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    I would like to see this team be intact for the rest of the season, and see how it works out, imo barry n beno average performance last season, but its better then nothing and they only contributed what is expected from them, since beno is a rookie just like parkers first season here, and look how parker has develop, i can see beno being sumthing special if he had that killer instinct drive like parker and he be unstoppable withi his accuracy jumpshotz.

    I dont know what pop is goin to do with this current team, but i can expect alot of great things this team can achieve. The changes and additions made will not work overnite, but as the season progresses, this team will DOMINATE.

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    Let me have the first honest post on this board - Brent Barry is a worthless piece of who deserves to die in a massive murder-suicide involving his worthless, conceited of a father.... only then, will my life finally achieve peace and tranquility. If I never have to see that bag's little pussy set shot and run back again, it's too soon... not to mention, the constant asshole look on his face.

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    Yay!!!! Freethrow line dunk for win at 96 contest!!! Even then, he sucked the big one - PS Finley deserved the championship in that one, so maybe if they get rid of Brent, then Finley finally has the redemption he deserves.

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    P.S.

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    Hey Ron Mexico,

    I would rather see Rick Barry bludgeon Steve Nash's hey-look-how-free-spirited-I-am-with-my-long-hair-and- tiest-mvp trophy in the history of the league-face with an 8 pound cinder block.

    Underhanded, from 15' away.

    Extra points if he survives the initial blow, but bleeds so profusely that he drowns in a crimson puddle comprised of head blood and sero-sanguinous vaginal discharge. Bo Outlaw is then forced to clean the court, as per his contract.


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    Let me have the first honest post on this board - Brent Barry is a worthless piece of who deserves to die in a massive murder-suicide involving his worthless, conceited of a father.... only then, will my life finally achieve peace and tranquility. If I never have to see that bag's little pussy set shot and run back again, it's too soon... not to mention, the constant asshole look on his face.
    looks like last season's embarrassment of the Suns hurt some fans more than others

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    ^^^^ lmao

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    This has nothing to do with his playoff performance against Phoenix and everything to do with his birth - which should have never happened... he is not a playmaker, nor is he consistent, nor is he a good defender, nor should he have won that 96 dunk contest.... i'm out

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    And he sucked against Detroit... count it

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    Ron, if I recall correctly you showed up a while back declaring Barry the most worthless human being in the world. I want to know just what the Brent did to you. Steal your woman? Beat you up and take your lunch money as a kid? Told you he loved you, but left after he took your virginity? Your limitless hatred of him goes well beyond the normal "I don't like this player" sort of thing.

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    timvp is correct. Barry had very few trips as PG. He may have had some of TP's backup minutes in Games 5, 6 and 7, but he wasn't bringing the ball up that often. Manu was the primary playmaker when TP was out.

    Defensively, when TP was sitting, Barry defended Prince or Hamilton, not Billups and Hunter. They were Manu's and Bruce's assignment.
    The point is NOT who brought up the ball...If you want to judge the point guard on who brought up the ball...fine. But the point guards JOB IS TO RUN THE OFFENSE!!!! AND Barry RAN the offense better than anyone in games 5, 6, 7....Again...its about the game, not ONE aspect of the game. Not who scores the most points, not who brings the ball up...Its how the game is approached by the offense and who is running it. And in those games, when Barry picked up the back up point guard role, he RAN the game for the Spurs far better than Tony...AND MANU. Manu was the playmaker because he benefited from Barry running the point! Go back and watch the games, especially 6 and 7 when TP is out.

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    Agreed.

    I think there will be times this season when Finley gets the bulk of the backup swing minutes and other times when Barry will. In the playoffs, they'll both be very useful.

    Depth isn't a bad thing.
    Brent Barry for Johnson and Kleiza.

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    Why trade a shooting guard who can start to the Nuggets? that.
    Johnson could be much better next season for them besides he has much more potential.

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    Johnson would play even less than Barry this season.

    No need.

    No trade.

    And the numbers don't work anyway.

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    Johnson would play even less than Barry this season.

    No need.

    No trade.

    And the numbers don't work anyway.
    Denver is highly under the cap.

    If we could trade Barry for Kleiza and Johnson with a contract of 2 millons max for the first year then we would be able to re-sign Brown.

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    Denver is highly under the cap.
    Highly? Hoopshype doesn't include Andre Miller -- his deal puts them nominally over the cap for exception purposes. Giving Denver exactly what they need to contend for guys who won't play doesn't seem like the greatest of ideas regardless.

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    wtf would we trade a good shooting guard in Barry to a team like Denver, that could use him to beat us?!?!?!?


    That makes sense

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    wtf would we trade a good shooting guard in Barry to a team like Denver, that could use him to beat us?!?!?!?


    That makes sense
    i didn't know michael moore posted in spurstalk





    Guys ChumpDumper said it best...theres no need to do a god damn thing...this roster is off the heeze...finley did not sign up to play hardcore minutes

    barry played the entire season, had no surgeries this summer
    he hardly ever makes a mistake on the court
    he's a 3 point shooter
    ball handler


    if we get rid of barry simply to save money i swear to god its the fall of Rome all over again...it would be bonehead move of the year
    just say it out loud
    if we get rid of barry that means backup shooting guard duties will belong to MICHAEL FINLEY

    michael finley

    whottt is right....this name/person has never scared me or intimidated me into thinking he will ever hit a big shot or do jack ....hes a solid acquisition but theres no way in i would want him taking backup shootinguard duties...no way...especialy with Young Brown gone..

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    Interesting thought. Smitty actually had a decent first year here. We'll see.

    He was good up until the All Star Break.



    Best part is, even if Finley is a complete bust, we have other options.
    This is true. I didn't say it was going to cost us the le...but it might make it more difficult if he's not getting the PT he wants.










    (You mean he might be as bad during the regular season as Barry was last year. . .)
    Oh if he gets as many minutes as Barry he'll definitely put up better points than Barry did....but if he's jacking up a bunch of bad shots and making a lot of TO's(the two worst things about his game) he'll be more of a hindrance than a help.

    I am not certain he is going to be a bad pick up...I like Finley's character generally(althugh he is a Bowen whiner)...but there is a very good chance he'll turn out to be Smitty part 2.....I think the NVE pick up was the huge pick up for us...and if anyone makes Barry expendable it's NVE...not Finley. Finley really doesn't give us anything we don't already have...and he's used to starting, playing in an undisciplined offensive system where shots are not at a premium, and being the heart and soul of the team...none of which he will be here.

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    I am not on the Finley bandwagon yet...I think the guy is seriously over-rated...I think he is going to have a major struggle playing reduced minutes...I think he's going to have a problem with it...

    On top of that...I think Finley takes a lot of bad shots and makes a lot of dumb turnovers....he's got awful handles and always has...

    Not sold on Finely being a championship key yet...I predict the Mavs won't miss him in the slightest.

    As for Barry...

    Barry was our entire guard-SF rotation for the playoffs last year...not Beno, not Bigg Dogg, not Devin Brown...

    Barry may not put up a lot of points but he doesn't make stupid plays or turnovers and when he does take a big shot he usually makes it...

    This is not true for Finley...Finley has never scared me as an opponent...never, not once....Finley getting the ball late in the game has never rated a big measurement on the whottt clutch scale...unlike Nick the quick, who has always rated very highly...

    It does make sense to move Barry due to age and contract, but only if we are certain that Finely is who we want, but what happens if Finley doesn't want to return?
    And Najera would be a nice pick up...but I don't consider him a need.


    I hope the Spurs hold off on trading Barry...our biggest needs were a long SF and scoring punch...NVE takes care of the scoring punch...Finely doesn't do anything to fill those long SF needs IMO....he basically duplicates Barry's skills only he is much more willing to take a crappy shot or make a ty pass...and he's not going to defer to guys he should be deferring too as much as Barry does...

    In short....Finley has to prove he can be a role player...I don't think he can do it yet. Over-rated and overkill on this team.
    whottt comin with the rational input. refreshing! I was losing hope it existed on this board.

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    Barry also made his share of careless turnover (the extra pass with good intentions) and he was a liability on defense. But he is a very smart player and, as you've stated, he came up big in some games during the run.

    Having watched Finley here in Big D for several years, there is some credence to those criticisms of Finley. He's got a bad handle, can't create his own shot and will take bad shots. I worry about the flow of the offense with him because he doesn't pass well - never has.

    I was unaware that he shot so well from 3 pt line. I only hope he'll have a good year with us.
    You're wrong - Finley can create his own shot, especially if he goes left. When he gets into that zone he is really hard to stop shooting wise. And hes not a bad rebounder by any stretch of the imagination, and with tim duncan down in the middle to get him open looks at the 3pt line, I can more than imagine him having career numbers in 3pt percentage.

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    hes not a bad rebounder by any stretch of the imagination
    He is a horrible rebounder.

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    5 rebounds a game is horrible?

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    I mean for a guy 6-7, hes not a bad rebounder.

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    RonMex

    Let's file the 96 dunk contest under Never Should've Won along with Nash's 2005 Most Vaginal Placenta


    Also Barry for Barkley's all-time ring count plus one. Count it.

    Just try to think of Barry as a sort of Thunder Dan who had the common sense to let the great players on the team do all the work while he sat back and won a Championship.

    Seriously, as a Phoenix fan, you have no grounds on which to criticize Barry. Go wallow in your desert induced skin cancer.

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