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    You completely miss the point. Not shocking.



    First of all, of course our military spending needs to come down. That goes without saying. But why do you think just throwing MORE money at a broken system will help ANYTHING? We already spend more than any other nation on healthcare, and the US CLEARLY gets less out of the money we spend. So what, exactly, would throwing another trillion dollars at the problem change? Serious question, and I'd like you to answer it.
    I didn't miss your point, I just think you are missing mine. And I never said that would fix it all. I have been very clear on what I think is the biggest problem with "Healthcare" in America, those things I mentioned, which is true preventative care knowledge and practice, then healthcare will never be close to ever being fixed if that is never addressed and accepted, instead of suppressed to help out big pharma. That's what noone is talking about. But yea, cutting defense spending and ending wars can help on covering those that want and need coverage. But there is much more to fix healthcare in the USA..and thats with our food supply, the many overly used unnecessary medications, lack of real nutrition and other alternative methods that are suppressed. Prevention and stronger immune systems are the best way to make a huge impact. That would cut costs in a major way for people, but that would cut into insurance companies and pharma profits, so lets all ignore the truth and lets all pretend that we all have to be as sick as we are and pay for crap we dont need, bc elections must be won and cronies must get richer.

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    I didn't miss your point, I just think you are missing mine. And I never said that would fix it all. I have been very clear on what I think is the biggest problem with "Healthcare" in America, those things I mentioned, which is true preventative care knowledge and practice, then healthcare will never be close to ever being fixed if that is never addressed and accepted, instead of suppressed to help out big pharma. That's what noone is talking about. But yea, cutting defense spending and ending wars can help on covering those that want and need coverage. But there is much more to fix healthcare in the USA..and thats with our food supply, the many overly used unnecessary medications, lack of real nutrition and other alternative methods that are suppressed. Prevention and stronger immune systems are the best way to make a huge impact. That would cut costs in a major way for people, but that would cut into insurance companies and pharma profits, so lets all ignore the truth and lets all pretend that we all have to be as sick as we are and pay for crap we dont need, bc elections must be won and cronies must get richer.
    You definitely didn't watch the video. No worries. Just keep assuring yourself that it's exactly how you see it and not a bit more complex than that.

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    You definitely didn't watch the video. No worries. Just keep assuring yourself that it's exactly how you see it and not a bit more complex than that.
    Actually its quite simple. Millions can prevent most sicknesses, and thats the main problem. There wouldn't be as much burden to cover emergencies if that whole other problem was taken care of. But there is no money in less people being sick. You aren't understanding that. Keep assuring yourself though that it's so difficult.

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    Obama probly grabbed $398 million of the $400 million for obamacare.com and went Derek Jeter on a regiment of hookers in Vegas. Then proceeded to build Obamacare with the remaining 2 million outsourced to Mumbai and his homeland Kenya

    Pimp Obama showing true pimps how it's done. Negro rules tbh

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    Actually its quite simple. Millions can prevent most sicknesses, and thats the main problem. There wouldn't be as much burden to cover emergencies if that whole other problem was taken care of. But there is no money in less people being sick. You aren't understanding that. Keep assuring yourself though that it's so difficult.
    "Everyone should just be healthy! Then we wouldn't have problems!"

    - From the department of realistic expectations.

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    "Everyone should just be healthy! Then we wouldn't have problems!"

    - From the department of realistic expectations.
    No, you just don't understand what I'm talking about, and that's my point. More people should be educated on holistic natural health and sick prevention, rather than have poison shoved down their throats that dont actually cure anything, they only mask problems and create more without ever getting to why you got sick to begin with. Take care of the whole body thru diet and nutrition, etc (and not the bogus food pyramid crap), and there would be millions less sick. It takes time to research this and understand it, but you should start now and so should med schools.

    -From the department of common sense

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    No, you just don't understand what I'm talking about, and that's my point. More people should be educated on holistic natural health and sick prevention, rather than have poison shoved down their throats that dont actually cure anything, they only mask problems and create more without ever getting to why you got sick to begin with. Take care of the whole body thru diet and nutrition, etc (and not the bogus food pyramid crap), and there would be millions less sick. It takes time to research this and understand it, but you should start now and so should med schools.


    Telling me I don't understand what you're talking about doesn't make it true. Your "point", using that term loosely, is *really* not that hard to comprehend. Continuing to state it as though I "don't get it" doesn't make your point any stronger, either, so you can stop that too.

    -From the department of common sense
    Is this also the department of common sense that thinks morphine is a vaccine? Because I'm fairly certain that destroys any medical knowledge credibility, common sense or not, you claim to have the authority of.

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    Telling me I don't understand what you're talking about doesn't make it true. Your "point", using that term loosely, is *really* not that hard to comprehend. Continuing to state it as though I "don't get it" doesn't make your point any stronger, either, so you can stop that too.



    Is this also the department of common sense that thinks morphine is a vaccine? Because I'm fairly certain that destroys any medical knowledge credibility, common sense or not, you claim to have the authority of.

    I don't think that at all, I was referring to injections of medicines thru needle or oral of many kinds bc my argument was medical drugs in general, not just vaccines...and you wanted to run with something that was never true and I later clarified what I was saying, bc even back then you didn't/couldn't understand the world I speak of. You lying about that makes you lose credibility, period. And I can say as long as I want that you don't understand, because it is very true. You really do not understand it. If you did, you wouldn't be saying the ridiculous things you are saying tbh.

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    I don't think that at all, I was referring to injections of medicines thru needle or oral of many kinds bc my argument was medical drugs in general, not just vaccines...
    Yes. Smallpox got rid of itself. Polio too. Modern medicine is bad mmkay?

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    Yes. Smallpox got rid of itself. Polio too. Modern medicine is bad mmkay?
    Saying more things that are untrue. Focus on what I was saying about prevention before you want to go wild on changing the subject. My point is that YOU and everyone is talking about SICK care, not real "health care". And millions can be less sick by focusing on prevention thru diet and nutrition and other things. I never said sickness would be totally eliminated or that medicine is never necessary, so you can stop exaggerating or spinning now. But there would be way less sickness and disease, way less. But like I said there is no money in that. The sick industry must go on..its all about the bottom line.

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    Alternative treatment suppression is a joke too. Cannabis oil cures many cancers, even Sanjay Gupta came out on CNN recently and admitted it when he did a story on baby Landon and apologized for misleading the country on it.

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    [QUOTE=Clipper Nation;6893811] What access? Nobody can get on because the website is so ty.... just imagine how horrible the service will be if people actually get to sign up for it![/QUOTE

    I have to agree. If the store front is broken does a customer really even bother to go inside?

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    is it true this site cost $500 million?

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    is it true this site cost $500 million?
    I think it was more than that. and to redo it in a rush will probably cost over twice that

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    you just can't make this up:

    Now She Tells Us: Sebelius Says Obamacare's Exchange Website Needed Six Years of Development, Instead Of Two
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapoth...nstead-of-two/

    “We didn’t have enough testing…for a very complicated project,” she conceded to the Wall Street Journal. The exchanges needed five years of construction and one year of testing, and instead had only “two years [of construction] and almost no testing.”


    5 years of development

    stupid incompetent has no idea. Any software that takes over 5 years in development will become obsolete by the time it goes live

    1 year of testing

    holy this was in charge of the whole thing???????


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    I have to agree. If the store front is broken does a customer really even bother to go inside?
    When your alternative is an $80,000 ER bill? Yes, yes you do. You also realize that such a massive undertaking isn't necessarily going to be smooth from day 1.

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    When your alternative is an $80,000 ER bill? Yes, yes you do. You also realize that such a massive undertaking isn't necessarily going to be smooth from day 1.
    my alternative was never an $80,000 ER bill. why are you making stuff up?

    and regarding your 2nd point, if they knew things would not be smooth from day 1, why do they expect us to sign up within the time frame given or else pay a fine?

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    my alternative was never an $80,000 ER bill. why are you making stuff up?

    and regarding your 2nd point, if they knew things would not be smooth from day 1, why do they expect us to sign up within the time frame given or else pay a fine?
    You posed the question as "would the general public go into a store with a broken sign". I was answering that question. Why are you suddenly acting like you phrased the question as though it only personally related to you?

    Obviously it's been a little (lot) more rough than expected, and so they've pushed the time back that people have to start paying a penalty.

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    You posed the question as "would the general public go into a store with a broken sign". I was answering that question. Why are you suddenly acting like you phrased the question as though it only personally related to you?
    then you are assuming 100% of the public had the alternative of $80,000 ER bills which is a flat out lie.

    Obviously it's been a little (lot) more rough than expected, and so they've pushed the time back that people have to start paying a penalty.
    they have? do you have a link that announces they have pushed the deadline back?

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    CH making things up? no waaayyy

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    you just can't make this up:

    Now She Tells Us: Sebelius Says Obamacare's Exchange Website Needed Six Years of Development, Instead Of Two
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapoth...nstead-of-two/

    “We didn’t have enough testing…for a very complicated project,” she conceded to the Wall Street Journal. The exchanges needed five years of construction and one year of testing, and instead had only “two years [of construction] and almost no testing.”


    5 years of development

    stupid incompetent has no idea. Any software that takes over 5 years in development will become obsolete by the time it goes live

    1 year of testing

    holy this was in charge of the whole thing???????



    These people are almost making me forget how stupid W was

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    they have? do you have a link that announces they have pushed the deadline back?
    http://www.nytimes.com/news/affordab...alty-deadline/

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    then you are assuming 100% of the public had the alternative of $80,000 ER bills which is a flat out lie.
    Every single member of the public COULD have an $80k ER bill. That's the problem. Of course it probably won't happen to you, but if it does, I hope you have a cool $100k in cash sitting in the bank. The vast, vast majority of people don't. Do you think it's a coincidence that, among the top nations of the world, medical bankruptcy is only even acknowledged as a POSSIBILITY in the U.S.?

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    So what happens when things get smoothed out (you know they will)? What are you guys going to cry about then?

    The pause in between pages on the site is too long?

    LOL

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