rank spurs players in terms of value to the team..

[rasuo214]

Tim
Kawhi
TP
Manu
Splitter/Green/Diaw (depends on matchup)
Patty
Belli
the rest

[timtonymanu]

SOme opinions are so off they are idiotic. Manu> Tony right now is one of them and another one is kobe>MJ

Please do explain this further. And don't tell me stuff like TP is still the #1 guy or some generic answer.

[Malik Hairston]

anybody that doesn't have Kawhi at 1 and anybody that has Parker in their top 5..

[apalisoc_9]

anybody that doesn't have Kawhi at 1 and anybody that has Parker in their top 5..

[KL2]

[Sean Cagney]

Many Spurs fans see parker as a full fledged back up pg at this stage of his career. Those same Spurs fans completely neglect the fact that Mills couldn't even crack the rotation two years ago. It's called "what have you done for me lately" syndrome. It's incurable without a brain transplant.

I agree, love Patty and he had a good run last year in the playoffs no doubt off the bench but he overall is NOT more important for the team than Parker is. I disagree with who says he is, but it is what it is.

[Hoops Czar]

at anybody who thinks the Spurs needed Kiwi to beat the dreadful Lakers.

Duncan
Green/Kiwi
TP

Crossing off Ayres, Daye and Bonner, you can throw the other names in a hat and pick blindly. The order doesn't matter

[Malik Hairston]

anybody that doesn't have Kawhi at 1 and anybody that has Parker in their top 5..

[apalisoc_9]

Anyone that has Parker over kawhi

[Malik Hairston]

Anyone that has Parker over kawhi

I bet Kawhi begged Pop to let him play once he heard Enrique was sitting out, tbh..

"Damn, I get to touch the ball tonight?!"

[KL2]

Glad to have our MVP back.

[rasuo214]

If we look at it in a statistical perspective Spurs by WAR so far this season:
1. Duncan (3.75) 9th in NBA
2. Kawhi (3.29) 13th in NBA
3. Danny (2.52) 27th in NBA
4. Manu (1.42) 58th in NBA
5. CoJo (0.82) 108th in NBA
6. Diaw (0.66) 131st in NBA
7. Bonner (0.64) 137th in NBA
8. Baynes (0.50) 161st in NBA
9. Beli (0.15) 227th in NBA
10. Tiago (0.04) 283rd in NBA
11. Ayres (-0.01) 355th in NBA
12. Anderson (-0.01) 359th in NBA
13. Daye (-0.15) 396th in NBA
14. Parker (-0.21) 403rd in NBA

Obviously playing time impacts this (so Tiago being so low isn't a surprise) but Parker as being the worst on the Spurs and among the worst in the NBA (out of 430 players), that was surprising.

Spurs by PER:
1. Tiago (24.7)
2. Timmy (22.6)
3. Kawhi (19.4)
4. Parker (17.0)
5. Manu (16.9)
6. CoJo (16.8)
7. Baynes (16.7)
8. Danny (16.1)
9. Beli (15.1)
10. Bonner (13.3)
11. Diaw (12.9)
12. Ayres (11.3)
13. Anderson (6.1)
14. Daye (3.1)

15 PER = League Average

[100%duncan]

1)a. Duncan
1)b. Kawhi
2)a. Manu
2)b. Tiago
3.Green
4.Diaw
5)a.Parker
5)b. Mills
6. Bonner
7. Beli
8. Baynes

Scrubs

[vander]

5. Duncan
5. TP
5. Manu
5. Kawhi
5. Green
8. Splitter
8. Diaw
8. Patty
9. Bonner
10. Belli

[apalisoc_9]

If we look at it in a statistical perspective Spurs by WAR so far this season:
1. Duncan (3.75) 9th in NBA
2. Kawhi (3.29) 13th in NBA
3. Danny (2.52) 27th in NBA
4. Manu (1.42) 58th in NBA
5. CoJo (0.82) 108th in NBA
6. Diaw (0.66) 131st in NBA
7. Bonner (0.64) 137th in NBA
8. Baynes (0.50) 161st in NBA
9. Beli (0.15) 227th in NBA
10. Tiago (0.04) 283rd in NBA
11. Ayres (-0.01) 355th in NBA
12. Anderson (-0.01) 359th in NBA
13. Daye (-0.15) 396th in NBA
14. Parker (-0.21) 403rd in NBA

Obviously playing time impacts this (so Tiago being so low isn't a surprise) but Parker as being the worst on the Spurs and among the worst in the NBA (out of 430 players), that was surprising.

Spurs by PER:
1. Tiago (24.7)
2. Timmy (22.6)
3. Kawhi (19.4)
4. Parker (17.0)
5. Manu (16.9)
6. CoJo (16.8)
7. Baynes (16.7)
8. Danny (16.1)
9. Beli (15.1)
10. Bonner (13.3)
11. Diaw (12.9)
12. Ayres (11.3)
13. Anderson (6.1)
14. Daye (3.1)

15 PER = League Average

Parker

[apalisoc_9]

Hmmm

[timtonymanu]

Hmmm

We clearly lost this game cause MVParker was out.

[apalisoc_9]

anybody that doesn't have Kawhi at 1 and anybody that has Parker in their top 5..

[Malik Hairston]

Save us Kawhi, save us..

[timtonymanu]

posters that say the Big 3 are still the most important players
same posters that put Enrique in the top 5

[apalisoc_9]

posters that say the Big 3 are still the most important players
same posters that put Enrique in the top 5

[rasuo214]

posters that say the Big 3 are still the most important players
same posters that put Enrique in the top 5

Other than Kawhi who would you consider more important than TD and Manu? I also think a healthy Parker is important to the team playing well. It's not like they have done well without him.

[timtonymanu]

Other than Kawhi who would you consider more important than TD and Manu? I also think a healthy Parker is important to the team playing well. It's not like they have done well without him.

I'm talking about posters that put all the Big 3 over Kawhi. Just look through this thread and you'll find some of those lists.

[Hoops Czar]

Other than Kawhi who would you consider more important than TD and Manu? I also think a healthy Parker is important to the team playing well. It's not like they have done well without him.

Let him be. He obviously doesn't have a ting clue.

[Malik Hairston]

No offense to any old-school fans, but you would have to be a ing imbecile to think Leonard isn't the most important/valuable player on the Spurs' roster, tbh..