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why you ruin it?
Wonder how many bites you'll get. Subtle goods.
Last edited by vander; 07-19-2014 at 08:55 PM.
why you ruin it?
Wonder how many bites you'll get. Subtle goods.
After the poor regular season and playoffs, now would probably be the perfect time to extend TP while his value is low.
What were his WS stats from the previous season? Considering he was a legit MVP candidate, I would imagine they were pretty good.
The point being his next contract will likely be based on a larger body of work and not just last season. I'd also challenge the regression assumption because he'll be fresh coming into next year for the first time in several seasons.
Just being realistic, I don't see a scenario where he gets paid less per season than his current contract.
Tony's contract history with the Spurs suggests that an extension at or near his max is a likely outcome.
In 2012-2013 Tony Parker was 17th in league WS
Rudy Gay 17th in pay at $16,460,538.
Underpaid in 2012-2013, overpaid in 2013-2014. Combined Parker was slightly underpaid, $25M production for a $24M paycheck. Slight underpayment over the last two years should not translate into "the Spurs owe Tony."
I think it is unwise to pay a declining Parker for what Tony did two years ago. Overpaying Parker requires you to underpay several other players to stay in contention. Remember, if you pay everybody on a team what they deserve, then you have a 41-41 team. That doesn't make the playoffs in the West. Tony getting a max extension would require the Spurs to underpay others by $12M/year in order to field a .500 team. Some of that $12M in 2015-16 looks like Mills and Anderson, maybe Jean-Charles and the 2015 1st round pick, but not enough to make the playoffs.
Tony was only a $8,850,000 player in a championship year, and played worse in the playoffs than in the regular season. I wish Parker will improve in 2014-15 as Ginobili improved in 2013-14. But to predict such an improvement denies Father Time and Father Time is mad at the Spurs for Tim Duncan. And Duncan has been maintaining his play, not improving his play. If Parker maintains his play, he is a $9M player.
Ginobili's contract history with the Spurs suggests than an extension at or near Parker's max is an unlikely outcome.
Summary of what we've learned in this thread:
- Tony very likely to sign a 3-year extension paying him about $13-14 million/year.
- WS is a ty stat.
Lol. thank you. Everyone who is hating on Tony for the Thunder / Heat series. Go back and watch Games 1, 2 and 5, particularly game 5. Tony came up huge at critical moments.
The problem with many if not most advanced stats is they miss the intangibles and chemistry, and they underrate the savvy playoff veteran. Yes, both stats and advanced stats show that Tony, Tim and Manu are weaker at their positions than many marquee names. But, this overlooks that these veterans can play at the world-class level when they are most needed. It over-penalizes these veterans for playing less minutes and coasting.
But enough theory. In Game 5 vs OKC, Parker showed up at the most critical moments. People quickly forget that Game 5 was the most important game to that point, as OKC and Ibaka had put the fear of God in the Spurs. What did Chris Paul do in his critical Game 5 against the same team? He all over himself, that's what he did.
Or take Game 6 against OKC. Would anyone other than Manu have hit that game-defining 3? Kobe? KD? Would they have been as quick and crafty and clutch? And how about TD in overtime? Would any other big man, Dwight, Aldridge, Blake, etc., have taken over the game like TD did?
No. It irks me to see posters play Morey the GM and act like these aren't people but some kind of computer program that operates with complete consistency and predictability. These people would have let Ginobili walk for sure. And it would have cost them the 2014 le.
Nice prediction
Fair to Spurfan = giving steep hometown discounts
We've been spoiled beyond belief
Just curious, those numbers are based o his current contract right?
$11 million per down from $12.5 per isn't really a steep discount.
Fair to Spurfan = giving steep hometown discounts
We've been spoiled beyond belief
I also had another post were I said something like a 4 year, $45 million dollar deal for Parker.
Yeah I'm looking more closely at the numbers...I suppose not. I should have said that "Spurfan will always underpay compared to what the front office will give."
Yup. Extensions are always based on allowable raises off of your current deal.
Thank you good sir. I think the Spurs did Tony a solid here.
Yes, I took a screenshot knowing that it'd come up in the future (now) .
Parkers salary related to the cap
12-13-$58.0=21.5% of cap
13-14-$58.0=21.5% of cap
14-15-$63.3 =19.7% of cap
15-16-$67.3 (projected to jump $4 million)=19.9%
You seemed right at the moment, too bad his value is falling like Enron in the 2000´s.
Good bump tbh, can't believe years later Manure is still earning $14,000,000 to the bed.
Its insulting to TP that the TOSB makes the same salary as him.
You realize Manus 14 million had no impact on the moves they made this past summer, right?
You realize its a one yr deal right?
Biggest clown on Spurstalk.
Someone needs to start an All- Clown team on here and give them pink badges.
Are you trying to get owned in back-to-back threads?
respond to my other post before I go in with no Vaseline, scrub
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