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    Chavez is a ing idiot. He will run Venezuela down to the ground. It will take 20 yrs at a minimum to dig Venezuela out of the ditch this idiot will dig the country into.

    Buy Citgo, Dan? Why? To help that idiot?

    that.
    He is no Idiot, he is a dictator who will use any means to remain in power.
    Problem with most is they keep saying these people are idiots, they aren't,
    or they wouldn't be where they are........

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    Do you know who Simon Bolivar was?

    Google it up. He was no dictator. He is the equivalent to America’s George Washington. He fought against the Spanish in the early part of the XIX Century. He is called Libertador of manyof the northern countries in S. Americas just as Jose de San Martin is the Libertador for the southern countries.

    http://www.carpenoctem.tv/military/bolivar.html


    I don't claim to be an expert on this guy but...


    Looks to me like he liberated....

    And then wanted to keep it all for himself...and got his ass kicked because of it.

    Not George Washington...who was offered it all for himself...and then said...No thanks...Greedy capitalist that he was.

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    Looks to me like he liberated....

    And then wanted to keep it all for himself...and got his ass kicked because of it.
    He simply wanted to keep the continent as one single country. Not sure that was a bad idea.

    Not George Washington...who was offered it all for himself...and then said...No thanks...Greedy capitalist that he was.
    Nobody compares to the US heroes. We all know that.

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    Well it's always easy for an idiot to tell people what system they should live under...especially when he doesn't, nor has he ever, lived under that system.

    You want to go live under a soon to be dictator then go ahead...no one is stopping you.
    Very presumptuous, you don't know that he is a soon to be dictator. Okay, I've never lived under socialism, so I can't argue that it can be a good thing. In that case I should love only what I've lived under:capatilism. I don't hate it in theory, but it's the same problem with most system's, the rich elites the poor and you end up with assholes in charge.

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    He simply wanted to keep the continent as one single country. Not sure that was a bad idea.
    Not in and of itself...but it looks to me like he was the sole ruler of it...and that is just another monarchy....just another one like the ones he liberated the continent from.







    Nobody compares to the US heroes. We all know that.

    To be honest, looking at his record, I'd say Bolivar was probably a better General than Washington...but not near as good of a national leader...

    The example Washington set as the leader of this country set the tone that still exists to this day...

    He was very much the father of this country...he even freed his slaves long before the battle to do so would be fought.


    He didn't try to stay in power, he didn't try to make himself king...he set the example of peaceful transfer of power...

    What has set America apart from the rest of the world for the last 200 years is that we don't tear our country apart over dissatisfaction with the government...not ing your own country up leaves you free to keep moving forward(and other countries up I guess ) instead of continually starting over from scratch.

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    Who appointed you master of the human race?

    And Socialism does not end class separation either....it just puts the wealth in the hands of fewer people...and they make it off the back and intellect of others.
    So does capatilism. A very small percent controls a vast majority of the wealth in this country, so you can't argue that capatilism is peaches and cream for everyone.

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    The way to help the poor is not to drag back the strong....it is with generosity, opportunity, and appeals to the conscience of your fellow man...not enforced subsistence living and state sponsored slavery.
    I'm sure you help the poor? The problem is that it sounds good, but it's all bull . The only people that help the poor are bleeding hearts, and Christian organizations...in the name of Christianity. "Compassionate conservatives" don't give a about the poor as evidenced by Bush fighting against an extension for unemployment, even as rates reached recent(or record?) highs. Social programs help keep the country afloat, and without them, this country could well be socialist today. There was a fairly large support for socialism during the workers rights struggle of the early 1900's, and if not for some giving in by the elites, who knows what would have happened.

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    Very presumptuous, you don't know that he is a soon to be dictator. Okay, I've never lived under socialism, so I can't argue that it can be a good thing. In that case I should love only what I've lived under:capatilism. I don't hate it in theory, but it's the same problem with most system's, the rich elites the poor and you end up with assholes in charge.

    Get off your ass and make some money ...learn how to do it. Stop looking for a handout...you live in a country where you have a chance at being the Wealthiest man on Earth and a Government that wants to see you achieve it....

    If you don't want that because money is "evil" well then...congrats..because that's what you got now.




    This isn't a country where the government wipes your ass, because a government that wipes your ass usually ends up telling you when to ......

    This isn't that....it's non stop compe ion to achieve. It's the ultimate sporting event...and if you aren't cut out to be one of the winners...

    You are still better off...because the quality of life at the poverty level here is still better than the upper class quality of life in any other socialist country.

    Do you really want to give up the right to achieve individually, the right to call anything your own, to pursue your own lifes ambitions...just because you are jealous of the Rich?

    Get the over it, the Rich don't keep you poor here.... go out and get a job...or make up your own.


    If you want an asswiping state get your ass over to North Korea...they'll be happy to wipe your ass for you...

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    I'm sure you help the poor? The problem is that it sounds good, but it's all bull . The only people that help the poor are bleeding hearts, and Christian organizations...in the name of Christianity. "Compassionate conservatives" don't give a about the poor as evidenced by Bush fighting against an extension for unemployment, even as rates reached recent(or record?) highs. Social programs help keep the country afloat, and without them, this country could well be socialist today. There was a fairly large support for socialism during the workers rights struggle of the early 1900's, and if not for some giving in by the elites, who knows what would have happened.


    Social programs and being a Socialist country are two different things...


    Tell you what...if you want Socialism for yourself in America...

    Go get on Welfare..., then come to me and I'll tell you what you should workd at doing every day....and then go do the work I tell you too, and pretend your welfare check is what you are being paid...that's Socialism.

    Oh and give me your car and propety...I'll let you know when you can use it.

    Socialism.

    You own nothing...but you do get to eat...if that's your idea of life...I feel sorry for you.

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    I'm sure you help the poor? The problem is that it sounds good, but it's all bull . The only people that help the poor are bleeding hearts, and Christian organizations...in the name of Christianity. "Compassionate conservatives" don't give a about the poor as evidenced by Bush fighting against an extension for unemployment, even as rates reached recent(or record?) highs. Social programs help keep the country afloat, and without them, this country could well be socialist today. There was a fairly large support for socialism during the workers rights struggle of the early 1900's, and if not for some giving in by the elites, who knows what would have happened.

    Why do you think America has always been communist proof?

    Because the ing quality of life here prevents it...there aren't enough poor here for it's concepts to take root...

    And American and it's citizens are the most ing generous nation on the planet...yeah our official aid per capita isn't the highest...but the total amount is..and our private contributions from individual citizens smoke the living ouf the rest of the world combined.

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    Or if you want Socialism another way...

    You could always go and join the US military...You'll still be better off than 90%(those that aren't part of the government) of the Socialist populations in the world.

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    Very eloquent...joking, but you should realize that vast wealth is most commonly determined by what you are born into. An example, Bush. Is Bush a better businessman than me...maybe, but is he a good one, no. He used his daddy's connections to make money, and is now easily a millionaire. You say that I should stop ing and go out and get rich. Laughable...what are the chances of myself going and becoming a millionaire. They are easily less than 1 percent, and that's if I have the greedy drive to step all over others on my way there. I'm not saying capatilism has to be bad, but it does reward the worst forms of human life. I have a trashy job, but as long as I live modestly, I can survive, but that doesn't account for unexpected expenses, or those that can't get a job because corporations prefer paying 32 cents an hour. Even the bible says that money is the root of all evil. I'm not a christian, but many rich hypochrites are. Are you rich guy? You make it sound like a walk in the park.

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    sean hannity hosts an OPINION talk show on fox news
    hes also a best selling author and the host of the 2nd most popular am talk radio show of all time

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    Very eloquent...joking, but you should realize that vast wealth is most commonly determined by what you are born into.
    American Wealth? No...American Weath is gained by being an entrepreneur...

    Was Manu Ginobili born into wealth?

    ...ask TimVP and Kori...the owners of this site...I think they are doing ok...they both are able to earn a living from their home doing what I guess they love...

    Ask them if they were born into it.





    An example, Bush. Is Bush a better businessman than me...maybe, but is he a good one, no. He used his daddy's connections to make money, and is now easily a millionaire.
    It's not that easy...I mean yeah he had connections...but he made it his own...he was a failed Oil man and is not even in that business...

    He made the bulk of his money by leading investment groups where others supplied the capital and he got the group together...

    He made most of his money of the Texas Rangers...and the group he put together didn't have a lot to do with his father...

    The rest of his money he made in the Government...You should applaud that...that's the Socialist way of doing it.




    You say that I should stop ing and go out and get rich. Laughable...what are the chances of myself going and becoming a millionaire. They are easily less than 1 percent,
    That's better odds than you get in a Socialist Country.

    And I am starting to get a clearer picture here....

    It's not the concept of the Rich you have a problem with...it's that you don't think you can be one of them...

    Tough ...

    Difference between Socialism and Capitalism right here:

    I want to be the tallest man in the World and have no shot at doing it...

    If I am a capitalist I will try invent shoes that make me that man...or a hormone formula to cause my legs to grow...


    If I am a socialist I will go and cut off the legs of everyone taller...the result is not that I actually get taller...it's just that I make everyone shorter....


    So in reality it's not that I raise the level of height a human can be...I lower it.






    and that's if I have the greedy drive to step all over others on my way there. I'm not saying capatilism has to be bad, but it does reward the worst forms of human life.
    Not true at all...

    Who was it that went and bailed out the ing Tsunami victims while the rest of the world was sitting there witht heir thumbs up their asses?

    Who has pioneered pharmaceutical and scientiffic development ushering in a technological century in which we advanced more than in all other the other centuries combined...ditto for quality of living?

    The Capitalists.



    I have a trashy job, but as long as I live modestly, I can survive, but that doesn't account for unexpected expenses, or those that can't get a job because corporations prefer paying 32 cents an hour.
    Then do something else...


    Even the bible says that money is the root of all evil.
    It damn sure doesn't say Socialism is the solution. It just say money isn't the most important thing...a good message...but not one that proclaims Socialism as the guiding light...and Socialism damn sure doesn't embrace religion either.

    I'm not a christian, but many rich hypochrites are. Are you rich guy? You make it sound like a walk in the park.
    I am not rich, but that's because I am ing lazy and being rich is not goal in life, but I have a better quality of life because of those whose goal it is to be wealthy. And compared to a Socialist country it is a walk in the park.

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    Very eloquent...joking, but you should realize that vast wealth is most commonly determined by what you are born into. .
    actually no... according to a study by Capgemini, fewer than 20% of wealthy individuals inherited their money.

    from Fortune Magazine:

    "A 2002 study by Capgemini found that more than half of the high-net-worth individuals in the U.S. were "new money," or self-made millionaires. According to the study, inherited money is declining as a share of wealth in the U.S., accounting for less than 20% of high-net-worth individuals in 2002"

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    In fact, if you look at Fortunes list of 50 wealthiest people in America, the vast majority are self-made millionaires.

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    Republicandestino makes a good point...

    I'd be willing to bet that most of the liberal wealth is silver spoon/married wealth. And the conservative wealth is entrepreneureal.

    Bush earned his wealth more legitimately than Kerry....who married it.

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    yeah like me
    because my dad made his own money, unlike those begging liberals, i was able to attend a good high school, didnt have to get a job go to a good college, didnt have to get a job but internships at my dads friends practices, then from all my brothers i met at my frat they all had connections so i got a good job right away
    i made my OWN money
    self made baby
    Surely you believe that a human being has the right to pass on his wealth to his kids don't you? Or are you saying that self-made millionaires must give their money to the state? Or do citizens not have the right to become wealthy in the first place?

    Man, how many communists can one site have?

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    Robertson's clarification from today;

    We are in the midst of a war that is draining vast amounts of our treasure and is costing the blood of our armed forces. I am a person who believes in peace, but not peace at any price. However, I said before the war in Iraq began that the wisest course would be to wage war against Saddam Hussein, not the whole nation of Iraq. When faced with the threat of a comparable dictator in our own hemisphere, would it not be wiser to wage war against one person rather than finding ourselves down the road locked in another bitter struggle with a whole nation?


    Is it right to call for assassination? No, and I apologize for that statement. I spoke in frustration that we should accommodate the man who thinks the U.S. is out to kill him.

    Doesn't sound radical after reading the entire story and considering his apology.

    Full Story:
    http://cbn.com/about/pressrelease_hugochavez.asp

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    dam even TRO doesnt go the cbn.com

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    I think his apology was a more thought out response after he realized how his words sounded yesterday. The thing is, the more thought out response isn't what he really felt. No, what is really in his head was pretty much uttered in an unadulterated way yesterday.

    He reconsidered what he said based on the consequences.

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    yeah i dont think the 700 club is live

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    I think his apology was a more thought out response after he realized how his words sounded yesterday. The thing is, the more thought out response isn't what he really felt. No, what is really in his head was pretty much uttered in an unadulterated way yesterday.

    He reconsidered what he said based on the consequences.

    He wouldn't have recanted that statement of his own voilition because he's too much of a horses ass...I think he got piled on by his own cons uency...His comments are totally unacceptable for a religious leader.


    He loses any credibility he might have in being critical of the stance of Hate preaching Mullahs that call for Bush's head.

    And even worse...he made Chavez come off like the good guy.


    The guy is an idiot and he did no one any favors with those comments....

    Suppose some idiot Christian kills Chavez now...How is that going to look for his faith, America...etc?


    If someone does kill Chavez because of Robertson's incitement, Robertson needs to be deported or imprisoned....just like the Mullahs.

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    I think his apology was a more thought out response after he realized how his words sounded yesterday. The thing is, the more thought out response isn't what he really felt. No, what is really in his head was pretty much uttered in an unadulterated way yesterday.

    He reconsidered what he said based on the consequences.
    So you've never made a statement in your life that you've had to retract or modify? Well let me tell you that if you've ever retracted or modified anything, you actually meant what you originally said and lied after that.

    You won't give him the benefit of the doubt why?




    I learned tough lessons many years ago and that was not to put too much trust in anyone. People I love and looked up to with great admiration said or did things that were crushing, some time and time again.

    I learned the hard way, like most of us do, that human love for one another isn't a perfect thing so I no longer trust or mistrust the ones I love. Maybe instead of mistrust I just lowered expectations. I take what each day brings and if it's a day of trustworthiness great, if not, no big deal, we're human and susceptible to failure and tomorrow's another day.

    Most people have something positive to add to the lives of others. Glean and learn from the good in people, and don't make a big deal of their weaknesses or failures.

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    So you've never made a statement in your life that you've had to retract or modify? Well let me tell you that if you've ever retracted or modified anything, you actually meant what you originally said and lied after that.

    You won't give him the benefit of the doubt why?
    chode
    1. he said it on HIS TAPED tv show
    2. he's crazy this isnt the first crazy thing he's said
    CBN is total bull , have you ever watched it?

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