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I really don't think Pop is naive......sad thing is you know that. This has you questioning your whole belief system
When there is a candidate and party that support:
1. Getting illegals out of the country.
2. Letting a person decide what they want to do with their body.
3. Allow the right to bear arms.
4. Allow any sex the right to be together and be happy.
5. Stop being the police of the world.
6. Stop giving aid to countries that hate us.
7. Reduce welfare and make the freeloaders get a job.
8. Make the rich pay their fair share of tax.
9. Term limits on all politicians.
10. Healthcare fixed from the mess it is now.
11. Every racial slur banned or none at all.....that includes the word "redneck".
...until you have a candidate and party for the people that would support these for starters...this country will continue to fail under the idiots that support the Democratic and Republican parties.
I really don't think Pop is naive......sad thing is you know that. This has you questioning your whole belief system
I have news for you, comrade. Pop is not a lib.I really don't think Pop is naive......sad thing is you know that. This has you questioning your whole belief system
Skull is the king of binary thinking. Has he started name dropping people that he helped get out of airplanes yet?
This is fine by me... this is more of a center position... the problem nowadays though is that if you come up with a position like that, you "compromised", you're squishy/RINO...
Yeah.....sucks for people like me. We watch as the extremists on the left and right try and destroy each other with our nation as collateral damage.
This is pretty ing ignorant. When did the US become a hegemony? Was it during the time of laissez faire as you pretend?Yes, because America became great through high taxes, over regulation, appeasement, and a lack of confidence coupled with a "you didn't build that" at ude.
"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things. Not because they are easy, but because they are hard" got replaced with "It isn't fair I am a poor lazy slob. Give me free stuff now. America sucks. The rest of the world is better than we are. Pride in yourself and your country is a vice. Racist!"
It wasn't but by all means regurgitate the RNC narrative like a mindless buffoon.
truthbombs"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things. Not because they are easy, but because they are hard" got replaced with "It isn't fair I am a poor lazy slob. Give me free stuff now. America sucks. The rest of the world is better than we are. Pride in yourself and your country is a vice. Racist!"
He donates regularly to the Democratic party which by US political standards is the liberal party. Cognitive dissonance is a .
Individual liberty? Thats a nice catch phrase thats gets real blurry after some thought. Republicans idea of liberty is only the strong survive, which gets us right back to tyranny. The only liberty we have is the right to vote, where everybody has a say no matter their lot in life and unfortunately sometimes level of intelligence. And because the government voted in is a government that will take care of the poor more than the other, a bigger government will happen. This is the government as you said, "ensuring our individual liberties". It is what it is.
Also the market does well with regulation something the right wing want nothing to do with.
He's donated to both parties, my friend. He doesn't identify with either party. Cognitive dissonance is a is it not, fuzzy dumbass?
You're generalizing to a ridiculous extent. This country has not been trending downward simply due to the actions of its marginalized people. You want a good idea as to why things have unfolded the way the have? Just follow the money. Reagan wasn't the demigod that right wingers make him out to be, the same way that Clinton wasn't the superhero president that many on the left believe him to be. The truth about those two men, as with many things in politics, lies somewhere in between the two extremes, but getting to that point is difficult.
Just about all of your posts in this thread have been very black and white "company line" right wing statements. Life and society are very complex, and in order for the Free Market and more reserved government approach to work (one with virtually no regulations, etc.), the individuals in a society need to show a certain level of altruism and develop a certain level of education/understanding. Unfortunately, America is sorely lacking in both, and has been for some time.
Our quality/efficacy of education is plummeting, and because of our "melting pot" status, we are now filled with groups of people who are too busy igniting class/racial warfare to stop and work with one another to achieve common goals.
"It's my hard-working money, why give it to someone who is just going to freeload?" "They're just a bunch of capitalist pigs," and on and on ad nauseum.
Also, this next comment is not just for Skull: If your go-to move in political discussion is to whine about politicians, and you've never made any attempt to contact your rep/senator, participate in political forums, or vote for anything outside of president, then please STFU. You're part of the problem.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...ans-of-the-nba
ESPN says otherwise.
So does Sports Illustrated.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...72/2/index.htm
Have any more stories to tell?
This (although I'd change 1. to "better stop illegals from getting in")...
...and this!
Last edited by TDfan2007; 02-27-2014 at 10:41 PM.
I'll say this about Pop's political views: Pop is a very worldly, well-learned, intelligent, and thoughtful individual, so I have no doubt that his political ideals are VERY informed. That's all that I would ask of anyone, regardless of where their views lie. I highly doubt that Pop is a complete liberal on every issue, but rather a majority of his views may align with that side. No need to hate. I doubt anyone spewing derisive comments in this thread would fare well in a political debate with him...
Oh, I see. Well, there have been other demographic shifts. But back then it was sink or swim and we occasionally took a pause to assimilate people. Now we pander and create subcultures that Balkanize. It is the end of the nation.
To your other point, the ACA is the ultimate class warfare issue as only the elites will be able to get care with it. But the ignorant new immigrants don't know any better so they keep pulling the D lever and the Rs are afraid to be called names so they fold like lawn chairs...
Last edited by Skull-1; 02-27-2014 at 10:50 PM.
Of course. Binary pigeonholing is an oversimplification that the ignorant and stupid hold onto. That being said he donates to the DNC and calls himself a liberal.
You have to love the fear of the older white male. It's pretty sad really.
The bottom 50% should start paying at least 1 penny of federal income tax, IMO. They pay $0 currently.
It isn't the government's job to equalize outcomes.
Voting is tyranny of the majority. We are a REPUBLIC not a democracy. If you want liberal big government move to California. But you have no right to dictate to Wyoming what it does.
We the people are supposed to be free to pursue happiness. It isn't the role of the government to "spread the wealth around". Equality of opportunity not outcome. If you want equal outcome try North Korea.
As the government grows liberty declines. Period. If you want that crap go to China.
No words should be banned. That's like religious book burning. Words are words to be used as one sees fit.
This isnt a truth bomb so much as just the truth. Neither left nor right, just scientific, except the last paragraph
Cap it at ten percent. Start at one and work your way up. If the Feds can't get'r done with that...tough.
He donated $2000 one time to the failed presidential bid of John Edwards back in 2000 and to BO in 2008. Hardly makes him a shill for democrats. The author of the sports illustrated article never actually quoted Pop saying that he was a liberal. He took literary license with that statement. Pop has also supported George Bush when he ran for Governor and while he was President. Attending various functions in support of his policies, especially after 9/11. I was at two functions in SA where he actually introduced Bush at an event at Sunset Station. He's a political mutt, self-admittedly.
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