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Grow up.
You're really horrible when it comes to basketball discussions. You should quit posting since you can't come up with anything of value.
My opinions aren't flexible enough. I don't care about 2011. I don't care about him padding rebounding numbers in 2011. I don't care about his defense in 2011. I don't care that you literally searched "Kevin Love defense" and linked the first video.
I'm not the one lying to myself, it doesn't matter to me. You live how you want to live.
Myself, I'd at least post something from this year. I can help you with that one.
But there are also times when he is no more than a traffic cone. While he's starting to curb his tendency to go for rebounding position instead of contesting shots, it is still an issue from time to time. How can he not contest this Mike Miller drive when he's coming right by him?
(Just to hit on the rebounding deal you're talking about which apparently isn't a big issue anymore)
This guy from SBNation even expanded on that to actually talk about Kevin Love's defensive problems with videos highlighting his strengths and many more highlighting his weaknesses.
The bottom line:
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/2/5...n-kevin-durantLove is far from the only star who doesn't always hustle back on defense. Dwyane Wadehas long been a towering figure in the I'll-get-there-when-I-get-there scene, as haveCarmelo Anthony and, at least last season, John Wall. But Love's lack of effort has been the most glaring this year and is the main reason why Minnesota has been blitzed in transition in several losses this season. The Timberwolves are a slow team in general, but they still shouldn't be this bad at transition defense. Love is the biggest reason why they are.
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Season Age Tm Lg Pos G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2008-09 20 MIN NBA C 81 37 25.3 3.9 8.5 .459 0.0 0.2 .105 3.9 8.3 .469 3.3 4.1 .789 3.4 5.7 9.1 1.0 0.4 0.6 1.5 2.5 11.1 2009-10 21 MIN NBA PF 60 22 28.6 4.9 10.8 .450 0.6 1.8 .330 4.3 9.0 .474 3.8 4.6 .815 3.8 7.2 11.0 2.3 0.7 0.4 2.0 2.3 14.0 2010-11 ★ 22 MIN NBA PF 73 73 35.8 6.6 14.1 .470 1.2 2.9 .417 5.4 11.2 .483 5.8 6.8 .850 4.5 10.7 15.2 2.5 0.6 0.4 2.1 2.0 20.2 2011-12 ★ 23 MIN NBA PF 55 55 39.0 8.6 19.3 .448 1.9 5.1 .372 6.7 14.1 .475 6.9 8.4 .824 4.1 9.2 13.3 2.0 0.9 0.5 2.3 2.8 26.0 2012-13 24 MIN NBA PF 18 18 34.3 5.8 16.6 .352 1.1 5.1 .217 4.7 11.4 .413 5.6 7.9 .704 3.6 10.4 14.0 2.3 0.7 0.5 2.2 1.9 18.3 2013-14 ★ 25 MIN NBA PF 54 54 36.3 8.6 18.5 .464 2.4 6.3 .380 6.2 12.2 .507 7.0 8.5 .821 3.2 10.0 13.2 4.1 0.8 0.4 2.4 1.9 26.6 Career NBA 341 259 32.5 6.3 13.8 .452 1.1 3.1 .361 5.1 10.8 .478 5.2 6.4 .815 3.8 8.5 12.3 2.3 0.7 0.5 2.0 2.3 18.8
What's changed in Love's game over the past 4 years to make this year's Kevin Love any better than 2011 or 2012 version?
His game hasn't changed. Unless you can show that his game has changed, what I posted is valid. His stats indicate his game hasn't changed. If I can show that his greatest rebounding year was a poor defensive performance year, that's relevant to his ability to pull down rebounds this year as well.
I'm not the one lying to myself, it doesn't matter to me. You live how you want to live.
Myself, I'd at least post something from this year. I can help you with that one.
Oh he doesn't have defensive problems. He's a stat padder. Matt Bonner has defensive problems. Kevin Love can be in position for a rebound, he can be in position for a defensive stand, but he chooses the former because there are no stats for good defense that can be touted in a box score.
(Just to hit on the rebounding deal you're talking about which apparently isn't a big issue anymore)
This guy from SBNation even expanded on that to actually talk about Kevin Love's defensive problems with videos highlighting his strengths and many more highlighting his weaknesses.
That link doesn't work for me.
Regardless, Kevin Love chooses to slack off at just the right moment on defense so that it's not painfully apparent during the flow of the game, and his stats look monstrous. Everyone else is defending, but not Kevin, he's fighting his own dude for a rebound.
If you're saying his rebounds numbers are inflated because he cheats off his man to establish position, doesn't it make sense that if his rebound numbers go down it's because he's not cheating off his man as much? Realistically, there's probably too many factors to make it that simple though.
Or if you want me to prove it another way, what evidence would convince you that he plays differently? (Alternatively, what actually convinced you that he does it in the first place?) I can try to find something for you either way.
And I think he does have defensive problems...in the same way that people said Melo had defensive problems when he was in Denver. He just doesn't care about defending even though he's capable of doing it. He does stat pad, but I think that's a lesser knock on his game vs his defense. No evidence for this at all, but it looks to me that he "knows" when he's going to get beat, so he gives up before that to try to get the rebound. I don't think he's actively trying to make his team worse, he just isn't really motivated to make it better. A good coach could fix some of these habits.
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