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    Some of you are way too damn paranoid.

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    Okay, but what should we do about it?

    I would look up alot more information ont he internet, about what onstar* can do, and what it can't do

    Then i would decide, after what you've read here in this thread, if you think its good or bad.

    Then either spread the word about what you feel or write your congressman a letter or something.

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    Just about everything in our society is a slippery slope away from ing up the country.

    Church, guns, immigration, the Internet, Clorox Bleach...

    But if you try to stop every hypothetical crisis at its non-threatening root, you up the country in an entirely different way.

    Now, you guys aren't going that far... But it does undermine the message.

    And that message might be necessary (and seem more credible to the average person) at a later time, when the threat is more credible.

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    Just about everything in our society is a slippery slope away from ing up the country.

    Church, guns, immigration, the Internet, Clorox Bleach...

    But if you try to stop every hypothetical crisis at its non-threatening root, you up the country in an entirely different way.

    Yeah, good point there, for sure. But at the very least we should try to keep people's eyes open to what could happen, as opposed to providing more means to include children in onstar* commercials.

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    sw some underestimate the new powers of the government and the advancement of technology
    which are both at record growth..., at the same time..., now...these days

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    Damn, I'm being watched when I go to HEB. Curses!

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    Damn, I'm being watched when I go to HEB. Curses!

    they're probably checking you out when you're gardening too.

    I dont think they can watch you yet though. In physics class last year we calculated what resolution would be required to read a liscence plate from outer space, and we're still a long ways from acheiving that kind of resolution.

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    Yeah, good point there, for sure. But at the very least we should try to keep people's eyes open to what could happen, as opposed to providing more means to include children in onstar* commercials.
    I just think getting the word out and "warning" people about something that isn't really a problem yet damages the chances that the message will be accepted when it is a real concern.

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    I can't stand any of the on-star commercials. They're one of those companies that is so self-congratulatory it's nauseating. Besides, my ex-boyfriend used to have it and he thought their service was pretty unimpressive - they even gave him the wrong directions once.

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    sw some underestimate the new powers of the government and the advancement of technology
    which are both at record growth..., at the same time..., now...these days

    I guess the whole gist of it is: I really don't care if they know where I am or not...I'm not hiding anything, and I seriously doubt they give a where I do my grocery shopping, unless they eventually contract with HEB so they can send me coupons. Which I'd gladly accept, btw.

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    thats the wrong at ude to have
    ill have mine on the side of my personal privacy, DON'T want to trust the government for no reason...
    but thats just me, a leftyleftolib

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    I just think getting the word out and "warning" people about something that isn't really a problem yet damages the chances that the message will be accepted when it is a real concern.

    but some see it as a problem already

    those intelligence bills they've signed since 9/11, the patriot act, the patriot act II

    all of these have a common thread: Increased Government powers to monitor and control the common american people.
    It's happening already people, thats why 'crazy paranoid' types are popping up randomly

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    paII aka domestic security enchancemnt act

    name not so Patriotic

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    Damn, I'm being watched when I go to HEB. Curses!
    I don't care if "they" are watching me. If they're that bored let 'em.
    I could use the attention anyway.

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    The Patriot Act is worth debating, and it's probably a more efficient use of your time.

    But you wouldn't have much success campaigning against the Patriot Act by discouraging people from having Library cards...

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    The Patriot Act is worth debating, and it's probably a more efficient use of your time.

    To me, they are different arms of the same beast.

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    But then so are library cards and email...

    Go for the head.

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    Just go out into the backwoods of Montana, live in a shack without any electricity or running water and churn out a screed about the evils of technological progress.

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    But then so are library cards and email...

    Go for the head.

    yeah i guess so. But some would be more poweful or meaningful than others.

    For example, useruser brought up the internet in general, which is correct...but at least we can use the internet for discourse, information for our own brains, etc
    same for library cards

    but others, such as the other privacy issues, have no strong advantage imo

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    Just go out into the backwoods of Montana, live in a shack without any electricity or running water and churn out a screed about the evils of technological progress.

    I'd much rather memorize all depth charts, salaries, and free agent preferences, while scoffing other people from a blanket of anonymity, never ceasing to be smug.

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    I guess the whole gist of it is: I really don't care if they know where I am or not...I'm not hiding anything, and I seriously doubt they give a where I do my grocery shopping, unless they eventually contract with HEB so they can send me coupons. Which I'd gladly accept, btw.

    ditto. I'm sure they'd find me pretty damn boring. But maybe they could let my oldest know they are watching him every time he punches his little bother and there just might not be Christmas presents for him this year if he doesn't knock it off.

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    Just go out into the backwoods of Montana, live in a shack without any electricity or running water and churn out a screed about the evils of technological progress.
    Then, call your screeds a "manifesto," and start sending mail bombs. Right?

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    marcus you got owned!

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    For example, useruser brought up the internet in general, which is correct...but at least we can use the internet for discourse, information for our own brains, etc
    same for library cards

    but others, such as the other privacy issues, have no strong advantage imo
    Sure, in your opinion... But some people value the security of being able to track down their stolen Corvette as much or more than access to free books.

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    I'd much rather memorize all depth charts, salaries, and free agent preferences, while scoffing other people from a blanket of anonymity, never ceasing to be smug.
    What are you doing with your time?

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