how do you think it ends if you walk in and agree that you were speeding?
Wtf do you want?
my point is you need to actually make an argument. you cant just walk in and say "i wasn't speeding" or else the judge will just ignore you. this is why i'm asking if anybody here has successfully combatted a speeding ticket before.
instead wads like yourself have just been repeating that is of no use
There's no magical way to beat it. If the cop doesn't show the judge might take your word or he may not. If he does show, it's your word vs his. That's it, those are your options.
by that time your simple speeding ticket would turn into a warrant. wtf is wrong with you?was thinking i could make a trip of it in the spring/summer months after extensions and all
by that time your simple speeding ticket would turn into a warrant. wtf is wrong with you?
They probably scale up the higher you were over the limit, however i dont know about Cali but it would def explain him quoting you high initially. Only thing that i have ever heard of working with any regularity is hoping the cop doesnt show up in court, as djr210 said.
Give the ticket to a cop and tell him to approach the cop who cited you. If he gets to him before he turns in the ticket and convinces him, he'll throw out the ticket before it gets logged.
Of course you'd have to obviously know a cop in the area where you got the ticket or at least know someone who knows a cop.
I used to work with a chick who was married to a cop. Every time I'd get a ticket I'd give it to her and she'd give it to her husband who would make it disappear.
Oh ok so you run at 65 the whole time you were driving the highway? No you didn't...Stop lying bro.
Once you sign the ticket you are agreeing to do business with the police officer, and the citation becomes a contract. Here's a quote which explains it more from a retired judge..
"The CITATION process can be handled much easier; through the mail. When a Police Officer issues you a CITATION, he is actually requesting you to CONTRACT with him! He is alleging that you violated a corporate regulation in writing, which you have accepted by signing and thus requires you to respond.
The Police Officer is instructed to explain that your signature is merely an acknowledgment that you received a copy of the CITATION but in actuality, your signature is notification to the Court and Judge that you have accepted or CONSENTED to this offer to CONTRACT, which also grants the Judge CONSENT; PERSONAM and SUBJECT MATTER jurisdiction over you and the case!
You can cancel that CONTRACT however my rescinding your CONSENT, within three business days of entering into such a CONTRACT. So across the face of the CITATION you should print or type in large print, the following words:
I DO NOT ACCEPT THIS OFFER TO CONTRACT
And
I DO NOT CONSENT TO THESE PROCEEDINGS.
Use blue ink [for admiralty] or purple ink [for royalty]. Admiralty is the Court and Royalty represents your Sovereignty. Either way is appropriate. Sign your signature underneath in blue or purple ink and in front of a Notary and under your signature type: Without prejudice, UCC 1-308. This is another way to declare that you may not be held responsible for this contract pursuant to the Uniform Commercial Code.
Serve Cancelled Citation back it on the Clerk / Court, along with a Certificate of Service, by Certified Mail, Return Receipt Requested. This kills the CITATION; removes your CONCENT and removes the JURISDICTION of the Court, all at the same time. It really is that simple!
NOTE: A Certificate of Service is a letter that first identifies the Citation and then defines how and when you returned the do ent to the Court and is signed. If not denied, it becomes a truth in commerce by Tacit Procuration.
Remember to keep a copy of everything, in case the Clerk attempts to trash your response, which certainly will not happen with a Certificate of Service or if it is mailed back by the Notary. The Notary is actually a Deputy Secretary of State and is more powerful than the Court Clerk!"
Like Brazil stated, I'm surprised you didn't at least challenge the officer to review his radar gun - maybe his calibration was off (or most likely BSing).
Just from reading your story though, honestly I'd just pay it and do DD. It just seems like a big hassle burning more gas and time trying to attest the ticket. I remember I was driving at the speed limit of 65, but I passed an unidentified Cop car and the officer pulled me over for go 71. I knew he was BSing, but fortunately the judge dropped my ticket in half and despite myself still on probation (1 month left too), he allowed me to take DD again.
lol looking for a special argument for your speeding ticket is pretty ing re ed.
Rofl contract?
If you don't sign the ticket, the cop can arrest you.
I posted the link for how to contest a speeding ticket in California. It's ing step by step and it's still of no use to you? Damn you want to be a lawyer but you're struggling with something that every 16 year old has managed to figure out on their own.
It's amazing to me that three pages in and people are still missing the boat. I understand the process of a not guilty plea. That link you provided didn't even mention a request for discovery, which you always should do before fighting a ticket.
In the OP I explained the situation and I asked if anybody here has successfully pulled off a defense for a speeding ticket. And if so, how exactly they went about it (ie, do you challenge the radar gun, etc)
If you want to challenge police methods and equipment, you'd need a lawyer. Even then, from the details you've described, I doubt he would get you out of the ticket completely.
if you go by yourself, unless you have some solid evidence otherwise (like a built-in speed restricter) the court really will you.
ask one of your professors.
So to answer the thread le, you could have just said "no."
Thanks
be in law school but ask for advice from strangers on spurstalk instead of your professors, brehs.
People aren't missing the boat man. The thing is no one has bothered to fight a petty speeding ticket. Tap into your fantasy winnings scro.
you're stupid.
1.) Plead not guilty by mail
2.) Request trial by mail
Good chance the ticket will be dismissed, if found guilty then
3.) Request trial de novo
Only then would you file a discovery request
Then you would go to trial and the Judge will probably dismiss the case because he will realize you are a ing moron for putting so much effort into a petty traffic fine.
From what I remember, you need to plead "no contest" and request deferred adjudication and sign up for defensive driving. The county may charge a fee. At your court date, take proof of the defensive driving course with you and they should dismiss the charges.
He doesn't want to do that. He wants to fight the man, even though he admits he was speeding.
you should always request discovery as early as possible. that would allow you to better prepare your trial by mail. and i never admitted to speeding in this thread. and again, court charges + traffic school will cost as much if not more than the ticket itself. the base fee for a speeding ticket is $35, the rest of it is "court fees" which you'd pay anyway with traffic school.
right. that's what the deferred adjudication does. It will start the process to request a hearing. At the hearing, he will bring the defensive driving proof and then have his chance to adjudicate the prosecution. At that point, he'll either win and all charges will be dropped. Or lose and it will automatically get filed on his insurance.
they probably already laughed at him and told him to pay it tbh
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