Trading Beno Udrih?

[Merlin]

What you say is true but you have to consider that being the PG, he has to defer to Duncan and Manu. That's why he disapear sometimes from the games.
Inconsistency is his major problem, but we all hope here that he will resolve it within the next few years and become one of the elite PG in the league.
He has really improved in defense and he can't be considered anymore as a liability. His defense is really good now but he can't compete with Bowen or Manu yet. In the last playoffs, I thought that he did a good job against Miller after the first game and Ridnour. But his greatest achievement was against Nash.
Nash was playing increadibily well against Dallas and for the first two games in Phoenix but Tony tired him and Steve wasn't as effective in the fourth of both games and that's a big reason why San Antonio won both of these games.

When I said that defensively that TP was a liability, that is only against certain point guards like a Billups for example. He did what he wanted to do against Parker for pretty much the whole series. Billups struggled in the last game but Bowen had a lot to do with that.

[Horry For 3!]

Personally, I want Beno to remain a Spur. But I'm hearing a lot of talking indicating that the Spurs would be willing to deal Beno. Perhaps the coaching staff soured on him at some point. Who knows?

If they do, what are some trades that you'd accept for Beno? Most likely, the Spurs would be getting a veteran PG in return.

Here are some trades that would deal Udrih and bring back a more veteran point guard:

Beno Udrih + Linton Johnson for Anthony Johnson.
The Pacers really wanted Beno in the draft last season. He was the player they targeted with the last pick in the first round. With the addition of Sarunas Jasikevicius, the Pacers need to move a point guard. Perhaps they'd want to bring in Beno as a young prospect for the future. Johnson is 31 years old and is coming off of his best season. He averaged 8.4 points, 4.8 assists and was 13th in the league in assists to turnovers.

Beno Udrih + Fillers (or Devin Brown) for Speedy Claxton
Claxton is in the last year of his deal. Spurs fans know what he can do. If the Hornets want to open the door for Chris Paul, trading Speedy makes sense.

Beno Udrih + Luis Scola for Jameer Nelson
The Spurs wanted Nelson in the draft last summer. They almost traded up to get him. If he would have fallen one more pick, he would have been a Spur. With the Magic signing Keyon Dooling and saying they aren't going to trade Francis, perhaps that makes Nelson expendable. The Magic also have another forward playing in the Spanish league, so getting Scola would just add to their collection.

Beno Udrih + Devin Brown for Chucky Atkins and a first round pick
This is more of a reach. Atkins has one more year left on his contract and could be a decent backup. It'd be giving away a lot but the Wizards are interested in Devin and don't have a backup point guard (depending on how they use AD). The Spurs would do it to get a good first round pick and a player who can fill in at point for a year.

Anthony Johnson - he is okay but getting too old and he isn't that great. No
Speedy Claxton - he is a good player in which we know we used to have him, he didn't want to sign back with us and why should we lose Beno & Devin for him. no
Jameer Nelson - he played pretty decent last year when he was the pg but that was the East. he also had tons of tos and can't play defense worth because he is like 5 feet tall. No thanks
Chucky Atkins & 1st round pick - Chucky Atkins is horrible, one word NO. 1st round pick...we're just starting over again trying to find another pg like Beno. NO

Therefore through my opionions the answer to all this would be... NO ok, thanks.

[SWC Bonfire]

Beno's trade value plummeted after the finals, deserved or not.

[yavozerb]

My ideal trade would be Rasho and Beno for Andre Iguodola from the sixers!!If only the sixers dalembert wouldnt have sighned, who knows!!!I will also take either of the Josh's from Atl...

[1Parker1]

No way the Sixers would have traded Andre Iguodala for Rasho and Beno........they think Andre is going to be the future of the Sixers franchise.

[valluco]

Trading Beno could be a mistake. He is a solid back up and he will improve his play in the postseason. Remember he was a rookie after all, and after experincing the level of play and pressure in the playoffs along with Pop's teachings he's going to be even better. The Spurs should keep him.

[CaptainLate]

i would trade him but not any of those trades

He was fine for a rookie. I think we can get more for him (high 1st Rounder) after a 2nd year of seasoning under our system. So I'd wait another year.

[CaptainLate]

Jameer Nelson - 68% FT shooter. It's inevitable.

LMAO. Agreed. However, let's wait till the All-Star deadline. I think we can get more.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

My ideal trade would be Rasho and Beno for Andre Iguodola from the sixers!!If only the sixers dalembert wouldnt have sighned, who knows

My ideal trade would be LeBron for Linton and Wilks, doesn't mean it has a prayer of happening.

Even if the Sixers hadn't re-signed Sam, they still wouldn't have been sending out Andre to the Spurs (not without one of Tony or Manu going back, anyway).

[CaptainLate]

Beno will be fine next season. If you recall, Parker had a terrible first year as well adjusting to the NBA. We all were talking the same "trade parker now" demands that first year. Especially when J kidd was considering joining the Spurs. Now that Beno has gotten his "feet wet" and knows what it takes to suceed, he will be a decent back up next year. I wouldn't trade him, for any of the above players. Beno will be great next year!

Right...and after 4 years TP is still freezing up in the playoffs. I think we should at least give BU another year in the playoffs.

[Ocotillo]

If Beno were to be traded he would have to have another player shipped off with him because he doesn't make all that much money in the scheme of things.

[timvp]

On local radio today, Don Harris said that he gets the feeling from RC and Pop that they don't think that Beno is the answer as the backup point guard. I've been getting the same feeling.

I think there is something to this. Perhaps it's an off the floor issue that we are unaware of. Perhaps the Spurs doubt his compe iveness or his heart or something like that. Who knows...

But if I were a betting man, I'd bet that Beno will not be the team's backup point guard going into next season. It'll shock Spurs fans but I sense something happening.

[T Park]

It wouldn't shock me.

His lack of speed is what kills him.

What speedy claxton had going for him speed, had a good mid range shot, but could get to the rim quite easily.


I don't like it, but I can see their point of view.

[Mr. Body]

But if I were a betting man, I'd bet that Beno will not be the team's backup point guard going into next season. It'll shock Spurs fans but I sense something happening.

It'd certainly shock me.

[angel_luv]

Are you saying the Spurs will trade Beno or keep him to play minutes like Mike Wilks did last year?

[Marcus Bryant]

Perhaps the Spurs are using this as motivation to get Beno to work on something they'd like for him to...

[T Park]

I would think, if you aint got speed, you can't work on it.

[T Park]

Are you saying the Spurs will trade Beno or keep him to play minutes like Mike Wilks did last year?

I think hes saying hes going to get traded, or maybe packaged with Nesterovic.

Wich makes sense, and if it returns a great player? Do it.

Especially to a team like New Orleans for a Speedy Claxton David West combination.

[Dalamar_the_Dark]

If the spurs lose Beno, it will be one dumb ass move. You dont get PGs coming to you in the draft everyday. they need to be developed. name me a PG who walked in and took over the entire team in his first year? I mean dominated and led his team. Make a list. Id love to see who we can come up with.

[angel_luv]

[QUOTE=T Park]I think hes saying hes going to get traded, or maybe packaged with Nesterovic.[QUOTE]


about both!

[T Park]

name me a PG who walked in and took over the entire team in his first year

Tony Parker.

Didn't totally take over, but walked in and started from day 1.
Jason Kidd
Gary Payton.....

[ObiwanGinobili]

i would trade him but not any of those trades

agreed.

[Clandestino]

just about any PG can play half a season well... and finish like a chode.. beno couldn't even bring the damn ball up the court w/o losing.. screw him, the offer for a case of union pivo(slovenian beer) still stands!

[Mr. Body]

If the spurs lose Beno, it will be one dumb ass move.

I agree. Back-ups in the league I'd rather have than him is a rather short list.

[Dalamar_the_Dark]

Tony Parker.

Didn't totally take over, but walked in and started from day 1.
Jason Kidd
Gary Payton.....

correct me if Im wrong. but Parker didnt start from day 1. Im talking about a PG who dominated from day 1.

Parker
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFFDEFRPGAPGSPG BPG TO PF PPG
01-02 SAS 77 72 29.4 .419 .323 .675 .4 2.1 2.6 4.3 1.16 .09 1.96 2.20 9.2

JKidd
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFFDEFRPGAPG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
94-95 DAL 79 79 33.8 .385 .272 .698 1.9 3.5 5.4 7.7 1.91 .30 3.16 1.80 11.7


Gary Payton dominated? U gotta be kidding me.
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT%OFFDEFRPGAPG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
90-91 SEA 82 82 27.4 .450 .077 .711 1.3 1.6 3.0 6.4 2.01 .18 2.20 3.00 7.2

Seriously, I dont see how comparing those stats those 2 dominated. Tell me otherwise.