He also said he liked Atlanta’s selection of Cenk Akyol of Efes Pilsen in Turkey at No. 59.
    Akyol just turned 18 and is one of the better prospects of his age group. Getting him plus Childress would be a major steal for the Spurs.

    Let's just hope the Hawks would bite. It's possible, seeing as the Spurs could offer the Hawks' future starting two bigmen.


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