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I stated my opinion based on seeing him play for many years and all you can say is ˝that is STUPID˝? Tell me your opinion about him (based on something), not just talk smack.
I corrected myself and you are a MORON, IMO.
I stated my opinion based on seeing him play for many years and all you can say is ˝that is STUPID˝? Tell me your opinion about him (based on something), not just talk smack.
Glad to see us Argies aren't the only international homers in the forum, lol.com´on people..
sorry but i just cant stand some of you really do believe everything from journalists.. and you write about him, but acctually you forgot that you haven´t seen him yet!! -god mother 3 games in athenas.. i sure that is enought to write really detail scouting report.
- 1. he´s not slow!!! where did you get this??
ok, - he´s not the greatest athlete ever, but slow?? he is also pretty good ballhandler, but noone write about this. he is just a european guy, who is so damn good, that some are scared for american players, cuz there will be another place on all-stars game taken by european guy. this is the truth. and some write about him really just bed things, like how slow is he.. and how low his numbers are( numbers in EL have a bit different sense) ..
-2. what i expect?? i know him pretty good. i live in Ljubljana, and i´m fan of club that beno, rasho, saras many other nba players played for. so i saw his every game in that season, and many other games in maccabi and barca. i can say that i know a lot about him, and i know him personally,. we are not like close friends, but we meet once maybe twice a year till now. and i can say about him::
- the best passer on the world right now
-born leader
-makes everyone better around him
-not the greatest shooter, ( there in eu are many better shooters for 3p)but he has abillity to hit in clutch moments. perfect go to guy.
-best creativity i have ever seen, ( that makes him such a unique player) you will soon see what he can do with ball in his hands. i believe his game can be even more spectacular, cuz he will play with great black athlets, so we can expect many alley-oops, ..
- he´s not slow
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What I find extremely funny, is the fact that people believe that this guy will be able to compete with Two Thousand and Five's athletes.
Yeah and he is from 18th century.
Best player in europe for some time now imo would be dejan bodiroga. Sarunas beeing best passer in the world is also objective, put some mediocre guy in the best team and he would be best passer in the world. The fact is, that sarunas can play and he will do just fine in nba, some of you thinks to much of the NBA, the gap aint that high (well maybe in money)Olympics and WC anyone? Those slow and underated guys owned your asses for some years now...
You wanted an opinion about where he'd have been picked in the draft - NOT how good he is. I think people here gave their opinions on late 1st or 2nd/or not a draft pick on him because of his age and fitting. Why in the a lottery team is gonna invest on a 30yr old guard playing his first season in NBA? I understand a lottery team trading their pick for Nash, but why a 30yr old NBA-rookie? And for the other observation that a contender could pick him to help themselves, contenders usually will have low draft pick consistently ( leaving Det of '03, no other contenders had a top pick in recent drafts). So even after looking at his potential, proven record (outside of NBA world), he'd have been still a late 1st or a 2nd roucnd pick at best.
This thread was never about his immediate impact in NBA nor about his skills. It was just about DRAFT PICK - period.
So people dont have right to speak about other things related to sarunas in this thread and need to open a new thread for every single thing different than just about DRAFT PICK?
You'd have to assume it's that way if people link your comment on draft pick to his impact on a team. One shouldn't get offended if someone says he'd have been a no or low draft pick. That's my point. most guys who gave their opinion on the probable draft pick didn't even make a remark on his playing abilities, yet some people thought we were underestimating this guy, which is not true.
Maybe you should let him play 1 game before you pronounce him worthless.
Who said anything about worthless!? You asked people's opinion, and now if they don't agree with you, it automatically means they are saying he is worthless. Great logic!
Exactly! I never asked these guys on here how good he is, now everyone is going nuts on me like I think he's the second coming of Jesus or something. Dam you guys on here are TOUCHY!!! I'll know better next time.
When did anyone not agree with me? I didnt even say he was a good player, I think you're getting me mixed up with someone else. All I'm saying is you're telling J7fan let him play a game first before he's on his , so all I'm telling you is let him play one game before you say the you're saying.
??? Let him play a game before you say this. I guess you didnt watch the olympics.
And again....
I think probably second round if he was picked now. The idea of the draft is to get young talent. He doesn't really fit that. He has great achievements in Europe but as we have seen with Manu it can take a few years to properly transfer your playing styles. Meaning by the time he became aclimatised he would be 32+, and he doesn't have Manus athleticsm.
If were talking young Jasi-k then undrafted just like what happened.
You all have to understand, Jasikevicius is considered the greatest point guard in European history. think about the greatness that's come out of Europe, and to think that this guy is the best. That's sick talent. He was 2nd in the league in assists and 17th in scoring. That translates to about 21 ppg, 9.5 apg in the NBA. He's basically a slightly bigger and better shooting and passing Steve Nash. 29 or not, that won't slip past the mid-teens.
In Europe, Saras is to Magic Johnson what Manu is to Clyde Drexler. Basically, Saras skills > Manus skills.
Check out this sick puppies accomplishments..
No. In terms of basketball skills, Sarunas Jasikevicius is currently more skilled than any player in the past draft. Sure, Chris Paul, Deron Williams etc. could end up better, but it's far from a given. Is Sarunas Jasikevicius was as good as he is now coming out of NCAA, he wouldv'e been a top-5 pick. He's a BASKETBALL GOD in Europe. The most beloved player perhaps in European histrory, even more so than Petro or Sabonis. It's almost as if he's a cult hero.Won the 2000-01 and 2002-03 Spanish National Championship with F C Barcelona...won the 2003-04 and 2004-05 Israeli National Championship with Maccabi Tel Aviv...won the 2000 Slovenian National Cup with BC Olimpija Ljubljana...won the 2001 and 2003 Spanish National Cup (King's Cup) with F C Barcelona...won the 2004 and 2005 Israeli National Cup with Maccabi Tel Aviv...won the 2003 Euroleague with FC Barcelona...won the 2004 and 2005 Euroleague with Maccabi Tel Aviv...played the 1999 Lithuanian All Star Game...played the 2000 Slovenian All Star Game...played the 2001 Spanish All Star Game...named the 2002-03 Spanish League Finals MVP...named the 2005 Euroleague Final MVP...named to the 2003-04 and 2004-05 All-Euroleague 1st Team...led the 1998-99 Lithuanian League in assists (5.4 apg.)...led the 1999-00 Euroleague in assists (4.9 apg.)...led the 2003-04 Euroleague in free throws shooting percentage (92,5%)...led the 2003-04 Israeli League RS in three points shooting percentage (57,0%)...named the 2002 Lithuanian Player of the Year...has been member of the Lithuanian Cadets National Team...played at the 1993 European Cadets Championship...has been member of the Lithuanian Junior National Team...won the gold medal at the 1994 European Junior Championship...has been member of the Lithuanian Under-22 National Team...won the gold medal at the 1996 European Under-22 Championship...member of the Lithuanian National Team...played at the 1997, 1999 and 2001 European Championship...won the gold medal at the 2003 European Championship...named the 2003 European Championship MVP...won the bronze medal at the 1998 Goodwill Games...played at the 1998 World Championship...won the bronze medal at the 2000 Olympic Games...played at the 2004 Olympic Games.
Man, with Artest Factor throwing in the "God Factor" on Sarunas, I wonder what Sarunas' real worth.
OK, we were having a normal discussion, until "The Artest Factor" came and officially declared Jasikevicius a basketball god. Jeez, and you thought we Argentinians were over the top with the Church of Manu, this guy has been canonized without even playing a game for Indiana.
Mixing crack with weed, mushrooms and booze won't do any good for your health. Jasikevicius isn't considered the best point guard in European history without a doubt. You are comparing him to Magic Johnson, that's wrong. In Europe, Dejan Bodiroga was compared to Magic, because of his passing skills for a man of his size.Jasikevicius is considered the greatest point guard in European history. think about the greatness that's come out of Europe, and to think that this guy is the best. That's sick talent. He was 2nd in the league in assists and 17th in scoring. That translates to about 21 ppg, 9.5 apg in the NBA. He's basically a slightly bigger and better shooting and passing Steve Nash. 29 or not, that won't slip past the mid-teens.
In Europe, Saras is to Magic Johnson what Manu is to Clyde Drexler. Basically, Saras skills > Manus skills.
Check out this sick puppies accomplishments..
Jasikevicius' style has nothing to do with Steve Nash. Nash is quicker and more explosive in penetration, while Jasikevicius is more a traditional PG with better shooting.
Oh, yeah, In Europe Manu=Drexler, Jasikevicius=Magic? Manu had such dominance of the game over there in his last two seasons, that he was even called "Euro Kobe" (without rapping anyone).
Following your very well informed opinion, we can compare other players:
Gasol>Duncan
Petrovic>MJ
Marciulonis>Pippen
Darko>Shaq
Tskitishvili>Larry Bird
Raul Lopez>John Stockton
Cut the crap. Petrovic and Sabonis are both the most respected and admired European players ever. Jasikevicius has a long way to go to get there, for a start, to win a major le with his National Team.He's a BASKETBALL GOD in Europe. The most beloved player perhaps in European histrory, even more so than Petro or Sabonis. It's almost as if he's a cult hero.
Isn't this entire thread opinion based? I'm pretty sure that was the point of the thread...
While Sarunas is definitely a superb player in European standards I think some people expect to much of him in the NBA. I kinda doubt he will ever be anything more than a backup point guard (even with his reputation). Maybe if he went to the NBA a few years ago... I do believe though that he will be one of the better sixth men around, maybe even a contender for the "best sixth man" award, we'll see.
Oh and, at this moment he would probably be drafted somewhere between 20 and 25.
I like that "left hand" remembered petrovic, if you want to talk about greatness, petrovic should be the first in line of european players (and not only for his bb skills) Shame for his early death
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Get over people. It doesn't matter where he would've been drafted, the fact of the matter is he's the most popular and one of the most decorated basketball players in Euroleague history.
He was better in the Euroleague than Manu Ginobili ever was, so it's quite reasonable to say he'll be better in the NBA than Manu. And Manu is an All-Star. Albeit an iffy one, similar to Wally Szczerbiak a few years back, but an All-Star none the less.
If Saraunas Jasikevicius went to the Spurs, I can all but gurantee you he would be starting over Tiony Parker before Christmas.
http://www.pacersdigest.com/sarunas/USA_Lithuanie.wmv
Check out that highlight from the Olympics. Saras single handedly defeats Team USA< including Tim Duncan. Lithuania is down 4 with a little over 3 minutes to go. Saras busts out an amazing 4 point play to tie it up, then comes down, drains a 3, comes down again, drains another 3, then sinks 2 free throws in the final seconds to ice it. Thats right, he scored the final 12 points, all in around 3 minutes, in Lithuania's huge win over team USA.
He's Reggie Miller and John Stockton rolled into one.
this is good. I was starting to think us Spurs fans were overly homer about our players, but now I understand its every single team. Sarunas is going to be a bust, and you little Pacers won't make the Eastern Conference Finals. Live with it!
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