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I'm surprised that testies didn't pile on with the Cav's fans......
so naturally that rules out hakeem and kareem
I'm surprised that testies didn't pile on with the Cav's fans......
I never paid attention to "The Decision" or the fallout but damn...
Mike and Magic as well, and LeBron's future inclusion would be barricaded.
When Ed Malloy is on the whistle, nobody wins; someone just survives.
Can you help rustle up a gif of the play of Duncan with the clutch block on Sugarpuff Irving only to be rung up by Ed and krew?
http://awfulannouncing.com/2013/timb...r-no-call.html
I've really never laughed as hard at a play-by-play call as I did listening to this...over and over again.
holy
yep, that was an and one. not to mention the Baynes straight up foul.
Good thing they have Kevin Love, he, not the refs, kept us in the game
He just looks inept, tbh.
Bwahaha. LeBron makes the right basketball play every time, even is labeled as not having a killer instinct by Kirby stans bc of it. Yet you're really gonna compare him to a guy who's selfish play has cost the Lakers championships and has made a place where stars once flocked to undesirable? You suck at analyzing basketball tbh.
It's not his job to make those kind of guys better, they don't need him in that way since they can get points on their own. With them it's more of a balancing act...make sure they eat and have their moments as the focal point too. Bron is willing to do that, meanwhile Beanchuck feels the need to say and 'show' people that the Lakers are still his team.
As far as shooters and guys like Sideshow Bob go, Bron is king at making those kind of players better. Kirby OTOH would rather put up 40 shots than pass it to them.
And AI knows how to win playoff series without HOF bigman.
Gotta love the bball intelligence of Kirby fan though. It's like your incapable of writing more than 3-4 sentences.
Damn, Kobe is so great that he won 5 les and 2 FMVPs despite his selfish, beanchuck and cancerous play. Thanks for reinforcing my point.
Let's give AI a Won A Series Without A HOF Big Man Championship?
I would continue the discussion if your arguments didn't should like they were made by a 10 year old fanboy. You're horrible at talking basketball and at understanding simple things tbh.
I wanna have a good discussion with an intelligent, reasonable Kirby fan just once. It seems like all of them are re ed. I think I might get through to an intelligent one. Then again chances are the smart Laker fans are the ones that see through Beanchuck...so smart Kirby fans probably don't exist tbh.
That sounds a whole lot like you want to have a good discussion with someone who agrees with you.
Venti Quattro's arguments for Kobe don't seem unreasonable to me. You just disagree with him and seem to be disappointed that you can't change his mind -- as if there is an objectively correct answer.
It's not a particularly unreasonable position to argue that -- at this moment -- Kobe Bryant has had a better NBA career than Lebron James.
There is no argument on his part. Hes just throwing out ring count and how 'they speak for themselves'. I think some of what I brough up and spurraider too are legit questions about Kirby yet they're just side stepped bc 5 rings. Not much different than the typical Kirby stan tbh.
If you're calling N.W.A the best rap group then that's a joke its Outkast or the Wu
If you look past ring count, which is a team accomplishment anyway, its not even all that close. 4-5 MVPs and under 30 years old is ridiculous.
I am hardly a Kirby stan, vato. It's more like you can't argue any matter regarding without your predisposed bias against The Mamba.
You can't deny the positive and effect he's had on his games on his teammates when the end result is numerous playoff series won, 5 championships and 2 FMVPs. Sure, he's been blessed with quality teammates but that's the work of the front office which he works for. He was given the tools and he went out and made it work. How can you antagonize that? Sure, he's not good now but you knew he was money when he had the quality around him to compete.
A lot of stars who were blessed with the same talent weren't even able to win the championship. That's what makes him one of the 10 best players in NBA league history.
The 5 les are a pretty significant argument; Jordan's 6 and Russell's 11 are generally noted as the premier accomplishments of their careers and the fundamental bona fides for their inclusion in any historical Top 5. Tim Duncan's 5th all but ensured that he will retire as a Top 10 all-time player.
I'm not going to try to spell out Kobe's resume, but I will say again that I don't think an argument that Kobe Bryant has had a better career than Lebron James at this juncture is in any way unreasonable. Kobe's got hardware that Lebron can't match; Kobe's got production that Lebron hasn't matched yet; Kobe's got monstrous performances in big games and big moments that are indelibly a part of his NBA legacy -- and, arguably, he has far more of those kinds of performances than Lebron does (and most of the time, he's had to get through a difficult Western Conference without the cushion of getting a couple of walkovers to get him into the latter rounds of the playoffs; and when he was younger, his teams ran that gauntlet with some consistency).
It's all a matter of taste and subjective evaluations, but there's ample room to argue that Kobe Bryant's resume is among the very best ever.
Ranking him, at the end of his career, slightly ahead of Lebron in the middle of his career is pretty reasonable.
He's probably Top 5 ever at getting his own shot. And it's not like I'm calling him a scrub, I have him atleast Top 15. But his selfishness is a legit weakness of his. The frontlines and squads he had during le years allowed him to just focus on what he does best which is why the Lakers enjoyed success during his tenure. We've all seen the result the 4-5 years were he doesn't have dominant players by his side though. The results aren't any different than what Tmac, AI or VC did in similar situations. I mean thats a fact not just an opinion of mine.
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