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    To Russia. Ukraine certainly has far-right, like any other European country, but its prominence has been strongly overblown by Russian propaganda. In USA it's mostly circle around Ron Paul that is on Russia's pay-list.
    Oh, i have no doubt the far right are cheering Putin, you see it on this very site daily. They are a fringe and by tying themselfs to Putin they hope to gain credibility and validation of their ideas. They are dumb and no doubt Russian propaganda machine is trying to take advantage of them.

    I disagree with overblown prominence, being in the goverment - one that is supported by all of EU and USA - gives far more legitimacy and promotion to their ideas than some state sponsoring some fringe groups.

    Which european countries also have anti-semitic, far-right parties in government? (i ask this sincerly, as i generally don't follow other eu countries internal politics that closely i know hungary has strongly right wing government, but as far as i'm aware not far-right, also Austria had Haider - but that's in the past, maybe belgium?).

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    Has russia colapsed yet?


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    Has russia colapsed yet?

    You knock those strawmen down! Knock em all down!

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    I never said it will not affect Russia, it most certainly will - this very thread started with the news that it had, but Russia is a bit bigger economically and not so dependant on Ukraine and they have a better chance of surviving the conflict. Who would buy Ukrainian crap and why are they not selling to them now? EU has a lot of standards and regulations that are not easy to adhere to. For many things (like food) selling stuff in EU is not a simple proposition.

    I may have gone overboard with accusing the EU leaders of being lackeys, but the unity of EU countries when we can barely agree on anything to me clearly shows a lot of pressure is being applied to keep everyone in line - and that kind of pressure can only be applied by USA. Further i'm worried by the actions of USA+Europe that are designed to escalate the conflict not defuse. I worry because Russia is one of Slovenia's main export targets and we're still digging out of recession - if this goes any further we may soon need some of those billions.

    I don't see where i had my russian pom-poms out. I simply stated that i believe if there is the confict is not resolved until winter the Ukraine government will fall. It's a prediction, if i predict USA will trump Slovenia in basketball, am i rooting for USA? Ukrainians may hate russians, but they will hate the cold more.

    In other news:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0R30X120140902
    You give an article indicating the IMF understands their current economic difficulty and sympathizes with it. You think that supports this notion that they won't continue to extend them credit?

    I don't really care about the current Ukrainian leader. i am looking at the nation state and a whole and if the PM is deposed, i don't see them replacing him with someone more pro-Russian. The government didn't collapse and there was no humanitarian crisis when the Russians shut off the gas in the middle of winter for a month a few years ago.

    You are fearmongering and assuming every attempt at leverage the Russians use will be effective.

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    Oh, i have no doubt the far right are cheering Putin, you see it on this very site daily. They are a fringe and by tying themselfs to Putin they hope to gain credibility and validation of their ideas. They are dumb and no doubt Russian propaganda machine is trying to take advantage of them.

    I disagree with overblown prominence, being in the goverment - one that is supported by all of EU and USA - gives far more legitimacy and promotion to their ideas than some state sponsoring some fringe groups.

    Which european countries also have anti-semitic, far-right parties in government? (i ask this sincerly, as i generally don't follow other eu countries internal politics that closely i know hungary has strongly right wing government, but as far as i'm aware not far-right, also Austria had Haider - but that's in the past, maybe belgium?).
    France under Marine Le Pen. She is attempting to mask it, it's her father's old group. Many of the Western European right saw gains in most recent elections or polls. They have even tried to form alliances. The French/Dutch attempt fell flat on its face, mostly due to big differences in goals. Most of the uproar in seemingly all far right Western Euro parties appears to be immigrants and jobs. But then they part ways on other important issues.

    Der Speigel had some very good stuff on this about 2 months ago.

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    France under Marine Le Pen. She is attempting to mask it, it's her father's old group. Many of the Western European right saw gains in most recent elections or polls. They have even tried to form alliances. The French/Dutch attempt fell flat on its face, mostly due to big differences in goals. Most of the uproar in seemingly all far right Western Euro parties appears to be immigrants and jobs. But then they part ways on other important issues.

    Der Speigel had some very good stuff on this about 2 months ago.
    you're damn right, mother europa will be reborn and there's literally nothing that you can do to stop the flood. me and my comrades will soon be marching down the streets and you'll have to run and hide.

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    you're damn right, mother europa will be reborn and there's literally nothing that you can do to stop the flood. me and my comrades will soon be marching down the streets and you'll have to run and hide.
    ebb and flow...

    Mother Europa. You think it's all white.
    Sorry to disappoint you, it's not.

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    ebb and flow...

    Mother Europa. You think it's all white.
    Sorry to disappoint you, it's not.
    Europe is white land and all non whites will be brutally purged soon. No mercy for any invaders, swiftly executed and their ty bodies left for the buzzards.

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    France under Marine Le Pen. She is attempting to mask it, it's her father's old group. Many of the Western European right saw gains in most recent elections or polls. They have even tried to form alliances. The French/Dutch attempt fell flat on its face, mostly due to big differences in goals. Most of the uproar in seemingly all far right Western Euro parties appears to be immigrants and jobs. But then they part ways on other important issues.

    Der Speigel had some very good stuff on this about 2 months ago.
    Le Pen as far as i know is not in the government. The rise of far right in Europe is worrying though not unexpected given the economic troubles we had. Yes, most nationalistic parties have conflicting goals (for obvious reasons) it why they have a trouble forming international alliances unlike the communists. It's hard to pretend you're superior to other people and then accept them as equal partners.

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    http://www.theage.com.au/world/franc...04-10ca8v.html

    lol these french gots have a proven record of alot of losss war battles, trying to act tough against russians....

    russians aint like the germans who will accept ur surrender and will do what hitler failed to do; bomb the out of ur ty monuments of paris...

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    Le Pen as far as i know is not in the government. The rise of far right in Europe is worrying though not unexpected given the economic troubles we had. Yes, most nationalistic parties have conflicting goals (for obvious reasons) it why they have a trouble forming international alliances unlike the communists. It's hard to pretend you're superior to other people and then accept them as equal partners.
    Worrying why?

    a true nationalist doesn't think they're "better" than anyone, they're just taking care of their own. The goal is for a world full of independent nationalist states to eliminate ethnic tensions and everyone elevate themselves for the good of their people. This is a misconception, we know that the a Waffen SS was the most ethnically diverse fighting force that ever existed.

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    Europe is white land and all non whites will be brutally purged soon. No mercy for any invaders, swiftly executed and their ty bodies left for the buzzards.
    Amen

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    Worrying why?

    a true nationalist doesn't think they're "better" than anyone, they're just taking care of their own. The goal is for a world full of independent nationalist states to eliminate ethnic tensions and everyone elevate themselves for the good of their people. This is a misconception, we know that the a Waffen SS was the most ethnically diverse fighting force that ever existed.
    lol, you haven't met any european nationalists, have you? Foreigners are not the problem, they're just scape goats. That's why solving this "problem" solves nothing and the nationalists then just need another marginal group to blame. What do you think a nationalist italian state means for Slovenian minority in Italy - and how do you think proud Slovenian nationalists feel about that? And vice versa with Italian minority in Slovenia? And this is far from unique situation in Europe or indeed the world. The whole notion of national purity is dumb and stupid and any person with two functioning brain cells can see this.

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    lol, you haven't met any european nationalists, have you? Foreigners are not the problem, they're just scape goats. That's why solving this "problem" solves nothing and the nationalists then just need another marginal group to blame. What do you think a nationalist italian state means for Slovenian minority in Italy - and how do you think proud Slovenian nationalists feel about that? And vice versa with Italian minority in Slovenia? And this is far from unique situation in Europe or indeed the world. The whole notion of national purity is dumb and stupid and any person with two functioning brain cells can see this.
    Except immigrants are a problem, they might not be the only problem but their being in our homelands threatens to eventually displace us. Look no further than the UK where they were caught raping our children on a mass scale. Promoting multiculturalism is promoting genocide against whites. If you were a true supporter of diversity then you would seek to preserve that by allowing every people to have a homeland.

    Why couldn't a Slovenian just move to Slovenia? Besides, a person who is racially aware shouldn't be threatened by someone who is another white ethnicity. For the first time ever all of Europe will be united because our survival depends on it where before it was always about power and greed.

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    Except immigrants are a problem, they might not be the only problem but their being in our homelands threatens to eventually displace us. Look no further than the UK where they were caught raping our children on a mass scale. Promoting multiculturalism is promoting genocide against whites. If you were a true supporter of diversity then you would seek to preserve that by allowing every people to have a homeland.

    Why couldn't a Slovenian just move to Slovenia? Besides, a person who is racially aware shouldn't be threatened by someone who is another white ethnicity. For the first time ever all of Europe will be united because our survival depends on it where before it was always about power and greed.
    Really hope you're trolling.

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    ms has a point about immigrants

    those who come legally or illegally seek a better life then the hole where they come from, only not to contribute to society then playing the blame game cause nobody will give them an opportunity, then they go and turn their new country into a hole for everyone

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    Except immigrants are a problem, they might not be the only problem but their being in our homelands threatens to eventually displace us. Look no further than the UK where they were caught raping our children on a mass scale. Promoting multiculturalism is promoting genocide against whites. If you were a true supporter of diversity then you would seek to preserve that by allowing every people to have a homeland.

    Why couldn't a Slovenian just move to Slovenia? Besides, a person who is racially aware shouldn't be threatened by someone who is another white ethnicity. For the first time ever all of Europe will be united because our survival depends on it where before it was always about power and greed.

    Why would Slovenian move to Slovenia from their land on which they literally lived for a millenia, just so they can satisfy the idea of a pure nation of a nation that barely exists for 150 years? I see you're not much into personal and property rights.

    People who dislike other "races" because the are different dislike other "different" minorities - religous, ethnic whatever - there will always be someone who's guilty for all their troubles. Dumb people are dumb. The European nationalists always dream of the glory days of their nation when they we're at the height of their power (before all those damn foreigners) and this height of their nation tends to conflict with other nation's height of power at different time in history. But i'm sure the Croatian and Serbian nationalists can't wait to unite, last time they we're both in power was so pleasant for their people.

    How did immigrants cause the economic troubles in Slovenia (or Greece or Ireland for that matter)? Please, be specific, i would like to have someone to blame for our -ups...

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    Le Pen as far as i know is not in the government. The rise of far right in Europe is worrying though not unexpected given the economic troubles we had. Yes, most nationalistic parties have conflicting goals (for obvious reasons) it why they have a trouble forming international alliances unlike the communists. It's hard to pretend you're superior to other people and then accept them as equal partners.
    She is the leader of the 3rd largest party in France and it's growing. She has taken the Front National and made them palatable. Under daddy they were a freak show. She also just criticized France's decision to hold up on giving the Russians their ordered warship.

    Yes Russia,in all its glory, has to order billion dollar warships from the West. Laughable.

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29912055

    Ukraine crisis: Children die in Donetsk s ing

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    Russian state-owned gas giant Gazprom said it had received $1.54bn (£970m; €1.2bn) from Ukraine's Naftogaz, the first instalment of a $3.1bn payment of debt for gas dating back to late last year. Ukraine's gas supplies were turned off in June in a row over unpaid bills and a sharp increase in gas prices.
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    Where were you when the Russians agreed to continue supplying natural gas over the winter?

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    Where were you when the Russians agreed to continue supplying natural gas over the winter?
    I was not paying attention? Honestly i didn't have much interest in the conflict once things kind of settled a bit, i just found this piece of info interesting (which was all over our news), because it shows how dependant the Ukraines are on Russian gas. This is a deal both parties really need, hopefully it leads to a more peaceful future, though i fear it just a temporary deal, and things will flair back up in the spring.

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    Yes Russia,in all its glory, has to order billion dollar warships from the West. Laughable.
    It's even worse. They're buying electronics for their tanks (optics, ballistic computers, etc.) in France.

    http://vesti7.ru/vh?cid=871640

    These are news on 1st channel of Russian state TV. Interesting part is from 6:30 on. They're climbing over some T-72 with Ukrainian id stripes and complaining about bunch of western electronics in it. Those European gots collaborating with Ukrainian fascist junta.

    Only problem? It's T-72B3 modernization which went operative in autumn 2013 and is used exclusively by Russian military. It must have been captured by ukies at some time and then left behind. Another proof of regular Russian army taking part in combat.

    This is description of such, perhaps even the same incident:

    https://burkonews.info/story-colonel...ian-t-72-tank/

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    http://news.yahoo.com/russian-ruble-...170311974.html

    Moscow (AFP) - The ruble on Thursday slid to new lows of over 46 to the dollar and 58 to the euro, which gained more than two rubles in one day.

    The euro reached 58.11 rubles after the market closed Thursday, up from 56.08 rubles the previous evening. The dollar rose to 46.77 rubles from 44.95 rubles late Wednesday.

    The Russian currency has fallen in value by about a quarter this year despite a number of interventions by the central bank costing billions of dollars.

    The slide has been more intense over the past month amid falling oil prices, which provide the Russian budget with the majority of its revenue.

    The former deputy minister and current chief economist for Vneshekonombank, Andrei Klepach, said this week that Russia might as well "learn to live with" the falling ruble, adding that its current loss also has to do with the economy's enormous capital flight.

    "If it weren't for capital flight, the rate would be around 35-36 rubles to the dollar," he told Gazeta.ru.

    The currency has been hit hard by plunging oil prices and also the consequences of Western sanctions against Moscow over its conduct in the separatist insurgency in eastern Ukraine and its growing international isolation.


    Invincible Russia.

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    yeah well russia doesn't want to completely destroy it's people with multiculturalism and they are fighting a leviathan in the international banker cartel, similar to the struggle the germans faced in the late 30's. of course the sanctions hurt, international finance is conspiring yet again to destroy a sovereign nation and bring it to it's knees.

    good goy, cheer for the destruction of europe while you get NSA, ebola, a ty economy, the illegal hordes pouring in and bringing diseases like chagas disease, and constantly told how bad and evil white people are through the jew media and hollywood each and every day

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    yeah well russia doesn't want to completely destroy it's people with multiculturalism and they are fighting a leviathan in the international banker cartel, similar to the struggle the germans faced in the late 30's. of course the sanctions hurt, international finance is conspiring yet again to destroy a sovereign nation and bring it to it's knees.

    good goy, cheer for the destruction of europe while you get NSA, ebola, a ty economy, the illegal hordes pouring in and bringing diseases like chagas disease, and constantly told how bad and evil white people are through the jew media and hollywood each and every day


    Not worth actually responding to, just laughing to. That might be the whiniest post in the history of this forum, and that's saying something.



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