Celts want Leonard

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

1. The Spurs will match any offer sheet for Leonard, so he'll be a Spur next season.

2. He'll get the max unless he chooses to take less and that is unlikely in the extreme.

3. With the huge cap increase coming in 2016, Leonard at the 2015 max will be a bargain.

4. The only real question is the length of the deal. The Spurs could have locked him up for five years last summer, now we'll see.

5. Lol sources.

I want a Ferrari, doesn't me I'll get one. Of course Celtics want him. He is probably the 3rd best SF in the behind Lebron and Durant if you base it off this past month's performance.

Just pipe dreaming by other teams. Chances of him leaving are the same as Davis leaving NO. Pretty much 0%.

[$pursDynasty]

I want a Ferrari, doesn't me I'll get one. Of course Celtics want him. He is probably the 3rd best SF in the behind Lebron and Durant if you base it off this past month's performance.

Just pipe dreaming by other teams. Chances of him leaving are the same as Davis leaving NO. Pretty much 0%.

This! the Spurs want Anthony Davis, that says nothing about the probability of them getting him. What team in the NBA wouldn't want Kiwi? Even the two teams with supposedly better SF would kill to have him on their roster.

[look_at_g_shred]

The entire league wants leonard.

[Brazil]

my sources
I have been right afterwards
reaching avante level

[Chinook]

The Spurs can unilaterally prevent Kawhi from signing a Parsons-like deal by stepping up with a Max QO, which they'll almost certainly do if Tim opts to keep playing. At that point, save accepting the QO, Kawhi would be on the Spurs for at least three more seasons.

[Cry Havoc]

[Silver&Black]

My sources are starting to tell me that apalisoc is a got....

[ChumpDumper]

I have repeatedly gave you guys predictions that happened afterwards.

When?

I'm not going to disclose my sources and where I get my information..That's incredibly stupid.

How would that be a change for you?

[jermaine]

Much more worried about losing Danny, tbh.

I'm with you bro... Kawhi ain't leaving. But Danny might. With Many retiring, Danny leaving, SG. I'll be a huuuuge hole to fill.

[Gay Robot]

I'm with you bro... Kawhi ain't leaving. But Danny might. With Many retiring, Danny leaving, SG. I'll be a huuuuge hole to fill.

Mind if I try filling that "huuuuge hole"?

[Plum Island]

Mind if I try filling that "huuuuge hole"?

Ha ha ha ha! Oh... crap... funny... Ha ha ha ha ha!

[ElNono]

That's not possible. Any offer sheet must contain at least two fully guaranteed years and at least three years in total. The Parsons deal is the shortest offer sheet that any RFA can sign.

Then what you're saying is that it's indeed possible. Two fully guaranteed max years and a player option for the third year would effectively make it a max/2y offer.

Agreed it would suck for the Spurs, but it would also be risky for Leonard.

EDIT: I'm re-reading what you replied to, and I see what you mean Mel_13... 2 year + PO is possible, the poster suggested 1 year + PO, which is indeed not possible.

[ElNono]

The Spurs can unilaterally prevent Kawhi from signing a Parsons-like deal by stepping up with a Max QO, which they'll almost certainly do if Tim opts to keep playing. At that point, save accepting the QO, Kawhi would be on the Spurs for at least three more seasons.

How does that work? A max QO only matters if he signs it, right?

[Mel_13]

Then what you're saying is that it's indeed possible. Two fully guaranteed max years and a player option for the third year would effectively make it a max/2y offer.

Agreed it would suck for the Spurs, but it would also be risky for Leonard.

No. The poster I quoted suggested that he could sign an offer sheet that would allow him to opt out after one season. Perhaps that poster misunderstood your post, but that's why I quoted him and not you.

[Mel_13]

How does that work? A max QO only matters if he signs it, right?

Making the max qo means that an offer from another team must contain at three guaranteed years.

[Chinook]

How does that work? A max QO only matters if he signs it, right?

Yes, but a max QO is for five years no options and max raises. It's pretty much going to be the contract Kawhi inks with the Spurs anyway, but the difference is that offering that kind of QO is more restrictive for teams trying to give offer sheets.

If the player is coming off the fourth year of his rookie scale contract, then in addition to a qualifying offer, his team can also submit a maximum qualifying offer. A maximum qualifying offer is for five seasons at the maximum salary with 7.5% annual raises. It can contain no options, ETOs or bonuses of any kind, and must be fully guaranteed. When a team submits a maximum qualifying offer (in essence "stepping up" with a maximum contract offer before the player hits the free agent market), it places a more stringent requirement on other teams' offer sheets (see below).

A player can elect to accept his qualifying offer and play the following season under its terms. This is sometimes done in order to become an unrestricted free agent the following summer (see question number 46).

When a restricted free agent wants to sign with another team, the player and team sign an offer sheet, the principal terms of which the original team is given three days to match.⁴ The offer sheet must be for at least two seasons (not including option years). If the player's prior team also submitted a maximum qualifying offer, then the offer sheet must be for at least three seasons (not including option years). If the player's original team exercises its right of first refusal within three days, the player is then under contract to his original team, at the principal terms of the offer sheet (but not the non-principal terms). If the player's original team does not exercise its right of first refusal within three days (or provides written notice that it is declining its right of first refusal), the offer sheet becomes an official contract with the new team.

[Mel_13]

In the end, I believe that Kawhi will sign a max five year deal with the Spurs that has a player option after the third year.

[Chinook]

In the end, I believe that Kawhi will sign a max five year deal with the Spurs that has a player option after the third year.

POs can only be before the final year.

[Mel_13]

POs can only be before the final year.

Thanks.

Then a 4 year deal with a PO before year 3.

[ElNono]

No. The poster I quoted suggested that he could sign an offer sheet that would allow him to opt out after one season. Perhaps that poster misunderstood your post, but that's why I quoted him and not you.

Yes, I edited my post to point that out. My bad.

BTW, didn't Lebron sign a Parsons-type deal too?

[ElNono]

Yes, but a max QO is for five years no options and max raises. It's pretty much going to be the contract Kawhi inks with the Spurs anyway, but the difference is that offering that kind of QO is more restrictive for teams trying to give offer sheets.

Thanks, but that sounds like playing hardball to me, especially the no bonuses, no ETO situation. I guess if Kawhi feels he's getting lowballed, he can always sign the 1 year QO and become a UFA next summer.

[ElNono]

In the end, I believe that Kawhi will sign a max five year deal with the Spurs that has a player option after the third year.

I think this is probably the most sensible way to go for him.

[Mel_13]

Yes, I edited my post to point that out. My bad.

BTW, didn't Lebron sign a Parsons-type deal too?

I believe that he signed a two year deal with an opt out after year one. That was a contract, not an offer sheet as he was unrestricted this past summer.

[Mel_13]

Thanks, but that sounds like playing hardball to me, especially the no bonuses, no ETO situation. I guess if Kawhi feels he's getting lowballed, he can always sign the 1 year QO and become a UFA next summer.

The purpose of the max QO is to limit what type of offer sheets other teams can offer. Kawhi and the Spurs can still negotiate any contract that is mutually agreeable.

[ElNono]

I believe that he signed a two year deal with an opt out after year one. That was a contract, not an offer sheet as he was unrestricted this past summer.

Thanks, forgot he was UFA.

The purpose of the max QO is to limit what type of offer sheets other teams can offer. Kawhi and the Spurs can still negotiate any contract that is mutually agreeable.

Yeah, but that severely limits his options if a mutual agreement can't be reached, especially if he's looking into cashing into a new contract within 2 years. I guess he has to suck it up for being a RFA... or play for the rookie scale for one more season and become a UFA.