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    Whatever you say
    ElNono: 1 - Spartan: 0

    Let us proceed...
    ElNono owning Skull-1 per par tbh...

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    did u forget he shot a damn near 28 footer previously for no apparent reason other than the fact that he wanted to do it?
    Yes, they all forget this.

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    Take away Duncan and no 50 win streak, that's for sure.
    shhhhhhhhhhh girl. You ed up, now go sit at the back of the bus.

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    shhhhhhhhhhh girl. You ed up, now go sit at the back of the bus.

    Racist.


    Again, refute the point? You can't. Tim makes everyone look better than they are. Period.

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    Take away Duncan and no 50 win streak, that's for sure.
    Prove it.

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    Racist.

    Again, refute the point? You can't. Tim makes everyone look better than they are. Period.
    Refute a point you didn't make? Prove we don't win 50.

    Prove also we win 50 with TD but with another coach.

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    Spartan talking in "parables" again

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    Pop himself will tell you Tim is the foundation. He built a team around Tim to maximize his strengths (ie: surround him with shooters to space the floor for him).

    And Tim is great on his own right. But the fact that teams keep hiring Pop's assistant coaches throughout the league and teams keep trying to copy our team's system and culture comes straight from what Pop built.

    You might disagree with certain decisions he made (not fouling last Finals, marrying Finley/Bonner), etc. But this is a game where you can't win with a single superstar. You need a team around, and he's been able to build a team successfully around the star, and make it consistently good. How's that not great?

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    Pop himself will tell you Tim is the foundation. He built a team around Tim to maximize his strengths (ie: surround him with shooters to space the floor for him).

    And Tim is great on his own right. But the fact that teams keep hiring Pop's assistant coaches throughout the league and teams keep trying to copy our team's system and culture comes straight from what Pop built.

    You might disagree with certain decisions he made (not fouling last Finals, marrying Finley/Bonner), etc. But this is a game where you can't win with a single superstar. You need a team around, and he's been able to build a team successfully around the star, and make it consistently good. How's that not great?
    It is great. Have a super time tonight and thoroughly enjoy seeing your team in action! Courtside no less!! When people are crying over a shot Manu 'missed' before he hit the game winner, then it's simply time to change their diaper and it can't be you! You are going to a Spurs game!!
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    did u forget he shot a damn near 28 footer previously for no apparent reason other than the fact that he wanted to do it?
    Did you forget he was instrumental in 2 of our championships? My ing god the guy had one bad season, I'm not some church of Manu guy I just support guys on our team because they're on our team and this player specifically has given his all to this organization. do you even like the spurs? 99% of your posts are ing about manu

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    That's silly. Dallas had the 'best team on paper' and '60 wins' season a year later and couldn't get out of the first round.
    Based on SRS, The Spurs were the best team in the league in 2007. Dallas were winning a lot of close games and overachieved that year. They weren't really any better than the 2007 Suns...certainly not on the Spurs level. SRS numbers for that year:

    8.35 - Spurs
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    7.27 - Suns

    Sometimes you're not healthy (TD had plantar fasciitis during that series) or you run into a bad matchup.
    Despite the plantar fascitis, TD put up a dominant statline against Dallas over those seven games. Best player in the series. Manu was the third best player in the series. How Pop could lose a series while having the best player and third player AND homecourt, I'll never know.

    Those were the years we were still looking for a 'Dirk stopper'. Us and the rest of the league.
    Dirk was not unstoppable back then. He looked mediocre against the Heat, terrible against the Warrior during his MVP year the season after. 2011 Dirk you could say was unstoppable. 2007 Dirk had flaws in his game that could be exploited.

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    dirk blooked terrible because spurs made him work so hard and he was not used to playing that many games in a season
    manu cost the spurs on that stupid foul in game 7 not pop

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    Based on SRS, The Spurs were the best team in the league in 2007. Dallas were winning a lot of close games and overachieved that year. They weren't really any better than the 2007 Suns...certainly not on the Spurs level. SRS numbers for that year:

    8.35 - Spurs
    7.28 - Mavs
    7.27 - Suns
    The Spurs had the best SRS from 2003-04 to 2006-07. We only won half the time. Dallas had the league's best SRS in 2002-03, and we eliminated them. That's because you can't pick and choose stats to suit your narrative. TD didn't get hurt till late in the season. Dirk got hurt in our series in 02-03. This stuff happens, and that's why the numbers are rarely the whole story.

    Despite the plantar fascitis, TD put up a dominant statline against Dallas over those seven games. Best player in the series. Manu was the third best player in the series. How Pop could lose a series while having the best player and third player AND homecourt, I'll never know.
    TD put up monster numbers, but ask any Mavs fan how Spursfan completely overrated Diop for what he did that series against Tim. And it really wasn't Diop. Tim really stepped it up that series, but he couldn't give 100%.

    The only thing that I didn't like was Pop pretty much throwing that Game 2 after that fatal 2nd quarter. But in hindsight, he might just been trying to avoid TD from getting even more hurt.

    Dirk was not unstoppable back then. He looked mediocre against the Heat, terrible against the Warrior during his MVP year the season after. 2011 Dirk you could say was unstoppable. 2007 Dirk had flaws in his game that could be exploited.
    We couldn't stop him. Dirk matched Duncan in offensive production. He shot 52% from the field (vs 55% for TD) and scored 190 points (vs 226 for TD).

    If you look at that series, we just didn't have enough offense, and only made it close because of our D. They had 4 players that scored 100+ points during the series (Dirk, Terry, Howard and Stackhouse). Harris came fifth with 89. The Spurs only had 3 (Tim, Manu and Tony). The fourth was Finley with 74 points. After that, you're looking at players contributing 30 points or so for the entire 7 game series.

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    manu might get his jump shot back now that he might have some legs left after trying to get his wife pregnant for hours a day

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    dirk blooked terrible because spurs made him work so hard and he was not used to playing that many games in a season
    manu cost the spurs on that stupid foul in game 7 not pop

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    manu might get his jump shot back now that he might have some legs left after trying to get his wife pregnant for hours a day

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    A dumb man once asked, "will Manu Ginobili ever score 20 points in a game again?" In memory of his stupidity, I don't ask dumb questions about Manu.

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    I see Manu's role slowly changing over the course of the season and his minutes being distributed more evenly with other members of the team. As long as he plays within himself I'm okay with how he performs. He'll never be what he once was but he'll show flashes.

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    I see Manu's role slowly changing over the course of the season and his minutes being distributed more evenly with other members of the team.
    I think so. Especially if his shot is gone for good. I predicted his minutes would dilute to Belli and Green. Manu still valuable, but he most definitely should not keep same role he played in 2013 playoffs.

    As long as he plays within himself I'm okay with how he performs. He'll never be what he once was but he'll show flashes.
    hope so

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    I see Manu's role slowly changing over the course of the season and his minutes being distributed more evenly with other members of the team. As long as he plays within himself I'm okay with how he performs. He'll never be what he once was but he'll show flashes.

    Agreed. His shot looks like garbage. No idea why someone who does this for a living can't figure out SOMETHING to make that aspect of his game better. I still think it has something to do with that broken hand.

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