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I agree with your points, but did he really whine about needing rest? That's vagina material right there.
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I agree with your points, but did he really whine about needing rest? That's vagina material right there.
another ty take
parker contract is a bargain
carry on
Dragic definitely deserved it more than TP, but with the Spurs record being what it is, at least one player had to represent the team.
Dragic will likely get in since CP3 probably won't play due to injury.
Parker's contract is fair value actually considering his tendency to disappoint in the post-season. Great regular season player tho
It has everything to do with why he didn't make it. As I alluded to in my initial post, this isn't about statistical merit; it's about politics. My point was, how foolish is it that a single play, that he had no control over, essentially determined whether he was an All-Star this season or not?
Cousins was never going to get the fan vote though, which is why it was irrelevant in his case.
Again, you missed the point. Duncan and Parker were 50/50 to win Finals MVP.
I wasn't speaking about the fans, I was speaking about the coaches, who should be above what you said and any other biases.
No it has nothing to do with why he didn't make it. You just gave a scenario where he would make it, without justifying him making it. You just showed human tendency to fold to pressure. Not having that pressure is not why he didn't make it. He didn't make it because A) he's not playing at that level and B) he's in a small market, and C) he's spent his entire career as in introvert, on a team that totes a "quiet dynasty" banner with the media. He's chosen for years to avoid advertising himself to the world. It should not be a shocker that the world doesn't vote for him. The fact they ever did is testament to just how dominant he was.
If Cousins had his team in the playoff race, he would.Cousins was never going to get the fan vote though, which is why it was irrelevant in his case.
But James won it so your 50/50 doesn't make sense. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too. If winning an MVP gets you undeserved credit the following year, then not winning it gets you what?Again, you missed the point. Duncan and Parker were 50/50 to win Finals MVP.
No one is above bias, unless you mean Len Bias in which case everyone is above him.I wasn't speaking about the fans, I was speaking about the coaches, who should be above what you said and any other biases.
Good for TP. Not his best year, but he deserves it for carrying the Spurs up to the this point.
As for Tim...I've finally come to terms with the fact that Tim just really doesn't care at this point. Sure, one more All-Star Game on his resume would be nice, but it's not really going to affect his legacy. He'd probably prefer to rest. Couple that with the fact that Tim's season has been steady but hardly spectacular, and I think it makes sense to omit Tim for some of the younger guys like Aldridge or Davis.
The justification is that those things generally result in a guaranteed spot, unless you completely fall off a cliff. He hasn't, so what other explanation is there? I don't want to hear this pie in the sky nonsense about merit. It's not about merit when the player who's been the best guard in a conference doesn't make it.
I don't know how long you've been following the league, but anyone who knows anything knew Cousins never stood a chance. It didn't matter where he had his team, just like it didn't matter where Dragic had his.
50/50 had the Spurs won. My point is, a single play, in which Duncan had no part in, essentially decided this. I don't see a credible argument for that not being beyond ridiculous.
I realize that, but they should be. It shouldn't matter that Lowry has apparently clashed with damn near any coach he's ever had, whether that one play broke the Spurs way or not, etc.
So what you're really complaining about is that people who shouldn't get spots on ASG rosters get them because of their performance or accolades the prior year.
Dragic is in a PG heavy conference/league. There aren't many big guys like Cousins, and if he had his team in the top seeds, he's in. I've seen absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise.I don't know how long you've been following the league, but anyone who knows anything knew Cousins never stood a chance. It didn't matter where he had his team, just like it didn't matter where Dragic had his.
But they didn't win. Why should anyone pretend they did? There's no 2nd place ring.50/50 had the Spurs won. My point is, a single play, in which Duncan had no part in, essentially decided this. I don't see a credible argument for that not being beyond ridiculous.
You only have so many spots. Everyone cannot get the nod. Let Lowry stay with one team long enough to get some fans.I realize that, but they should be. It shouldn't matter that Lowry has apparently clashed with damn near any coach he's ever had, whether that one play broke the Spurs way or not, etc.
No, I'm complaining because politics factor into this and they shouldn't.
What were you expecting, a press release that detailed why Cousins didn't make it?
Once more, you're missing the point. Why should a single play, in a game from seven months ago, have any bearing on who makes the All-Star game the following season?
He's been one of the best half dozen players in the conference. Why are you still fixated on the fans? Everyone knows that's a popularity contest. I'm speaking strictly about the coaches selections.
Make up your mind it's a fair contract or lopsided ? Not that I care about your final take but I cannot refrain myself to point out your inconsistency.
again Johnny no hard feeling but you obviously know about Parker and on top of that you cannot have an unbiased discussion so let's stop arguing. Carry on and I will do the same
The fact that Tim isn't getting the crooked vote doesn't mean he's getting cheated.
No, I know why he didn't make it. His team wasn't good enough.What were you expecting, a press release that detailed why Cousins didn't make it?
You're looking at it from the wrong side. Why should a last second 3 by Ray Allen be any more important than the 1st 3 of the game? Same 3 point swing. Spurs lost game 7 with Tim playing the 4th quarter and basically playing like . He missed a wide open look right over a smaller defender. You have to factor that in. I realize you think the series ended after Ray Allen's shot, but it didn't. There was still over 50 minutes of ball to play and Spurs still had a chance to win that series.Once more, you're missing the point. Why should a single play, in a game from seven months ago, have any bearing on who makes the All-Star game the following season?
Tim either deserves the nod or he does not. You're pointing out scenarios where he would probably get an undeserved nod and calling it unfair that he didn't get the nod because of one butterfly that changed the future. I'm not going to iron out human nature or cause and effect right here on this forum. Tim wasn't selected because his work this season didn't merit it and there was no weighting of the opinion by a ring ceremony or a trophy presentation.
So Bosh, Hibbert, James, George, Melo and Lowry? lol
So Toronto deserved 2 players in the AS game?
I never said his contract was lopsided. I said he's not living up to it with his half-ass play this season.
Not like your takes are worth a damn. TP's contract is a bargain yet superiors players like Curry are making less than him.
Just stating facts tbh
A Frenchman telling me I can't have an unbiased discussion on a French player
if his contract is a bargain he cannot be lopsided, make up your mindI never said his contract was lopsided. I said he's not living up to it with his half-ass play this season.
Not like your takes are worth a damn. TP's contract is a bargain yet superiors players like Curry are making less than him.
Just stating facts tbh
A Frenchman telling me I can't have an unbiased discussion on a French player
yet curry is fun won so far
ya funny right ?
Carry on Johnny
He is, because that's the way things have always worked. You're confusing that with whether they should work that way or not, which is another argument altogether and therefore irrelevant in this case.
Again, he deserved it, largely because he has the sort of credentials (I'm not just talking career, but recent, team record, etc.) that generally lead to a virtual automatic spot. They did for Nowitzki the season after they won it, they did for Billups for a while after he "deserved it", so why should Duncan be any different?
James, George, Anthony, Hibbert, Lowry and Wade. You can quibble with the order of 3-5, but those have been the best half dozen players in the East this season.
By questioning whether "Toronto deserved 2 All-Stars", you're now admitting to knowing that politics play a role. I wouldn't go so far as to say DeRozan deserved it, but you can easily make the argument they should have gotten two. They're arguably the third best team in the conference.
This has nothing to do with vaginas, it's just downright BS.
Tony doesn't complain to anyone, he just admits that he is gassed and hopes he'll be alright for the playoffs. If he said nothing, some would about him hiding the fact that he's not right. They're just mad that he spent his energy on "BS euro ball" but their tiny mind won't ever be able to grasp that last summer, he wrote himself in the history of the sport in France, in Europe and in all the FIBA world. He's a legend now. So JR can keep whining about the Spurs (who I hope will get another 'chip this season), but we are already grateful for TP.
I think Parker realized 2013 was their last shot, they blew it and so the last thing he was missing was a Euro championship, went all out for it, won it and now is at piece.
No, you're the one who dragged the Finals into this. Tim hasn't been anywhere close to AS level this year.
I think differently but it's all speculation.
Tim didn't win.Again, he deserved it, largely because he has the sort of credentials (I'm not just talking career, but recent, team record, etc.) that generally lead to a virtual automatic spot. They did for Nowitzki the season after they won it, they did for Billups for a while after he "deserved it", so why should Duncan be any different?
So Lowry is better than DeRozan? Better than Chris Bosh? Better than Kyrie Irving?James, George, Anthony, Hibbert, Lowry and Wade. You can quibble with the order of 3-5, but those have been the best half dozen players in the East this season.
Pacers have been the best team and they got 2. The Raptors are barely over 500. They are only a half a game up on the Hawks who only have 1 player represented.By questioning whether "Toronto deserved 2 All-Stars", you're now admitting to knowing that politics play a role. I wouldn't go so far as to say DeRozan deserved it, but you can easily make the argument they should have gotten two. They're arguably the third best team in the conference.
So who does Lowry replace?
Lowry has contributed more to the raptors than derozan^
Lowry
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Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2013-14 27 TOR NBA PG
46 46 36.2 5.4 12.5 .435 2.5 6.3 .401 2.9 6.1 .470 3.3 4.2 .792 0.9 3.3 4.3 7.6 1.6 0.2 2.3 3.3 16.7
DeRozan
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Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2013-14 24 TOR NBA SG 44
44 37.6 7.7 18.0 .427 0.9 3.0 .305 6.8 15.0 .451 5.5 7.0 .785 0.8 3.8 4.6 3.6 1.2 0.5 2.2 2.2 21.7
DeRozan averages 5 more PPG than Lowry and plays roughly the same minutes. How can you say Lowry is better? What are you using as a measuring stick?
Or have you been reduced to the emoticon rebuttal?
DeRozan averages 5 more PPG than Lowry and plays roughly the same minutes. How can you say Lowry is better? What are you using as a measuring stick?
Or have you been reduced to the emoticon rebuttal?
Congratulations on quite possibly the dumbest post I've ever seen.
Anyone that oblivious isn't worthy my time.
Anyone that oblivious isn't worthy my time.
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