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    Argentina is already qualified for the World Championships by virtue of winning the Olympics. So this tournament for them is for no reason. They have to play in it, but they don't count toward the four teams that advance. So they have no reason to risk sending their best players.

    I don't think Delfino is on this team.
    ok, some pistons fans were worried Delfino didn't even make the team. Any idea when the games are that their best players will be in? I am new to international bball, so all of these tourney's are confusing me.
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    ok, some pistons fans were worried Delfino didn't even make the team. Any idea when the games are that their best players will be in?
    The actual World Championship is next summer in Japan in August and September. I don't know why Delfino would leave the summer league early if he's not even playing this summer Maybe he just wanted a vacation.

    The Argentineans on the board probably know -- maybe he was supposed to play, but then they didn't need him or something.

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    The actual World Championship is next summer in Japan in August and September. I don't know why Delfino would leave the summer league early if he's not even playing this summer Maybe he just wanted a vacation.

    The Argentineans on the board probably know -- maybe he was supposed to play, but then they didn't need him or something.
    Does anyone know why guys like Ginobili, Delfino, Nocioni, Scola, etc aren't playing for the Argentina National team? Are they just saving them for the real tournament? I really have no idea how it works, I am just wondering if Carlos Delfino will be playing during the tournament? I know he left the Pistons summer league early to go there, but I haven't been able to find any other info.
    As far as the national team goes, the head coach decided to use this tournament to test new players since we are already qualified for the World Championships. There are only 2 players from the Gold Medal winning roster, Gabriel Fernandez and Leonardo Gutierrez, who are the ones that have their spot in the "A" team in a compromised situation. Most of the rest of the players are inexperienced in International basketball, but if they show their value against international compe ion they could earn a spot in the 2006 World Championship roster.

    Since Argentina is already qualified as Olympic Champion, the rest of the teams now play for the remaining four FIBA Americas spots, with Brazil, USA and Canada as favourites to win the tournament or qualify.

    That's why you don't see Ginobili, Delfino, Nocioni, Oberto, Scola, Sanchez, Herrmann, etc., they all were given a year off with the National Team. Which is OK, since they acheived a gold medal, and that gave us automatic qualification for the World Championship.

    Delfino right now would be Ginobili's backup in the "A" team, but if he spends an entire season without playing significant minutes in the Pistons, he could lose that spot by the time the World Championship is hosted.

    I hope I answered what you were asking.

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    I know he left the Pistons summer league early to go there, but I haven't been able to find any other info.
    It was the other way around, he decided not to play for the NT in order to play in the summer league, and he did play there...

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    Thanks MMLH, that clears up a lot of things. The thing I'm wondering though is why Delfino would leave our Summer league early to go to the Qualifying Tournament practices, but not play in the actual games? Have you heard anything about how he did when he was there?
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    It was the other way around, he decided not to play for the NT in order to play in the summer league, and he did play there...
    He went to the first 3 Summer league games then left to go to Argentina for the tournament is what I heard. I know he wasn't at the last 2 summer league games for sure.
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    He went to the first 3 Summer league games then left to go to Argentina for the tournament is what I heard. I know he wasn't at the last 2 summer league games for sure.
    If he wasn't playing it was because of a shoulder injury maybe, he was never intended to be a part of the NT in this years schedule.

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    Go Dominican Republic!!! My Boy Felipe Lopez Is There!! AND FRANCISCO GARCIA

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    I we don't qualify in the top 4 (excluding the already qualified Argentina), it would be a freaking disaster.

    All the preparations for the next Olympics will suffer a big blow if we don't even qualify for the World Championship in Japan next year.

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    I we don't qualify in the top 4 (excluding the already qualified Argentina), it would be a freaking disaster.
    All the preparations for the next Olympics will suffer a big blow if we don't even qualify for the World Championship in Japan next year.

    Don't worry
    I read in a newspaper that FIBA has 4 wildcards in their pockets for 2006 WC in Japan ...
    One for sure will go to USA Basketball
    (Of course if NBA provides Stars ).

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    I think this team will qualify anyway. They would have likely been 3-1 right now if Alex Scales (leading scorer) played yesterday. Hopefully his injury (bruised chest?) isn't that serious.

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    "bruised chest?"

    that Canadian enforcer got him?

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    Canadian got killed by Brazil and knocked out of the tourney...

    Canada trounced 105-81 by Brazil at FIBA Americas world qualifying tournament


    SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (CP) - Leo Rautins' first major tournament as head coach of the Canadian national men's basketball team ended in disaster Sunday. Marcelo Machado scored a tournament-high 42 points as Brazil downed Canada 105-81 in the FIBA Americas world qualifying tournament, eliminating the Canadians from the compe ion. Canada (1-3) finished at the bottom of its five-team group, with the top four teams advancing to the quarter-finals.

    The loss also means Canada will not play in next year's world basketball championships in Japan. It's the first time Canada has failed to qualify for the world championships since 1967.

    "We got off to a rocky start against Venezuela, and that seemed to set the tone for the tournament," said forward Carl English. "We were stuck between a rock and a hard place in a must-win situation against Brazil. We played hard, but they were making their shots."

    The Canadians, playing their fourth game in as many days, couldn't keep up with the high-octane Brazilians, who feature guard Leandro Barbosa of the Phoenix Suns and forward Tiago Splitter, who is expected to be a 2006 NBA lottery pick. Splitter scored 13 points and Barbosa added 12 as Brazil (3-1) clinched first place in Group A.

    Rautins said his team simply couldn't match the veteran poise of their Brazilian counterparts.

    "We played Brazil in a desperate situation, and our youth and inexperience showed," said Rautins, who took over the coaching reins from Jay Triano in February. "We came here to win, but we also came here with a young group of players, and the experiences they learned here will bode well for the future."

    Canada hung tough in an entertaining first quarter, trailing 30-26 after 10 minutes. But Machado, a six-foot-seven shooting guard, torched the Canadians for 25 first-half points to help the Brazilians build a 53-39 lead at halftime.

    The Canadians reduced the deficit to 71-63 on a Denham Brown three-pointer at the end of the third quarter, but they could get no closer. Machado made sure of that with a pair of three-pointers early in the fourth quarter that expanded Brazil's lead to 83-66.

    The 30-year-old, who plays in the Brazilian national league, finished 10-of-18 from beyond the arc and added 11 rebounds, seven assists and three steals.

    Rautins was quick to credit the Brazilians, who also beat Panama and Venezuela on their way to the top of the group standings.

    "Brazil is a very good team with experience and poise," said Rautins. "That was the difference in the game."

    Brown finished with 25 points, English added 19 and Juan Mendez and Levon Kendall had 13 apiece for the Canadians.

    Despite the disappointing effort, English said the team remains upbeat.

    "Overall, we have to get used to playing with each other," Coach Rautins is leading this team in the right direction. Now we just have to regroup and prepare for the Olympic qualifiers."

    Elsewhere, Venezuela (3-1) earned a 71-70 win over Panama (1-3) to conclude round-robin action in Group A.

    Mexico (1-2) played Puerto Rico (1-2) and the host Dominicans (3-0) entertained Argentina (2-1) in Group B action later Sunday.

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    Thats probably really good for the US. If results against the team you have already played to are carried to the 2nd stage.

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    Argentina 84-Dominican Republic 60

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    Thats probably really good for the US. If results against the team you have already played to are carried to the 2nd stage.
    Exactly. Now at the second stage, the 8 teams start like this:

    Argentina: 3-0 (Mexico is out, so the game doesnt count)
    Brazil: 2-1
    USA: 2-1
    Venezuela: 2-1
    Donimican: 2-1
    Puerto Rico: 1-2
    Uruguay: 0-3
    Panama: 0-3

    With the elimination of Canada, the 4 spot for next WC are pretty much clear.
    The only doubt could be Puerto Rico.
    Next stage is played in 4 days. All against all not previously met.

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    Exactly. Now at the second stage, the 8 teams start like this:

    Argentina: 3-0 (Mexico is out, so the game doesnt count)
    Brazil: 2-1
    USA: 2-1
    Venezuela: 2-1
    Donimican: 2-1
    Puerto Rico: 1-2
    Uruguay: 0-3
    Panama: 0-3

    With the elimination of Canada, the 4 spot for next WC are pretty much clear.
    The only doubt could be Puerto Rico.
    Next stage is played in 4 days. All against all not previously met.
    I hate this kind of tournament, prefer clear rules like Olympics, YOU WIN YOU continue ...WTF ...

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    nz is going to the world champs,didn't even need to qualify, and usa has to qualify? i dont understand

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    what i don't understand if Argentina is prequalified, why are they playing in qualifying tournament?

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    Getting some PT for their bench players and figuring out a few things that could help them in the championship.

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    nz is going to the world champs,didn't even need to qualify, and usa has to qualify? i dont understand
    wasn't NZ 4th and USA 5th or 6th on last WC?

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    ah yes...

    2002 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP FINAL STANDINGS
    1. Yugoslavia (7-2)
    2. Argentina (8-1)
    3. Germany (6-3)
    4. New Zealand (4-5)
    5. Spain (7-2)
    6. USA (6-3)
    7. Puerto Rico (6-3)
    8. Brazil (4-4)

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    im sorry to the yugoslavian posters here e but damn! the last world championship finals game was stupid!

    that damn ref didn't call the obvious foul!!! wtf!!!!! they messed up so bad it sucked... and manu was sprained too.

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    what i don't understand if Argentina is prequalified, why are they playing in qualifying tournament?
    Two reasons I could find:

    1st, this is an Official FIBA Torunament so ARG must play

    2nd, even qualified it is useful to test new players

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    what i don't understand if Argentina is prequalified, why are they playing in qualifying tournament?
    the final placings from this tournament will put them into the appropriate group for the world chapionships, e.g. 1st place will have the easier draw.
    i just found that out, nz and oz had a qualifying tournament when we had both already qualified for the world champs

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