The buses that were never used

[Nbadan]

Why, George Bush's fault, of course.

From Snoopes>>>

Whether this photograph truly represents a lost opportunity to have evacuated a substantial number of New Orleans residents ahead of Hurricane Katrina is difficult to assess. Such a claim presumes an availability of resources (e.g., experienced drivers, fuel) and workable logistics (e.g., sufficient means of notifying and getting residents to departure points, sufficiently clear roads for multiple trips out of town and back, adequate facilities within a reasonable driving distance capable of providing shelter, food, and water to a large number of people for an indeterminate period of time on short notice) that may or may not have been present. (There's no guarantee that all the buses shown in this picture were even in working condition.) And, given the particular geography of New Orleans, any such evacuation would have had to have begun well in advance of Hurricane Katrina to avoid exposing residents to the potential danger of being stuck in buses on traffic-clogged roads in the path of an approaching hurricane. Moreover, any type of evacuation effort would have incurred a substantial outlay of funds from local and/or state governments — while everyone agrees with the advantage of hindsight that would have been money well spent, many taxpayers might not have been left feeling so enthusiastic about footing the bill for an unnecessary evacuation had Hurricane Katrina not proved so damaging.

Hummm...isn't that what NBADAN has been saying all along? Besides, those of us who know how to read know that this was FEMA's call. They decided to stick everyone in the Superdome rather than risk driving them out of town and getting caught on clogged freeways.

[whottt]

They decided to stick everyone in the Superdome rather than risk driving them out of town and getting caught on clogged freeways.

Yeah..and poor New Orleans...everyone knows there is no food in New Orleans...because New Orleansians hate to eat...

I know every time I've been to New Orleans...I've always enjoyed it...except for the fact that I have to fast the entire time I am there, because there is no food in New Orleans...ever, as everyone knows.

It's amazing that having no food or water in the city hasn't hurt their tourism and prevented them from getting more Superbowls...

[Marcus Bryant]

....which, of course, is Bush's fault. Go figure.

[mouse]

[Shelly]

....which, of course, is Bush's fault. Go figure.

btw, my blaming Bush was sarcastic.

[The Ressurrected One]

They decided to stick everyone in the Superdome rather than risk driving them out of town and getting caught on clogged freeways.

Which wouldn't have been a concern if they'd of started the evacuation sooner...

[Spurminator]

More! More Aquafina! Soon this water will be drinkable again!

[Useruser666]

From Snoopes>>>



Hummm...isn't that what NBADAN has been saying all along? Besides, those of us who know how to read know that this was FEMA's call. They decided to stick everyone in the Superdome rather than risk driving them out of town and getting caught on clogged freeways.

Dan, where do get that crap from? It doesn't say anywhere in any way,shape, or form anything like what you just said.

[Marcus Bryant]

But it was on the internets! That proves his point.

[Useruser666]

More! More Aquafina! Soon this water will be drinkable again!

Why is his boat camouflage?

[The Ressurrected One]

Why is his boat camouflage?

So he can sneak up on evacuees...

[Shelly]

More! More Aquafina! Soon this water will be drinkable again!

Every time I see that picture, I have to laugh at his using a plastic cup to bail out water.

[Useruser666]

Every time I see that picture, I have to laugh at his using a plastic cup to bail out water.

Is he really bailing the water out, or trying to drown the paparazzi?

[Shelly]

Is he really bailing the water out, or trying to drown the paparazzi?

Good question!

[Al Sharpton]

[Marcus Bryant]

Only mouse could have managed to tie in the two major stories to have hit this forum in the last week in pictorial form.

[gtownspur]

Here is the letter from the Governor declaring a state of Emergency...



The full text of the letter follows:Gov,state.la.us

This idiot should read his own googles. Nowhere does it state in either articles that Fema was responsible for evacuation. Only was it responsible for relief.

[Nbadan]

FEMA has untold power during these times

This is true. FEMA didn't have to wait for the Governor to hand control of the city over to the FEDS, especially after Governor Blanco declared a State of Emergency in NO on August 28th. The President can take control of the National Guard and whatever other resources he needs with a simple Presidential stroke of the pin, but that pin stroke never came because the WH wanted to lay the blame on the lack of appropriate planning and supplies in the evacuation centers on the locals.

*during the Rodney King riots in LA President Reagan took control of the California National Guard

[whottt]

This is true. FEMA didn't have to wait for the Governor to hand control of the city over to the FEDS, especially after Governor Blanco declared a State of Emergency in NO on August 28th. The President can take control of the National Guard and whatever other resources he needs with a simple Presidential stroke of the pin, but that pin stroke never came because the WH wanted to lay the blame on the lack of appropriate planning and supplies in the evacuation centers on the locals.

*during the Rodney King riots in LA President Reagan took control of the California National Guard

LOL you are finally right about something...Bush most certainly could have Federalized the Louisiana Guard and ripped the authority from the Govenor...and it was indeed a mistake for him not to do so.

Because you should never leave the modern Democratic Party in charge of any emergency...because they are not capable of doing anything these days other than blaming Bush.

However since he didn't do that...FEMA doesn't now, nor did it ever, have authority in Louisiana, their power was limited to granting the requests of the govenor as she made them...and the Louisiana Guard wasn't in New Orleans prior to the Hurricane(seriously)...and Bush cannot Federalize a police force...

FEMA is designed to support state and local governments...it is designed to be a support organization...her main motivations for pusing for the SOE were financial...not because she wanted Bush ripping power from her...she doesn't even want to share power.

But you are right...Bush not stripping that incompetent Democrat of her authority over the Louisiana Guard is the worst mistake anyone made in all of this.

LOL..classic...it's Bush's fault because he respected the authority of a Democratic Govenor, sadly you are right though. Bring on that Presidential Dictatorship and let's get rid of the last vestiges of the Democrat Power Base...


LOL you are now a political suicide bomber...


And Reagan wasn't President during the Rodney King incident or the riots.

[Nbadan]

LOL you are finally right about something...Bush most certainly could have Federalized the Louisiana Guard and ripped the authority from the Govenor...and it was indeed a mistake for him not to do so.

Because you should never leave the modern Democratic Party in charge of any emergency...because they are not capable of doing anything these days other than blaming Bush.

However since he didn't do that...FEMA doesn't now, nor did it ever, have authority in Louisiana, their power was limited to granting the requests of the govenor as she made them...and the Louisiana Guard wasn't in New Orleans prior to the Hurricane(seriously)...and Bush cannot Federalize a police force...

FEMA is designed to support state and local governments...it is designed to be a support organization...her main motivations for pusing for the SOE were financial...not because she wanted Bush ripping power from her...she doesn't even want to share power.

But you are right...Bush not stripping that incompetent Democrat of her authority over the Louisiana Guard is the worst mistake anyone made in all of this.

LOL..classic...it's Bush's fault because he respected the authority of a Democratic Govenor, sadly you are right though. Bring on that Presidential Dictatorship and let's get rid of the last vestiges of the Democrat Power Base...


LOL you are now a political suicide bomber...


And Reagan wasn't President during the Rodney King incident or the riots.

Whatever Whott. The fact remains that W never federalized either the preparations for the Hurricane nor the search and recovery phase after the storm. To you it may seem hilarious that thousands of Americans died because the FEDS were too busy playing political games to do their job effectively, but once the truth comes out and the do ents show that both the Mayor and Governor followed the letter of the law, we will see how funny all of this really is.

[whottt]

Is it lost on you that in your unrelenting hatred of the Bush administration you are now advocating that an Administration you despise take a big ideological piss on the 10th admentment at the direct expense of your political party...just so you can make him look bad?

You are criticizing him for respecting the authority of one of your own party leaders...

Not only that..but states rights have long been the backbone of the Republican Party, so it should not surprise you that a Republican President was loathe to on them, especially a Democrat Govenor...Even more ironic is that Bush is continually criticized by the Democrats for not respecting States rights.

You're insane. Your party is insane.

[whottt]

Whatever Whott. The fact remains that W never federalized either the preparations for the Hurricane nor the search and recovery phase after the storm.

Nor did the Govenor want him to do so....

That's what you overlook...she didn't want him to do that...she didn't even want to share power...she wanted to be in charge so she could look like a strong leader and she got in over her head.

To you it may seem hilarious that thousands of Americans died because the FEDS were too busy playing political games to do their job effectively,

Respecting the authority of a Democratically elected Democrat Govenor is Political Games?

but once the truth comes out and the do ents show that both the Mayor and Governor followed the letter of the law, we will see how funny all of this really is.

Bush granted that everything she asked for, in advance...

Bush followed the letter of the law as well...so did FEMA...but what the Govenor and Mayor did not follow was their own ing evacuation plan.

And in case you haven't noticed...the Mayor and Govenor are at each others throats these days...so even if what you say is true...they are still ty leaders who are now sniping at each other rather than unified. The weakness of character under pressure still shines through. They failed...

No one is denying FEMA ed up getting supplies through...but this Govenor and Mayor were the weakest links in this...

[Nbadan]

Is it lost on you that in your unrelenting hatred of the Bush administration you are now advocating that an Administration you despise take a big ideological piss on the 10th admentment at the direct expense of your political party...just so you can make him look bad?

You are criticizing him for respecting the authority of one of your own party leaders...

Not only that..but states rights have long been the backbone of the Republican Party, so it should not surprise you that a Republican President was loathe to on them, especially a Democrat Govenor...Even more ironic is that Bush is continually criticized by the Democrats for not respecting States rights.

You're insane. Your party is insane.

What state's rights? Whott, that Republican party is long dead. Today’s Republican party is about Federalized National Security, a National ID card, interventionism, and control from the top down.

No, my friend, it is not my party which is insane, it is your party which has been philosophically hijacked under your very nose, and all you can do, because you have no real sense of what's real or not anymore because you’ve been lied to so much , is to keep supporting a slowly sinking ship.

[Nbadan]

Respecting the authority of a Democratically elected Democrat Govenor is Political Games?

That's bull , the FEDS were gonna lay the blame for the whole thing on the Governor and the Mayor and the Governor saw through that.

[cecil collins]

Is it lost on you that in your unrelenting hatred of the Bush administration you are now advocating that an Administration you despise take a big ideological piss on the 10th admentment at the direct expense of your political party...just so you can make him look bad?

You are criticizing him for respecting the authority of one of your own party leaders...

Not only that..but states rights have long been the backbone of the Republican Party, so it should not surprise you that a Republican President was loathe to on them, especially a Democrat Govenor...Even more ironic is that Bush is continually criticized by the Democrats for not respecting States rights.

You're insane. Your party is insane.

How is it that you get off scott-free of your hatred for anything left of a nazi. I would say you defend Bush more relentlessly than Dan attacks him. I still don't believe you were a democrat.