White House to okay negotiating with terror groups holding U.S. hostages

[spurraider21]

Serious question, how many foreign kidnappers keep track of these policies

i don't know. do you?

they usually know who their targets are, know what country they're from. it's logical to assume they'd know these sorts of policies, but i can't say for sure. can you say for sure?

[spurraider21]

Do harm to who exactly?

future victims, for starters

[TheSanityAnnex]

Blake still a cuck

Tale as old as time.

The cuck ship sailed long ago. 2015 is all about transgender bigotry. Seriously, get some new material.

[Clipper Nation]

The cuck ship sailed long ago. 2015 is all about transgender bigotry. Seriously, get some new material.

[Blake]

Blake still a cuck

Tale as old as time.

^ calm lividness

[Blake]

i don't know. do you?

they usually know who their targets are, know what country they're from. it's logical to assume they'd know these sorts of policies, but i can't say for sure. can you say for sure?

I have no idea. That's why I'm asking

[Blake]

future victims, for starters

but not really to the US

[ChumpDumper]

As if them receiving said ransom would lower the hostage death rate close to 0% lol

You might want to take a look at the hostages from countries that allow such negotiations.

I'm sure you haven't

[spurraider21]

but not really to the US

lol

[Blake]

lol

so if the US positioned isn't effected, what's left..the families?

So the law to make it illegal to pay ransom is just there to protect future families while the family with the actual kidnap victim suffers?

[spurraider21]

so if the US positioned isn't effected, what's left..the families?

So the law to make it illegal to pay ransom is just there to protect future families while the family with the actual kidnap victim suffers?

it is aimed to deter. if you dont negotiate, there is no benefit to taking hostages. when you start negotiating in an effort to save current victims (which may or may not work), you are also providing further incentive for these incidents to repeat, putting even more people in harms way

its fine though. obama did it, so you need to find a way to tell yourself it was the right thing to do. i get it.

[Blake]

it is aimed to deter. if you dont negotiate, there is no benefit to taking hostages. when you start negotiating in an effort to save current victims (which may or may not work), you are also providing further incentive for these incidents to repeat, putting even more people in harms way

speculation.

But in reality, prosecuting families that have kidnapped members gives them automatic death sentence.

its fine though. obama did it, so you need to find a way to tell yourself it was the right thing to do. i get it.

det spurraider illogical conclusion technique

[spurraider21]

speculation.

But in reality, prosecuting families that have kidnapped members gives them automatic death sentence.

except they already rarely prosecuted families who are negotiating ransoms. the only thing they've done is make a public statement of weakness and a willingness to bend over

[Blake]

Meh, the weakness angle is pretty weak.

To get to the main point, prosecuting families that are already enduring emotional anguish and fear is just beating them while they're down. That's really it.

[Th'Pusher]

except they already rarely prosecuted families who are negotiating ransoms. the only thing they've done is make a public statement of weakness and a willingness to bend over

We're the terrorists unaware that the U.S. Rarely prosecuted families who are negotiating ransom?

[spurraider21]

We're the terrorists unaware that the U.S. Rarely prosecuted families who are negotiating ransom?

i have no clue

[spurraider21]

Meh, the weakness angle is pretty weak.

To get to the main point, prosecuting families that are already enduring emotional anguish and fear is just beating them while they're down. That's really it.

yeah well according to the article, as ive said a few times now, they already weren't prosecuting them

[Th'Pusher]

i have no clue

Really? Upstream you seam pretty convinced they were aware of the law to prosecute was on the books. Why wouldn't they know the law was actively being enforced. You seem to think the kidnappers are pretty well informed as far as I can tell.

[spurraider21]

Really? Upstream you seam pretty convinced they were aware of the law to prosecute was on the books. Why wouldn't they know the law was actively being enforced. You seem to think the kidnappers are pretty well informed as far as I can tell.

the US has a generally known policy of "not negotiating with terrorists." making a public statement that they are now willing to hedge on that is what i'm not happy with

[admiralsnackbar]

the US has a generally known policy of "not negotiating with terrorists." making a public statement that they are now willing to hedge on that is what i'm not happy with

The government position hasn't shifted. Are you conflating official state policy with the potential actions of individual citizens?

[Th'Pusher]

the US has a generally known policy of "not negotiating with terrorists." making a public statement that they are now willing to hedge on that is what i'm not happy with

That general policy hasn't changed.

[Th'Pusher]

The government position hasn't shifted. Are you conflating official state policy with the potential actions of individual citizens?

He is. Op just hates Obama with his heart soul mind and body.

silly man

[Blake]

yeah well according to the article, as ive said a few times now, they already weren't prosecuting them

But the potential to prosecute was there. Families were receiving mixed messages from different government agencies about how to handle the situations.

http://www.latimes.com/world/middlee...623-story.html

[spurraider21]

The government position hasn't shifted. Are you conflating official state policy with the potential actions of individual citizens?

are you being purposely obtuse? the state policy in question is specifically about actions of individual citizens

[TheSanityAnnex]

You might want to take a look at the hostages from countries that allow such negotiations.

I'm sure you haven't

It appears you have. I would be interested in seeing successful hostage ransoms paid to those held hostage by Middle Easterners.