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    "'That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,' Cindy said."

    That's a really weird thing to credit the president for. It sounds like she practically worshipped him on that occasion and that is just bizarre. The president should be neither worshipped nor villified. First she views him as some kind of angel, now he's a devil. This woman is starting to sound bipolar to me.
    I'm still asking...what does the father have to say?

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    She's grieving... I'm not going to judge the degrees of her reactions over the past year.

    I am going to judge the perpetuators of the inevitable circus that is going to form around her over the next couple of weeks, though.

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    She's grieving... I'm not going to judge the degrees of her reactions over the past year.

    I am going to judge the perpetuators of the inevitable circus that is going to form around her over the next couple of weeks, though.
    The anti-war movement has been waiting for someone like Sheehan. It takes much bravado to do what she is doing and people with like causes are going to be attracted to her message. It will turn into a circus if not diffused, but its a message for peace. Is that so bad?

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    No, it's not. I happen to believe it is American dissent at its finest. Unfortunately, she is going to be sucked dry from partisans on both sides who will lionize and villify her simultaneously.

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    The anti-war movement has been waiting for someone like Sheehan. It takes much bravado to do what she is doing and people with like causes are going to be attracted to her message. It will turn into a circus if not diffused, but its a message for peace. Is that so bad?
    Wanting peace is a great thing...but it's not something you are likely to get until both sides want it. If you just want to be slaughtered or enslaved which is what happens when only one side wants peace...then go ahead and do...no one is preventing you from doing it. But the rest of us don't want that.

    Where the anti-war movement is severely misguided is in thinking that everyone just wants to sit around and sing kumbuya with each other. That is not the way the world is Dan. That is not the way Radical Islam is Dan...

    And if those countries over there can't control their incredibly dark anti-life movement calling itself Islam...then we have the right to go over there and kick the living out of them until they are tired of fighting, ...or dead. Our society being progressive and technologically advanced gives us that right. Such is the way of nature...

    The detriment comes from our anti-war movement which prevents us from fully utlizing our full force to exterminate our enemies...

    Still..I respect the peaceful voice and would never want to see it silenced...for without it the only voice would be violence...but that doesn't mean an Anti-War Stance is always right...anymore than a pro-war stance is always right...in fact, there are very few stances and philosophies that are always right.

    Meanwhile...the left has become ideologically hysterical...it's not so much what you are saying...but how you are saying it...and the vile and venom that you are saying it with hardly comes off as a peaceful movement...and the resulting reaction from the majority of Americans has been similar to what a normal person would do when dealing with a hysterical person...listen to them as long as possible...and then slap them upside the head so they'll get a ing grip.

    The fact that W sits in the white house now was the American people slapping the hysteria of the left upside the head...All you had to do was sit there and W would have been gone....instead you made yourself worse than he was. Nobody wants a bunch of nut jobs running the country...they'll take the greedy sane ones every time.

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    Wanting peace is a great thing...but it's not something you are likely to get until both sides want it. If you just want to be slaughtered or enslaved which is what happens when only one side wants peace...then go ahead and do...no one is preventing you from doing it. But the rest of us don't want that.

    Where the anti-war movement is severely misguided is in thinking that everyone just wants to sit around and sing kumbuya with each other. That is not the way the world is Dan. That is not the way Radical Islam is Dan...

    And if those countries over there can't control their incredibly dark anti-life movement calling itself Islam...then we have the right to go over there and kick the living out of them until they are tired of fighting, ...or dead. Our society being progressive and technologically advanced gives us that right. Such is the way of nature...

    The detriment comes from our anti-war movement which prevents us from fully utlizing our full force to exterminate our enemies...

    Still..I respect the peaceful voice and would never want to see it silenced...for without it the only voice would be violence...but that doesn't mean an Anti-War Stance is always right...anymore than a pro-war stance is always right...in fact, there are very few stances and philosophies that are always right.

    Meanwhile...the left has become ideologically hysterical...it's not so much what you are saying...but how you are saying it...and the vile and venom that you are saying it with hardly comes off as a peaceful movement...and the resulting reaction from the majority of Americans has been similar to what a normal person would do when dealing with a hysterical person...listen to them as long as possible...and then slap them upside the head so they'll get a ing grip.

    The fact that W sits in the white house now was the American people slapping the hysteria of the left upside the head...All you had to do was sit there and W would have been gone....instead you made yourself worse than he was. Nobody wants a bunch of nut jobs running the country...they'll take the greedy sane ones every time.
    Good post. Thus my point that the "left" has become a "bad thing" to be. And notice the reference of "the left" as a bad thing.
    Not everyone on the "left" fits the description of what conservatives want everyone to think the "left" is.
    No more than "conservative" means bible-thumping, NASCAR race watching, gun-toting, anti-immigrant, neocon war hawks.

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    Wanting peace is a great thing...but it's not something you are likely to get until both sides want it. If you just want to be slaughtered or enslaved which is what happens when only one side wants peace...then go ahead and do...no one is preventing you from doing it. But the rest of us don't want that.

    Where the anti-war movement is severely misguided is in thinking that everyone just wants to sit around and sing kumbuya with each other. That is not the way the world is Dan. That is not the way Radical Islam is Dan...

    And if those countries over there can't control their incredibly dark anti-life movement calling itself Islam...then we have the right to go over there and kick the living out of them until they are tired of fighting, ...or dead. Our society being progressive and technologically advanced gives us that right. Such is the way of nature...

    The detriment comes from our anti-war movement which prevents us from fully utlizing our full force to exterminate our enemies...
    We tried that approach once in Vietnam. Dropped more tonnage of bombs than we did in all of WW2 and look where it got us. We are losing the peace in Iraq because we didn't take the time to research the culture and understand the complete geo-political situation in the region before we went in, but I regress.

    People want peace. It wasn't Saddam Hussein or Iraq who attacked or were any way, shape, or form planning to attack the U.S. or it's interest. And that's what it all comes down too. We attacked a country that had no WMD's. No plan to attack the U.S. and was not involved in international terrorism or Al Queda. Before we start spewing venom about how vile those 'Islamists' are, maybe we ought to take some time and look at our own actions in the region. Did our invasion plans have the safety of the Iraqi people and their resources protected? Was there a plan to reduce the number of civilian casualties? Did we guard weapons depots left empty by retreating Saddam forces? Why did we disband Saddam's army and his police force only to later have to recall elements of the Army because of lawless-ness and the growing insurgency.

    It's never our fault with you war-mongers.

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    The Vacaville Reporter article has been removed from Sheehan's website. (Though it's still referenced on the Home Page)

    Fortunately, the Reporter's website has re-published it here.

    http://www.thereporter.com/search/ci_2923921

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    Dammit, I was going to make a post asking how long it will take for that article to come down.

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    Let's keep our ears open to see if she claims the US government had illegally posted it on her website(so people arguing on message boards could use it against her)...or if it never gets mentioned again.

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    Let's keep our ears open to see if she claims the US government had illegally posted it on her website(so people arguing on message boards could use it against her)...or if it never gets mentioned again.
    No big conspiracy. As I told you before, the report Sperminator link to looked unauthorized. With the number of hits the column is generating it was only a matter of time before the original author cracked down on unauthorized publication.

    What does the column prove? That Sheehan had reservations about the Iraq war in 04 despite making semi-delusional statements to the contrary?

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    What would be the point of putting an unauthorized copy of the article on Sheehan's personal website? Particularly since no one seemed to know about it? Wouldn't this have been broken on Drudge too?

    Anyway, it's still referenced on the site...


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    Wait, nevermind, you're saying the paper contacted Sheehan and had it removed. I see what you're getting at now. At least I hope...

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    Bush enjoyed his 321st day of vacation yesterday since taking office in January 2001.
    Rumors that the president is attempting to honor each and every fallen G.I. in Iraq by
    taking a day off in their honor have been flatly denied.

    A statistician from Cal State has shown any such attempt would be impossible.

    "Bush could take the rest of his second term off starting tomorrow and it wouldn't begin
    to approach the number of fallen soldiers. This is not counting the number of our military
    members who will die between now and the end of Bush's remaining term!" he added.

    Thank God for term limits.

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    Yes, more with the vacation bit. Because it's so relevant.

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    Don't join if you don't want uncle sam to own your ass. It says it on the papers you sign...

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    he cares so much he's going on vacation...again
    This isn't Wal-Mart. He doesn't have a register to tend. Like most upper-level jobs, the President can do his job with a cell phone and email.

    Why is it that some of you cannot comprehend "working from home"? Is it a deliberate act? Are you trying to fool the LCD with lowbrow rhetoric, or are you one of them?

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    Day 3: Letter from Cindy Sheehan

    Where do I begin?

    Today was a highly eventful day. This entry won’t be artful, but utilitarian.

    I conservatively got 3 to 5 phone calls a minute. I did about 25 phone interviews and several TV interviews. I did several right-wing radio interviews. I was supposed to do: The Today Show, MSNBC live interview, Connected Coast to Coast (MSNBC) and Hardball (MSNBC). The Today Show just never showed up and the other 3 MSNBC shows cancelled for no reason.

    Another big story that was going on today was about my first meeting with Bush in June of 2004. For you all I would like to clarify a few things. First of all, I did meet with George, and that is not a secret. I have written about it and been interviewed about it. I will stand by my recounting of the meeting. His behavior was rude and inappropriate. My behavior in June of 2004 is irrelevant to what is going on in 2005. I was in deep shock and deep grief. The grief is still there, but the shock has worn off and the deep anger has set in. And to remind everybody, a few things have happened since June of 2004: The 9/11 commission report; the Senate Intelligence report; the Duelfer WMD report; and most damaging and criminal: the Downing Street Memos. The VERY LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS IS: Why do the right wing media so assiduously scrutinize the words of a grief filled mother and ignore the words of a lying president?
    Meet With Cindy

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    Bush works for me
    and i dont think this is a time to take a vacation

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    Why is it that some of you cannot comprehend "working from home"?
    I thought it was a vacation?

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    his home is Kennebunkport Maine, offically
    sorry i cant spell Kennebunkport

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    Bush should be like all those Democratic Presidents who never took vacations during wars...like um...................

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    unlimited vacations for all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
    war is hard on a president
    he needs his corridor

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    Michael Moore tell us how to think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As you make millions and get ever and ever fatter off the dead of 911 and the subsequent wars.

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    Moore doesnt tell me
    look up how many books he sold pre 9/11 and how much his movies made pre 9/11
    bush got a whole term from it
    and then he got to invade iraq
    PROFIT buddy

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