Somebody has to show Parker love...

[hater]

Finally, the right to free speech is not without restraint. (Fire in a crowded theater, etc. etc.).

You are seriously comparing mentioning game 6 or 7 to screaming "fire" in a crowded theather? wow

I am merely expressing a preference for some restraint that appears unavailable to the individuals who will not restrain themselves.

banning people for mentioning game 6 or 7 is showing restraint?

so by your logic, if that's restraint, being strict would be shooting the violators of your rule and taking their families to concentration camps

[Rebounds]

can't we just appreciate all the players that make a contribution to the team?? It's always something with some of you posters on here.. the only player off limits is timmy and even he's been under scrutiny by some of you. Quit with the negative Parker stuff too because there's not many players out there in the league right now that can do the things for the team that he's doing. I know some of you are trolling and just trying to get a reaction but some of you probably genuinely hate the guy that bails this team out half the time and consistently gets double figures and flips the switch when the team needs him. hero ball? what else would you rather him do when nobody else on the team can buy a bucket?

[wildchild]

We all know, Tony tends to focus more on scoring than getting his teammates (not named Tim) involved. Most people think that a true point guard finds a way to get his teammates the ball and making them better like Nash, Rondo, those PGs who facilitate the offense on the team, but Tony fits into Spurs system great.

His killer instinct in scoring makes a winning team, he was amazing vs Dubs/Grizz last playoffs, he's our best offensive player and one of the top three point guards in the NBA.

Having said that, I still think he has weak chemistry with young guys like Leonard, Cory, it isn't a big deal if Spurs win.
You know, it's hard to find chemistry between stars and young players, but if Tony improving this chemistry would be a big help in playoffs.

[wildchild]

Tony's top 10 plays Finals

[313]

Pass first pgs like Rondo rarely of ever lead a team to an nba championship. I'll take Tony.

[wildchild]

Pass first pgs like Rondo rarely of ever lead a team to an nba championship. I'll take Tony.

Well, Rondo wasn't part of Big3 (Pierce, Garnett, Allen) like Tony was, but agree with you, I choose Tony, too.

[EVAY]

You are seriously comparing mentioning game 6 or 7 to screaming "fire" in a crowded theather? wow



banning people for mentioning game 6 or 7 is showing restraint?



so by your logic, if that's restraint, being strict would be shooting the violators of your rule and taking their families to concentration camps

No, Hater, I did NOT equate complaining to yelling fire in a crowded theater. Moreover, I suggested SUSPENDING could be used to get people to change their whining ways. Suspension refers to a temporary situation. Banning is permanent. I used yelling fire in a crowded theater as an EXAMPLE of restraint upon free speech.

Your commitment to reductio ad absurdam fallacies continues with your suggestion that a strictness would be equated with murder and concentration camps.

FYI, a reductio ad absurdam fallacy is what is used when a debater does precisely what you have done, i.e., mischaracterize the position of another by setting upon false equivalencies along the lines of "Well, if you believe that this is good, then it only stands to reason that the most extreme position along the continuum of positions you have taken is also good". It is a logical fallacy because it is preposterous to assume that because one thing is true, the most extreme version of that thing must also be true. When a debater engages in logical fallacies in a debate, they lose points or are disqualified if it is done enough.

Hater I usually agree with your positions on most things. I am merely sick to death of all the carping on this board. I have exercised my right to avoid that carping by choosing to participate in other fan boards than this one during the games, because I don't want to be distracted during a game by trying to refute some of the more asinine comments during the game. I will continue to do that. In the meantime, I will also hope that moderation breaks out on ST sometime in the future.

[EVAY]

dp

[resistanze]

Replace Parker with Chris Paul or Curry and Spurs beat Miami in five or six games last year.

Replace Manu with a corpse and the Spurs Beat Miami in 5 or 6 games last year

[Diego20]

Replace Manu with a corpse and the Spurs Beat Miami in 5 or 6 games last year

Replace TP with Mills because he can actually play D unlike TP and Spurs beat Miami in 5 or 6 game last year.

[Brazil]

Replace TP with Mills because he can actually play D unlike TP and Spurs beat Miami in 5 or 6 game last year.

dat troll

[hater]

No, Hater, I did NOT equate complaining to yelling fire in a crowded theater. Moreover, I suggested SUSPENDING could be used to get people to change their whining ways. Suspension refers to a temporary situation. Banning is permanent. I used yelling fire in a crowded theater as an EXAMPLE of restraint upon free speech.

Your commitment to reductio ad absurdam fallacies continues with your suggestion that a strictness would be equated with murder and concentration camps.

FYI, a reductio ad absurdam fallacy is what is used when a debater does precisely what you have done, i.e., mischaracterize the position of another by setting upon false equivalencies along the lines of "Well, if you believe that this is good, then it only stands to reason that the most extreme position along the continuum of positions you have taken is also good". It is a logical fallacy because it is preposterous to assume that because one thing is true, the most extreme version of that thing must also be true. When a debater engages in logical fallacies in a debate, they lose points or are disqualified if it is done enough.

Hater I usually agree with your positions on most things. I am merely sick to death of all the carping on this board. I have exercised my right to avoid that carping by choosing to participate in other fan boards than this one during the games, because I don't want to be distracted during a game by trying to refute some of the more asinine comments during the game. I will continue to do that. In the meantime, I will also hope that moderation breaks out on ST sometime in the future.

I never said permanent ban either. There is such thing as a temp ban.

but I get your point and let's just agree to disagree brotha.

[sananspursfan21]

[Tim_5rings]

can't we just appreciate all the players that make a contribution to the team?? It's always something with some of you posters on here.. the only player off limits is timmy and even he's been under scrutiny by some of you. Quit with the negative Parker stuff too because there's not many players out there in the league right now that can do the things for the team that he's doing. I know some of you are trolling and just trying to get a reaction but some of you probably genuinely hate the guy that bails this team out half the time and consistently gets double figures and flips the switch when the team needs him. hero ball? what else would you rather him do when nobody else on the team can buy a bucket?

Three friends playing together over twelve years and more importantly with the same coach, I personally think it's truly beautiful (maybe it's unprecedented)
Enjoy, because after the Big three risk of being a big hassle
Everyone thinks that the solution will be Tanking, seriously, you really think that the next draft choice in the top 5/10 will be certainly a player of the class of Timmy, D-Rob, Manu, or TP
There are risks of bad picks without Pop and RC, maybe the decision will be bad
Risk of injury (Oden)
Bad draft class ...

People on the board have created animosity and rivalry, which certainly doesn't exist
They don't play the same position and are complementary in their difference

You can't just be like English soccer fans and support your team at all times, and not spit on all players or men we love a little less

Myself, I love the current roster, of course it can be improved but
It always gives me pleasure to watch them play

Spurs still play the best basketball of all NBA

[BadOne]

Do you even realize that you specifically gave THREE reasons why the Spurs lost the 5 point lead that Tony Parker had given them in that game.

So it is hardly on one person alone, is it? You wanted him (in hindsight) to give it to someone else after he had been scoring the last five points that put us ahead? If someone else had scored those 5 points and Tony didn't give it to that person, he would have been crucified for not giving the ball to the guy with the hot hand.

I'm not even going to mention that it was Manu who went one for two in the last seconds because all of this is so f***ing TEDIOUS. It was a TEAM loss, after a team that was expected to never get out of the west got as far as almost taking the Championship.

Geez man, ain't accusing Parker of losing the series. I agree with you that it was a team loss. I'm saying IMO what killed the last chances we had. I concur that Parker is responsible for said lead. Barkin up the wrong tree there.

Likewise I don't understand all of the bashing on any of the big 3 round here. We'd have 0 championships without them. Parker might be the least favorite of mine out of the big three...that don't mean I hate the dude.

[Sean Cagney]

Replace TP with Mills because he can actually play D unlike TP and Spurs beat Miami in 5 or 6 game last year.

Get the outta here....... Period.

[TheGreatYacht]

Glad you're back TP9! Without you Spurs wouldn't of gone nowhere last year

[Brazil]

People should also thank Parker for bringing Boris tbh

another credit nobody gives to him

[Johnny RIngo]

Without you Spurs wouldn't of gone nowhere last year

Yes, Parker was great in the first three rounds. Then he pulled the biggest chokejob of his career against the Heat.

[HI-FI]

People should also thank Parker for bringing Boris tbh

another credit nobody gives to him

i definitely give him credit for it, I love having Boris on the team, liked him when he was with Phoenix. Parker deserves his props, but when he heroballs us to death or bukkakes a mate's wife, he deserves to get called out for it.

[Brazil]

i definitely give him credit for it, I love having Boris on the team, liked him when he was with Phoenix. Parker deserves his props, but when he heroballs us to death or bukkakes a mate's wife, he deserves to get called out for it.

Im all for calling me out for a lot of stuff but heroball is bs talk

[Johnny RIngo]

Im all for calling me out for a lot of stuff but heroball is bs talk

Shooting 6-23 isn't heroballing?

[ElNono]

Shooting 6-23 isn't heroballing?

so-so shooting night. It happens...

[Diego20]

Glad you're back TP9! Without you Spurs wouldn't of gone nowhere last year

Really, why are you talking about last year?

[Mikeanaro]

Heroball is not BS, STalkers should not be posting truths based on ¨just one game¨, tonight he was great and tomorrow maybe he will suck, small sample discussions are useless, lets enjoy the win and wait for the playoffs.