NBA source is "very confident" Spurs will reach extension with Kawhi before season

[Mel_13]

There is no justification for giving KL max money with Tony making 12 mil a year.. None whatsoever.

Tony's salary will have zero impact on the offers that Kawhi will command from other teams.

If the Spurs aren't willing to go well above 12M per year for Kawhi, they'd better have plans to replace him or simply hope that he's willing to give them a substantial discount.

[dabom]

People also need to view this from Kawhi's position. Does he care more about money or winning? When you get a ring, you want another. It's a good viscous cycle, and Kawhi might be infected.
If he really wanted too, he can take a max contract from any team. I do think he is worth it, but it won't be beneficial for a contending team to take that much cap space,
especially for a small market team like the Spurs. A minor pay cut in the 3mil range might be more beneficial for him and the Spurs.
Now if he does get a max contract from the Spurs, I expect him to play 40plus minutes a game.

[100%duncan]

Kawhi can be max-level but if we are being fair, not yet. But tbh, with Hayward and Parsons getting paid that -ton of money, I would be mad if Kawhi gets low-balled tbh.

[dabom]

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[Rito3d30]

He's going to get his money
the only uncertainty is from who

[99 Problems]

We are a rare animal at Spurs. Only players who are serious about winning come here. Hence very few come. The whole league is full of "yer I want to be on a winner" worthless words guys who are blinded by $. Kawhi looks like a guy who wants to win tbh.

[SpursDynasty21]

I think the Spurs will sign Kawhi Leonard, and I do think that he is worth a max deal.

[elbamba]

Kawhi can be max-level but if we are being fair, not yet. But tbh, with Hayward and Parsons getting paid that -ton of money, I would be mad if Kawhi gets low-balled tbh.

I couldn't agree more. Neither Parsons or Hayward is worth Kawhi's value. Unfortunately, the NBA is full of idiots who pay these guys 15 million to be mediocre. , Ariza just got 8 million a year from a team that shipped him out three years ago. Kawhi is probably worth 12-15 million based on his production. But I get that the market says he is a max player. If he gets the max, I won't be mad. Spurs don't win a championship without him this past season. But I also don't think we when a championship without about 6 specific players on the team this year as well.

[daslicer]

I don't think Kawhi will go for anything less than the max even though other spurs in the past Parker,Manu got a little less than the max. You also forget Kawhi is American born unlike those two other guys so its highly unlikely he is going to give the spurs a discount. I don't think Kawhi is worth the max but since guys like Hayward and Parsons are getting overpaid he will get it just due to the demands of the market.

[will_spurs]

Kawhi definitely deserves max money, just in the same way Tony did when he got his FMVP. Tony turned down max money just the same way Tim and Manu took paycuts.

It's not because Kawhi deserves max money that the Spurs are going to sign him for that much. The Spurs tend to be pretty good at re-signing their players for "decent" contracts, and that usually comes from the fact that the Spurs are good at drafting players with the right character, who value winning and team spirit over $$$.

This is why I wouldn't be surprised to see Kawhi stay in SA for less than the max. Especially after what he said after winning his FMVP, to the tune of "my agent will talk to the Spurs and I'm sure they'll agree on something fair and I'm not worried in the least about it".

[dabom]

Kawhi definitely deserves max money, just in the same way Tony did when he got his FMVP. Tony turned down max money just the same way Tim and Manu took paycuts.

It's not because Kawhi deserves max money that the Spurs are going to sign him for that much. The Spurs tend to be pretty good at re-signing their players for "decent" contracts, and that usually comes from the fact that the Spurs are good at drafting players with the right character, who value winning and team spirit over $$$.

This is why I wouldn't be surprised to see Kawhi stay in SA for less than the max. Especially after what he said after winning his FMVP, to the tune of "my agent will talk to the Spurs and I'm sure they'll agree on something fair and I'm not worried in the least about it".

I agree.

[Mel_13]

Kawhi definitely deserves max money, just in the same way Tony did when he got his FMVP. Tony turned down max money just the same way Tim and Manu took paycuts.

It's not because Kawhi deserves max money that the Spurs are going to sign him for that much. The Spurs tend to be pretty good at re-signing their players for "decent" contracts, and that usually comes from the fact that the Spurs are good at drafting players with the right character, who value winning and team spirit over $$$.

This is why I wouldn't be surprised to see Kawhi stay in SA for less than the max. Especially after what he said after winning his FMVP, to the tune of "my agent will talk to the Spurs and I'm sure they'll agree on something fair and I'm not worried in the least about it".

That's probably the NBA source cited in the tweet in post#1.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Spurs should wait to resign Kawhi next year. Its most beneficial for them being they can offer a 5 year contract at any salary.

I don't see the Spurs offering him the max. He is not worth the max. He still has a lot to prove. I see the Spurs offering him a 5 year deal worth 70mil next year and him accepting it.

He is a guy that knows his roots and he knows he wouldn't even be in this cir stance if not for Pop and Chip coaching him to be the player he is today. Being the highest paid player of the team, Kawhi will humbly accept that. Not all Americans are money hungry idiots.

Kawhi is around guys that took less to be with the Spurs. Even Diaw could have gotten a 9-10 mil a year deal this year. I thought it was Bogus when someone tweeted that is what he wanted. That is probably what other teams offered. But he stayed for FMV and honestly I don't think he even took any other teams calls. I see the same scenario playing out with Kawhi.

[will_spurs]

That's probably the NBA source cited in the tweet in post#1.

Kawhi said that in an interview after the Finals, I'll try to find the video.

[Mel_13]

Kawhi said that in an interview after the Finals, I'll try to find the video.

I remember the interview.

My comment was meant to be a sarcastic jab at the quality of the "NBA sources" in so many of these tweets. In other words, the guy responsible for the tweet watched the Kawhi interview and the only "NBA source" for his tweet is Kawhi's own words.

[MaNu4Tres]

Kawhi definitely deserves max money, just in the same way Tony did when he got his FMVP. Tony turned down max money just the same way Tim and Manu took paycuts.

It's not because Kawhi deserves max money that the Spurs are going to sign him for that much. The Spurs tend to be pretty good at re-signing their players for "decent" contracts, and that usually comes from the fact that the Spurs are good at drafting players with the right character, who value winning and team spirit over $$$.

This is why I wouldn't be surprised to see Kawhi stay in SA for less than the max. Especially after what he said after winning his FMVP, to the tune of "my agent will talk to the Spurs and I'm sure they'll agree on something fair and I'm not worried in the least about it".

I've said the same numerous times in various threads in regards to Leonard and his extension.

I agree.

[dbreiden83080]

Tony's salary will have zero impact on the offers that Kawhi will command from other teams.

If the Spurs aren't willing to go well above 12M per year for Kawhi, they'd better have plans to replace him or simply hope that he's willing to give them a substantial discount.

I don't think he is worth way above 12 mil right now he is a young player on the rise with a lot to prove. To me you get those max type deals once you have proven to be a franchise player.. There are teams out there willing to pay that beforehand but that doesn't make it a smart move. I would seriously roll the dice and see what kind of offers he gets and if someone is willing to greatly overpay him now than it's a tough call at least IMO.. These same people that are freaked out about losing him now in 3 years time with Tim and Manu and maybe even Tony gone will be screaming about KL salary if his offensive game isn't up to par.

[dbreiden83080]

I've said the same numerous times in various threads in regards to Leonard and his extension.

I agree.

He is due to make 2.9 mil next year.. Spurs could offer him 4 years at 40 mil and that would be one of a raise..

[MaNu4Tres]

He is due to make 2.9 mil next year.. Spurs could offer him 4 years at 40 mil and that would be one of a raise..

Still think that's too low.

I think 4/50 would be about right. IMO.

[Mel_13]

I don't think he is worth way above 12 mil right now he is a young player on the rise with a lot to prove. To me you get those max type deals once you have proven to be a franchise player.. There are teams out there willing to pay that beforehand but that doesn't make it a smart move. I would seriously roll the dice and see what kind of offers he gets and if someone is willing to greatly overpay him now than it's a tough call at least IMO.. These same people that are freaked out about losing him now in 3 years time with Tim and Manu and maybe even Tony gone will be screaming about KL salary if his offensive game isn't up to par.

I don't have any issue with anyone saying that they're ok with the Spurs letting Kawhi walk if he receives an offer above a certain level, 12M a year in your case.

Arguing that he won't command a max offer next summer, after seeing the offers for Hayward and Parsons this summer, just flies in the face of the facts. The major forces affecting the market make a max offer for Kawhi even more likely next summer than it would have been this summer, the most significant being yet another large increase in the salary cap. There will simply be even more money in next summer's market.

[TheGoldStandard]

I don't have any issue with anyone saying that they're ok with the Spurs letting Kawhi walk if he receives an offer above a certain level, 12M a year in your case.

Arguing that he won't command a max offer next summer, after seeing the offers for Hayward and Parsons this summer, just flies in the face of the facts. The major forces affecting the market make a max offer for Kawhi even more likely next summer than it would have been this summer, the most significant being yet another large increase in the salary cap. There will simply be even more money in next summer's market.

Exactly, there will be a plethora of teams who are clearing cap space to try to land a FA and they'll throw a boat load towards Kawhi.

[Obstructed_View]

Arguing that he won't command a max offer next summer, after seeing the offers for Hayward and Parsons this summer, just flies in the face of the facts.

He won't, for one simple reason: He'll likely be locked up before training camp even starts.

[Mel_13]

He won't, for one simple reason: He'll likely be locked up before training camp even starts.

That's entirely possible.

So, do you think he gets 5 years for the max, or 4 years for less than the max?

[DPG21920]

The ladder.























Yes that was on purpose.

[wildchild]

He is due to make 2.9 mil next year.. Spurs could offer him 4 years at 40 mil and that would be one of a raise..

You know about positional scarcity?

I can't wait to see other teams will offer him the max/4years deal next offseason. Teams like Lakers and Nets obviously don't care about being over the salary cap and they don't have a great/young SF like Kawhi.
Not only them, 26 teams of the league don't have that two-way player type in that position.

Sure, the Spurs'll match the offer (4 years and the last year player option like Love contract?) and then after three years Leonard will be able to sign with any team he chooses when Tim and Pop are gone.

If the Spurs aren't willing to offer Kawhi the 5 years deal this summer is because they're looking for another player in the FA next offseason to replace him as the face of the franchise.

But if the Spurs want Leonard to be a Spur for life, give him the max/5y deal, keep him happy and he'll never leave us.