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Tim Duncan > Al Jefferson > Tiago Splitter ( At least tonight)
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Tim Duncan > Al Jefferson > Tiago Splitter ( At least tonight)
you'll definitely get no arguments from me on this. it's just that some people actually think splitter is a good player. he's ass. popovich brings the best out of players that would be buried at the end of someone's bench(see danny green)
At only 3 million more for this season and next I'd have done that deal and if he sucked just try to dump the contract to a team that is tanking, as the rule of thumb goes.. people over pay for bigs. He's not great a great defender but his offensive game is light years ahead of Tiago and you can keep him out there beyond certain situations.
remind me again how much ginobli, splitter, and ayres are making combined again
18.5 this season combined.. Jefferson is on a 3 year deal at 13.5 and he took a little bit of a paycut from what he was getting at Utah. I think he was expecting more players for his services in the off-season and who knows maybe the Spurs did make a call but I doubt they did.. They might have been able to sell him on the same kind of deal as Tiago, 4 year deal at 10mil over the 4 years 40m over than the 36 that Tiago is getting.
yeah. it's depressing.
Tiago had a poor game. It happens. Big Al wouldn't work next to Duncan, IMO. His offense is basically a poor-man's version of Tim, and unlike Splitter, he's not mobile and not a defensive banger.
You only have to go 3-4 seasons ago to see Tim couldn't anchor the defense and be effective on offense all by himself. Tiago is simply there to help reduce wear and tear on Tim on the defensive end so Tim has some legs left to be a factor on offense. It's somewhat a similar role that Rasho, Oberto, etc had, but much more important now because Timmy is older. Big Al couldn't play that role unless you give him all of TD's offense, which, well, it's a no-go.
I thought Splitter was fine tonight.
Splitter sucked
worse rebounding than mills
Splitter stinks. It was a typical spurs move to resign him for that lousy contract instead of making a big trade to get a quality big in here.
Yeah, they should have traded 4 draft picks for the privilege of paying 9m/yr to the corpse of Steve Nash like the "best FO in the NBA".
Could have tested the market to see if they could have had something comparable for less or to see if Portland was going to offer him some astronomical deal before committing 36 to him where the bulk of that is when you're trying to get Duncan a ring and you have holes at positions
Portland was ready to sign him to 4yr/36M offer sheet, that's how Splitter got that number. By resigning him before he signed the offer sheet, the Spurs were able to structure the contract with descending annual salaries. Otherwise, they would have had to accept whatever terms Portland included in the offer sheet. Whether or not the contract was too much is obviously up for debate, but the Spurs did let the market set Splitter's price.
The structure of the contract should have been in reverse. You want to maximize as much space as you can during the Duncan era to make sure you have flexibility. Loading it upfront even by a few mil still hurts.
I question the deal because I havent seen a large enough sample size this season to know he will contribute enough come playoff time as pop doesn't play him consistently enough depending on matchups.
The descending contract makes sense for the Spurs. Loading it upfront only hurts if you plan to create a chunk of cap space greater than the MLE. The Spurs didn't do that. Now, Splitter's cap number will be smaller when Duncan and Manu retire and when Kawhi's extension kicks in.
Portland ended up dodging a bullet when SA resigned Tiago. Robin Lopez at 6 mil/year is a of lot better than Tiago at 9 mil/year.
It makes sense down the line if they intend to stay compe ive after Duncan and try to get into playoff mode which is possible and with the new CBA you'd think that it would be hard to unload Tiago at a higher rate but that's what I'd probably do once Duncan is done. Tiago compliments Duncan well but if he's gone I'm trying to drop him off for some kind of draft pick and cap relief so I can reload, at that point Tiago might make sense to a fringe team trying to get some kind of interior help. It will be curious to see what the Spurs offer Diaw this summer because he has been more instrumental than Splitter to the team overall with or without Duncan on the floor.
Robin Lopez was a steal, the guy is built for the half-court set. He's young, durable and has improved his stats every year which is a sign that he's getting it especially with more playing time. Lopez would have fit nicely with the Spurs, he's quick enough to defend around the basket or move out and help on jump shooting bigs just long enough before Diaw gets into the game. He's also a bit tougher in the low block and he has some post moves not to mention he's been working on his actual outside shot.
I don't know if they tell Splitter not to take that 16 foot jumper but he could have that all day every day when he sets a pick and pops out rather than rolling which would force a big to come out and guard him at least show a little opening the lane up for parker or mills more or a slashing Kawhi.
Splitter was fine on defense but his shot was not falling. He hit yet another outside jumper though.
Splitter can hit some threes too. When he was Young, the brazilian under-anything teem wanted him to be like a brazilian Dirk, but when he gone to Spain, they made him play with the back to the basket...
Exactly. Given the math going into the Manu deal, there was going to be limited cap space either way in the short-term. Best to maximize it come 2016, when Splitter's contract will be an attractive 2 year / $17 million deal. I imagine the team will look to give Kawhi a reasonable extension too next season and keep Parker around for similar money to his current deal.
Those three guys for $30 million would be a nice foundation going forward, with another $30 million to spread around on the rest of the roster - without having traded ANY first round picks and having guys in Europe that have a (small) chance to contribute in the future. Parker has been one of the most underpaid players in the league for some time now, just as Duncan has been. Not sure if that can be attributed to the character of the guys, or to them buying into what the front office has built ...
In retrospect, the Lopez deal is an absolute steal but as I've noted before there was no guarantee the team could have gotten him (Portland dealt for him in the Tyreke S&T). Worst case, they would have ended up with nobody. Lopez was NOT coming here without giving up another chip.
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