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    The French mother ers declared war on the Reich, not otherwise tbh. The Fuhrer apparently overestimated the West's tolerance, he thought the West wouldn't dare to fight him even if he attacked Poland but he was wrong. Now more than half a century later when you look back at the war, you can easily conclude that the UK was the culprit of all. The Reich was actively seeking peace with the UK after the foundation of the Vichy France (before the Reich declared war on Russia), but the British s refused. It was the UK that shut the door of peace imho. The Fuhrer would be stupid to fight a war on two fronts voluntarily, he tried to negotiate a truce with Britain but the fat old penguin didn't give a about Hitler's offer of peace. the British s tbh, they're equal evil as Japan.
    Of course France/UK declared War on the Reich and not vice versa but what did their empty declaration do? The Phony War. After Germany's surprisingly easy victory over France, Hitler's judgement was forever clouded with arrogance.

    I just think Hitler failed at Step #1. What was really gained by siding with Stalin? At that moment the Nazis would only decline (except for Moral) while the Soviets grew in strength. I agree with your points, Hitler wasn't planning global or even continental conquering. He got drunk with how easily he was sweeping thru the West. But my point is UK/France showed their promise to Poland was empty. Once Germany started toppling France, it was just a matter of time before the USA was forced to join. And Hitler knew he couldn't trust Stalin. So ultimately the 1st Step failed. Poland themselves had been having social issues with their enormous Jewish population and had fought (Defeated) the Russians just 18 years prior. If Hitler bent the Aryan playbook for Herzegovina (full rights under the Reich) and especially Japan, why the heavy hand against Poland? If it's because Poland arrogantly declined his "unreasonable" alliance offer (Give up Gdansk and prob more later) then I can understand Hitler's bitterness. Poland was and has been through out it's history poor in political relations.

    Did Poland make the right decision? By not siding with Hitler (who approached them before siding with Stalin) they took the brunt of both powerhouses. 70 years later Poland "made the right decision" in hindsight but that is a credit to the resilience of the Polish people who were left to steady decline under the Iron Wall. To be the first to stand up to the Nazis and end up handed over by the West to the Soviets was truly cruel. In my scenario together (with Ukraine & Soviet Partisans, even Japan) the USSR is defeated. Jews are shipped to Gulags to work. The West never comes to the rescue of the Russians. A Central/Eastern European powerhouse is built. But Hitler wanted everything so quickly and IMO failed at Step #1. Ultimately he miscalculated the resilience of the Slavic people. Who are now increasingly the last pure White nations remaining.

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    I'm against the death penalty, tbh.... unlike jailtime, if someone is wrongfully executed, there's no going back, and execution actually costs more in taxpayer $$$ than a life sentence....
    I agree with you but if they did have death penalty, i would want it to only be in cases with overwhelming evidence and no chance it could be wrong and the execution be done quickly and without appeals. Since the main cost is because of the appeals process.

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    I'm against the death penalty, tbh.... unlike jailtime, if someone is wrongfully executed, there's no going back, and execution actually costs more in taxpayer $$$ than a life sentence....
    There is no reason as to why it should cost more. I don't remember people complaining about the guillotine being painful or expensive.

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    If a guy is found guilty today, tomorrow the gas chamber. Why wait?

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    There is no reason as to why it should cost more. I don't remember people complaining about the guillotine being painful or expensive.
    The long, drawn-out court cases required before execution can be done - which STILL don't eliminate wrongful executions, by the way - add on expensive legal fees that push the costs higher, tbh....

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    If a guy is found guilty today, tomorrow the gas chamber. Why wait?
    Wrongful execution rates would skyrocket if that was the policy, dumbass

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    Wrongful execution rates would skyrocket if that was the policy, dumbass
    You wait longer to go to court ya ing moron, you make damn sure he was the guy. Dude, nobody should be this ing stupid.

    No think stupid, how many meals do us tax payers need to pay for?

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    The Reich needed to expand its land area imho (by the time the war on Poland began, the Reich's map was still not much bigger than what today's Germany is), and Poland was the only neighboring country to serve that purpose (with Czech-Slovakia already annexed). So I agree with you that it was Poland that made the horrible mistake which cost their own sovereignty as a nation. After Poland was defeated, von Manstein suggested to the Fuhrer that they should erect a puppet government in Poland, making Poland a puppet country under the Reich and a buffer between Russia and the Reich, but the Fuhrer declined Manstein's proposals. I think the war vs. Russia was one that the Fuhrer had planned in advance, a war that he thought inevitable. A puppet between the two giants wouldn't make much sense if longterm peace was not the goal.

    So here is my point, the UK were the true culprit who aggravated a potential war between Reich and Russia into a global scourge. The mother ers could've accepted Hitler's peace offer and the rest of the world would have a joyful time watching the Reich and commies fighting each other to guts. It was the old-fashioned colonialism and their stupid arrogance that deluded them into thinking they could/should fight the Germans and end up on the winning side again like the Great War. But we know how the true story evolved, the British s shat their pants just like the French s did and they would've starved to death without the US supplies.

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    You wait longer to go to court ya ing moron, you make damn sure he was the guy. Dude, nobody should be this ing stupid.

    No think stupid, how many meals do us tax payers need to pay for?
    If only we could turn them into productive slaves.

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    I doubt that.
    Sounds like troll baiting to me.
    If I had it before, why wouldn't I still have it?

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    There is nothing beautiful about being obese/fat. If you're fat, I automatically assume you have 0 will power

    and are lazy.

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    i'm also all of the other s you love arguing with tbh imho
    No, their shtick is lamer.

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    There is no reason as to why it should cost more. I don't remember people complaining about the guillotine being painful or expensive.
    It costs more because of the appeals process. Not because the electric chair costs more to operate than a giant razor blade.

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    The schticks here that have no other purpose than to be outrageous are boring as .

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    If only we could turn them into productive slaves.
    Then we'd still have to feed them. You want them out of the system as soon as possible, there is no wait, once found guilty....gone!

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    It costs more because of the appeals process. Not because the electric chair costs more to operate than a giant razor blade.
    And without the appeals process, there wouldn't even be a possibility of clearing someone later based on new DNA or eyewitness evidence, leading to even more wrongful executions - yet the appeals process itself doesn't even always protect against it.... it's a catch-22, which is why the death penalty just doesn't work in practice....

    Another myth related to this: contrary to popular opinion, according to prisoners who have lived on both, death row is actually less dangerous and better than gen pop.... in gen pop, prisoners' risks of being raped, beaten and killed skyrockets....

    My question is this: why do legitimate candidates for the death penalty deserve the extra tax dollars being spent on them, the less dangerous living arrangements, and the easy way out of quick death?

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    Didn't read.

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    ^ butthurt because popular opinion is to girls that are of age

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    ^ butthurt because popular opinion is to girls that are of age
    Dude....THEY WERE OF AGE....ok ya dumb ? They were...WORKING IN BARS...ok stupid?

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    Dude....THEY WERE OF AGE....ok ya dumb ? They were...WORKING IN BARS...ok stupid?

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    No need to cry over being stupid little guy. You'll figure things out once you get over puberty.

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    What is all over his face?


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    The schticks here that have no other purpose than to be outrageous are boring as .
    You say that as if those with the sole purpose of outrageousness aren't also boring as .

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    Too bad. He answered your question.

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    And without the appeals process, there wouldn't even be a possibility of clearing someone later based on new DNA or eyewitness evidence, leading to even more wrongful executions - yet the appeals process itself doesn't even always protect against it.... it's a catch-22, which is why the death penalty just doesn't work in practice....

    Another myth related to this: contrary to popular opinion, according to prisoners who have lived on both, death row is actually less dangerous and better than gen pop.... in gen pop, prisoners' risks of being raped, beaten and killed skyrockets....

    My question is this: why do legitimate candidates for the death penalty deserve the extra tax dollars being spent on them, the less dangerous living arrangements, and the easy way out of quick death?
    tbh you know more about this than I do, but if some ooga booga gangbanger from South LA walks in, murdering 7 people and gets a life sentence, I'm guessing prison is practically paradise for him. Not like life in prison is that bad for some high profile gang member who probably gets respect from everybody as soon as he walks in. Those guys should just be put to death quickly.

    However, I think that some stinky camel er terrorist should always be thrown in with the general population. Just let Bubba and Big Tim have their way with him, and let him get in his intestines ripped from his scrotum and die a horrible, painful death. This guy already wants to be a martyr, let's not have him lie down peacefully and majestically be put to sleep like he's our beloved dog or something. Make him die a slow death.

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