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    If you look at the staring positions available, you probably have the Heat (no way Mills go there), Knicks, Bucks and Hornets as teams needing a PG (taking into account the Magic draft Exum and Lakers draft Smart w Nash staring still). Mills is not a type of guy to go to a team to just start and his whole team sucks, especially since the Spurs are more than likely will match any offers to the MLE.

    Mills loves his teammates. Mills gets minutes, he gets recognition (Pop even called him the 6th man off the bench this year), he gets respect with the Spurs. With Tony age and health being a question the last couple of years, the Spurs need Mills, plain and simple.
    Both the Heat and Lakers scare me as destinations for him. I could see the Lakers drafting a Cody Powers, Aaron Gordon, or Julius Randle, and offering Patty the starting PG spot next to Kobe, offering the glitz of LA and a direct flight to Australia.

    I think the Heat definitely make a run at Patty and/or Neal to provide some additional shooting at the PG spot, particularly if Ray Allen retires and since the Heat PG doesn't handle quite as much as on other teams.

    Those are the two that worry me most, and I think Mills is more important than most realize as instance offense off the bench and a reliable backup to Tony. I'm not ready to trust CoJo with that job full-time, and worry the Spurs will undervalue Mills because they know they still have Joseph on the roster.

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    fisher!

    spurs should do everything in there power to keep patty.

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    Savage compe ors like Mills do not grow on trees. It is imperative that the Spurs re-sign him. Not only does he shoot well, but he plays hard...

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    Just for comparison, Matt Bonner's expiring is 3.9 million. We obviously drastically overpaid for him, but Mills is probably worth right around 4, give or take a few hundred thousand.

    I'm sorry, I LOVE Patty, but I can't see him being worth 6 mil a year in this guard loaded league. He's a fantastic player, but he hasn't shown the ability to grind out games over the season and still be a huge factor come playoff time.

    Hope we keep them both. Patty would be a bargain under 3.5 mil. Anything more than 4.5 and you're starting to take up serious cap room.
    That just means everything should be fine:
    - give Bonner's salary to Patty ($3.9m)
    - use Diaw's ($4.7m) + Patty's ($1.1m) current salaries to resign Diaw ($5.8m)
    - use whatever spare change there is to sign Bonner to the vet minimum if he wants to come back, or give him a FO/coaching position

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    The Knicks are a hopeless mess. Would Patty want to toil in the misery of losing team in shambles for a bit more cash or could we just give him a longer term deal since he's still super young?

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    That just means everything should be fine:
    - give Bonner's salary to Patty ($3.9m)
    - use Diaw's ($4.7m) + Patty's ($1.1m) current salaries to resign Diaw ($5.8m)
    - use whatever spare change there is to sign Bonner to the vet minimum if he wants to come back, or give him a FO/coaching position
    A bit steep for Diaw for me, but he's worth it. I'm just hoping we can sign Patty for $3m, Diaw for $5m, and then make a run at a very serviceable 10th player to really make our team ridiculously deep. It would be fun to switch around our starters and bench players for a game to give our starters a breather and let our 2nd 5 build a 20 point lead by halftime against some of the other top teams in the league.

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    If you were a young player would you pass up the opportunity to be a starter if it's offered? Its kind of the same way it was with coach Bud, and Brett Brown. I would hate to see him go but I also would totally understand if he does.
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    Just for comparison, Matt Bonner's expiring is 3.9 million. We obviously drastically overpaid for him, but Mills is probably worth right around 4, give or take a few hundred thousand.

    I'm sorry, I LOVE Patty, but I can't see him being worth 6 mil a year in this guard loaded league. He's a fantastic player, but he hasn't shown the ability to grind out games over the season and still be a huge factor come playoff time.

    Hope we keep them both. Patty would be a bargain under 3.5 mil. Anything more than 4.5 and you're starting to take up serious cap room.
    Matt earned all his money in the Thunder series by spreading the floor. He didn't have to really do anything.

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    Don't the Spurs have his Bird rights?
    Yes, they supposedly do.

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    A bit steep for Diaw for me, but he's worth it. I'm just hoping we can sign Patty for $3m, Diaw for $5m, and then make a run at a very serviceable 10th player to really make our team ridiculously deep. It would be fun to switch around our starters and bench players for a game to give our starters a breather and let our 2nd 5 build a 20 point lead by halftime against some of the other top teams in the league.
    Actually I feel quite a few teams would consider $6m for Diaw quite cheap. He was the runner-up Finals MVP and creates so many match-up headaches for the opponent... I believe he could easily get paid in the $8-9m range elsewhere. He wanted to play for the Spurs so he signed a 2y contract for whatever the Spurs could give him. He'll probably negotiate a bit harder this time, while still being ready to take a paycut to play with Tony and have a shot at more championships.

    Re: the serviceable 10th player, I think the Spurs should try to trade Ayres. He's actually a decent end of the bench big. Maybe the Spurs could get an underperforming SF whose defensive ceiling hasn't been noticed by most scouts yet (obviously I don't have a name to put forward, I'm just waiting for the FO to amaze me yet again )

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    Not gonna lie, I could definitely see Patty getting Jarrett Jack type money ($6.3 million/year) to be a 6th man for some other team. I really hope he sticks with us for $3-4 million, though. Not only would we miss his on-court play, but he's one of those glue guys in the locker room that just improves the overall morale of the team.

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    If Patty leaves it's because he is wants to be the starting PG. The money has to be very significant too for another team to steal him from the Spurs. Cost of living and state taxes would just even out most likely with a minor pay raise in another city.

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    I don't see why he'd want to play for Derek Fisher
    Absolutely!
    Btw, at :18 to :20 could we get a blow up made of the ref mounting Derek Fisher? Would make a fitting tribute to his legacy tbh.

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    I hope a Mills comes back, the Spurs could use him.
    Plus I think he needs more time to mature before becoming a starter.

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    They are talking about the mini midlevel exception.

    Thats 3.1 mio right?

    In my book Patty should be worth that to the Spurs, but should offer 2,5 first.
    With no state tax i'd take the 2.5 instead of 3.1

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    go there and never win a ring again, if thats what u wan your patty to do
    Easy for us to say, but if he gets a lot more money elsewhere, he has to take it.

    I think Mills may be gone but I'm pretty sure Boris is staying.

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    Easy for us to say, but if he gets a lot more money elsewhere, he has to take it.

    I think Mills may be gone but I'm pretty sure Boris is staying.
    I am not so sure he leaves. There are emotional reasons for him to stay here now, and Patty seems to be an emotional player.

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    If you were a young player would you pass up the opportunity to be a starter if it's offered? Its kind of the same way it was with coach Bud, and Brett Brown. I would hate to see him go but I also would totally understand if he does.
    Worked well for Speedy Claxton. Damn if the Spurs had him in 04-06.

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    Not gonna lie, I could definitely see Patty getting Jarrett Jack type money ($6.3 million/year) to be a 6th man for some other team. I really hope he sticks with us for $3-4 million, though. Not only would we miss his on-court play, but he's one of those glue guys in the locker room that just improves the overall morale of the team.
    Is it crazy that I think that kind of offer would be worth matching? Dude had an 18.8 PER this season.

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    everyone is staying!

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    I wouldn't be surprised if everyone stayed now that they won it all, many of them for the first time in their lives.
    That is a pretty emotional occasion that money cannot replace.

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    Patty is undecided. Check out today's Media Availability videos in nba.com

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    Patty is undecided. Check out today's Media Availability videos in nba.com
    I saw that about 10 minutes ago. To me it means he's probably going to look at other offers first before making any decisions. No free agent at this point will come out and guarantee he's coming back.

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    Dumb to say he's going to stay. Don't negotiate against yourself.

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