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    Good afternoon Mr. Chumpdumper,

    If you can spare some time today please provide me with actual links of the MSM covering OP's topic so I can PM Kori and ask that the thread be deleted due to being made under false pretense.

    Regards,

    Mr. TSA
    You already saw them.

    Trouble is, you guys keep trying to move the goalposts on the definition of mainstream media with every post.

    If you want to say you are fake outraged by the fact the arrests were not on enough national media outlets for you, just say so.

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    You already saw them.

    Trouble is, you guys keep trying to move the goalposts on the definition of mainstream media with every post.

    If you want to say you are fake outraged by the fact the arrests were not on enough national media outlets for you, just say so.
    Mr. Chumpdumper,

    You never once posted these links, if you are too busy to provide the links you keep referencing just say so, no hard feelings.

    Regards,

    Mr. TSA

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    Mr. Chumpdumper,

    You never once posted these links, if you are too busy to provide the links you keep referencing just say so, no hard feelings.

    Regards,

    Mr. TSA
    Sure I did.

    If you are too loathe to look back in the thread and/or want to play stupid about it, just say so -- no hard feelings.

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    Sure I did.

    If you are too loathe to look back in the thread and/or want to play stupid about it, just say so -- no hard feelings.
    Is this the link you keep referencing that shows the MSM not ignoring it?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22Antoine+Lawson%22
    If so please share which links within the link you consider the MSM reporting on it.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Are you outraged?

    So now you have moved the goalposts yet further just to include the evening broadcast of CBS News.

    OK.
    Toros photography does not prepare you well for debates.

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    Is this the link you keep referencing that shows the MSM not ignoring it?



    If so please share which links within the link you consider the MSM reporting on it.

    Thanks in advance.
    Already discussed.

    You wanted to move the goalposts.

    That's fine.

    You consider local affiliates alternative media.

    That's fine.

    You are fake outraged that the arrests didn't make more national news outlets.

    That's fine.

    I await your next round of fake outrage. Keep reading those blogs.

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    Toros photography does not prepare you well for debates.
    What is being debated here?

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    Already discussed.

    You wanted to move the goalposts.

    That's fine.

    You consider local affiliates alternative media.

    That's fine.

    You are fake outraged that the arrests didn't make more national news outlets.

    That's fine.

    I await your next round of fake outrage. Keep reading those blogs.
    mainstream does not mean local

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    mainstream does not mean local
    It can only be national?

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    It can only be national?
    It would have to be by definition of it being for the masses. Local only reaches a limited audience. Local is small business and reaches a small audience. Local media doesn't set popular trends nor do they help in shaping popular oppinion.

    Mass Media is the synonym to Mainstream Media. Mainstream means core, defining, the ideas, at udes, or activities that are regarded as normal or conventional; the dominant trend in opinion, fashion, or the arts etc.

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    Are you outraged?

    So now you have moved the goalposts yet further just to include the evening broadcast of CBS News.

    OK.
    Everyone who you respond to is outraged.

    Why do you ask so many questions but never answer any? I didn't say anything about the evening broadcast. CBS news has a website as well.

    The OP states that mainstream media ignored it. If only one affiliate of one media outlet reported on it, and it was never a front page story.. it's been ignored by all the other mainstream media. So to be pedantic like you're being, the OP is technically correct unless you can prove no mainstream media source ignored it.

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    It would have to be by definition of it being for the masses. Local only reaches a limited audience. Local is small business and reaches a small audience. Local media doesn't set popular trends nor do they help in shaping popular oppinion.

    Mass Media is the synonym to Mainstream Media. Mainstream means core, defining, the ideas, at udes, or activities that are regarded as normal or conventional; the dominant trend in opinion, fashion, or the arts etc.
    So what is the minimum number for "the masses"?

    Is there a dictionary definition of the number involved? I'd like to see that.

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    You lost this debate when you showed your google example and it backfired.

    You lost it a second time when you goal post shifted by insisting that local media that reports on the local weather, local kennel shows, and high school football as being Mainstream Media .

    The Journalism, Pundit class, and anyone educated beyond UTSA disagrees with you.

    face it your nick should have been Chumphandpumper.

    Go fetch your lost marbles.

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    Everyone who you respond to is outraged.

    Why do you ask so many questions but never answer any? I didn't say anything about the evening broadcast. CBS news has a website as well.

    The OP states that mainstream media ignored it. If only one affiliate of one media outlet reported on it, and it was never a front page story.. it's been ignored by all the other mainstream media. So to be pedantic like you're being, the OP is technically correct unless you can prove no mainstream media source ignored it.
    But there are clearly mainstream media sources.

    You want to narrow the definition of mainstream media for the purposes of this particular argument.

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    You lost this debate when you showed your google example and it backfired.

    You lost it a second time when you goal post shifted by insisting that local media that reports on the local weather, local kennel shows, and high school football as being Mainstream Media .

    The Journalism, Pundit class, and anyone educated beyond UTSA disagrees with you.

    face it your nick should have been Chumphandpumper.

    Go fetch your lost marbles.
    How many people are needed to be "the masses", gtown?

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    So what is the minimum number for "the masses"?

    Is there a dictionary definition of the number involved? I'd like to see that.
    At best with this attempt all your doing is stating that none of you could be wrong or right. But since TSA posted a story from a differing state and raised the point that Texans and most of the other 50 states haven't heard the story, is true. That would be the masses. He set the tone and definition. You just came in here inflamed because you didn't like the narrative and now hope that your semantic game will deflect the issue.

    We all heard about trayvon from MSM sources in every state.

    We did not however hear from the OP's story except for him posting it on Spurstalk.

    Trayvon recieved MSM coverage, the other story didn't.

    What else do you have to add.

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    But there are clearly mainstream media sources.
    Actual links please.

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    How many people are needed to be "the masses", gtown?
    Masses is an abstraction or concept. It means many and is served by context. Only an idiot would ask for an abstraction to be quantified.

    Ex. How many nice gestures equals true love ?

    Ex 2. How many happy thoughts does it take to reach euphoria?

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    But there are clearly mainstream media sources.

    You want to narrow the definition of mainstream media for the purposes of this particular argument.
    You'd have to prove that He's the only one narrowing it. Noam Chomsky backs his definition, so do countless journalistic and academic sources. Discourse does not play by the rules of the ignorant.

    Set a link or reference source that backs up your defintion of MSM.

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    At best with this attempt all your doing is stating that none of you could be wrong or right. But since TSA posted a story from a differing state and raised the point that Texans and most of the other 50 states haven't heard the story, is true. That would be the masses. He set the tone and definition. You just came in here inflamed because you didn't like the narrative and now hope that your semantic game will deflect the issue.

    We all heard about trayvon from MSM sources in every state.

    We did not however hear from the OP's story except for him posting it on Spurstalk.

    Trayvon recieved MSM coverage, the other story didn't.

    What else do you have to add.
    So what is the minimum number for "the masses"?


    I'm using your definition now -- gotta be for the masses, right? How many people minimum can make up "the masses"?

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    You'd have to prove that He's the only one narrowing it. Noam Chomsky backs his definition, so do countless journalistic and academic sources. Discourse does not play by the rules of the ignorant.

    Set a link or reference source that backs up your defintion of MSM.
    I already posted the reference. My dictionary definition trumps yours since it actually says mainstream media.

    If you think Heast, Scripps, Tribune and CBS aren't mainstream, you need to explain why -- you are free to use Chomsky to argue against it.

    I agree this hasn't gotten national coverage -- but mainstream media has reported on it.

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    So what is the minimum number for "the masses"?


    I'm using your definition now -- gotta be for the masses, right? How many people minimum can make up "the masses"?
    you can't quantify an abstract concept to an exact number. You must use context.

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