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    What is the past is not necessarily the future. Also, perhaps a Devin Brown who doesn't wilt like a wet flower in the postseason would have been more useful than Brent Barry.
    Throughout the entire history of the league, finding a roll playing swingman has been the easiest position on a team to fill while big men and PGs were the most difficult. I don't see that changing anytime soon as genetics dictate there will simply be more humans that are "swingman" size than there will be 7 foot tall people that become basketball players.

    Brent didn't exactly melt like a wet flower during the Finals. In fact, he hit several big shots while Devin was sitting on the bench nursing his back like an old lady in a chiropractor's office.

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    I would still have Devin than Fin any day of the week and twice on Sundays
    and nobody's gonna convince me otherwise

    as for having them both, that's just greedy and wouldn't be good for either player and any one who believes it would be good for both players is fooling themself

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    The point is thisevin would have been defensive "insurance"for Bruce.

    Who on the current roster can step up on defense if Bowen goes down?

    Manu? He would get into foul trouble. Bones? Give me a break. Devin took

    his minutes because Barry couldn't defend. Finley? There were games last

    season when it looked as if he could barely walk,let alone defend. Forget the

    distant future; the Spurs need a young SF for this upcoming season.

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    The guys who keep posting that the Spurs should have kept Devin are the same guys who cry at night for Malik, Antonio Daniels, and Ron Mercer to come back to the Spurs.

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    The guys who keep posting that the Spurs should have kept Devin are the same guys who cry at night for Malik, Antonio Daniels, and Ron Mercer to come back to the Spurs.
    C'mon dude, that aint right. Funny, but not right.

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    DA's price was a bit more than 1 year for $2.5 mil and I had no problem seeing him go and stated so at the time.
    Let's see. The Spurs didn't think he was worth it, and didn't screw their future by overpaying. What has Derek Anderson done since leaving besides whine about getting paid even more and get hurt?

    I can't believe you're crying about DA - the dude has been a scrub and a disappointment since leaving SA, and you're sitting here taking juvenile shots at Holt because the Spurs couldn't have their own member of the all-bust team getting overpaid.

    Boo f'in hoo.

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    C'mon dude, that aint right. Funny, but not right.
    It may not be right, but it sure seems like it. Its pretty dumb to ASSUME that the Spurs made a huge mistake in not re-signing Devin Brown when the season hasn't even started don't you think? Its premature. Did anyone predict last year that Seattle would give the Spurs a good fight in the second round last year in the playoffs? No. You can't assume things in life period! That's all I'm trying to say. To keep saying that letting D. Brown go was wrong isn't right. Even if you're talking about as a basketball decision or as a financial reason. No one knows what is going to happen.

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    Let's see. The Spurs didn't think he was worth it, and didn't screw their future by overpaying. What has Derek Anderson done since leaving besides whine about getting paid even more and get hurt?
    Retaining DA would have been a 4 or 5 year commitment for $40+ million. Not 1 at $2.5 mil.

    The reason I had no problem with that decision was related to the cap, not the fiscal impact.


    I can't believe you're crying about DA - the dude has been a scrub and a disappointment since leaving SA, and you're sitting here taking juvenile shots at Holt because the Spurs couldn't have their own member of the all-bust team getting overpaid.

    Boo f'in hoo.
    That's because I wasn't "crying". I said I had no problem with that decision. Also, that was a $40 million contract, not $2.5 mil. Retaining him would have limited the Spurs' options when David Robinson retired. DA was not a good candidate to be the Spurs' 2nd star.

    RIF.

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    The guys who keep posting that the Spurs should have kept Devin are the same guys who cry at night for Malik, Antonio Daniels, and Ron Mercer to come back to the Spurs.
    The Spurs paid Ron Mercer something like $7 million to do nothing one season. They paid Steve Smith, who's game had long before left him, $9 million.

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    The Spurs paid Ron Mercer something like $7 million to do nothing one season. They paid Steve Smith, who's game had long before left him, $9 million.
    Yet the Spurs keep proving to everyone that they are one of the best year in and year. Yet the Spurs keep winning. WHAT THE IS YOUR POINT?

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    It may not be right, but it sure seems like it. Its pretty dumb to ASSUME that the Spurs made a huge mistake in not re-signing Devin Brown when the season hasn't even started don't you think? Its premature. Did anyone predict last year that Seattle would give the Spurs a good fight in the second round last year in the playoffs? No. You can't assume things in life period! That's all I'm trying to say. To keep saying that letting D. Brown go was wrong isn't right. Even if you're talking about as a basketball decision or as a financial reason. No one knows what is going to happen.

    Maybe premature to you. However, the point of this forum is to offer opinions and I am of the opinion that this decision to let Devin walk (without compensation, mind you) may come back to "bite the Spurs in the ass".

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not of the mindset they should have signed Devin to simply let him rot on the bench. I'm saying that if Devin was healthy, perhaps the Finley move wasn't warranted.

    Let's not forget that Devin, before his injury, had forced his way into the rotation at the expense of Barry - who was the Spurs top FA signing over last summer.

    In my mind, a healthy Devin would have given them as much or more than Finley. It's not like Devin was a piece of Kandi-man type trash. The guy can play and should only get better.

    I have no doubts about the potential success of this season. It's next year that I'm concerned about and the age of the guys the Spurs currently have at the swing position.

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    If Devin is such an irreplaceable talent why didn't Miami, Phoenix, Detroit, and the T Wolves chase him instead of Devin? Does Marcus know something that Riley, Colangelo, Dumars and McHale don't?

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    Yet the Spurs keep proving to everyone that they are one of the best year in and year. Yet the Spurs keep winning. WHAT THE IS YOUR POINT?

    So there's no room for improvement, they never make a mistake and this will never change.

    I'm sorry, I will pledge my allegiance to Emperor Holt and never once question him again.

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    If Devin is such an irreplaceable talent why didn't Miami, Phoenix, Detroit, and the T Wolves chase him instead of Devin? Does Marcus know something that Riley, Colangelo, Dumars and McHale don't?
    No.

    They knew he was a restricted free agent and that the Spurs had his Early Bird rights. Utah needed a 2, had some cap room laying around and Devin had some fam in SLC.

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    Maybe premature to you. However, the point of this forum is to offer opinions and I am of the opinion that this decision to let Devin walk (without compensation, mind you) may come back to "bite the Spurs in the ass".

    Don't get me wrong. I'm not of the mindset they should have signed Devin to simply let him rot on the bench. I'm saying that if Devin was healthy, perhaps the Finley move wasn't warranted.

    Let's not forget that Devin, before his injury, had forced his way into the rotation at the expense of Barry - who was the Spurs top FA signing over last summer.

    In my mind, a healthy Devin would have given them as much or more than Finley. It's not like Devin was a piece of Kandi-man type trash. The guy can play and should only get better.

    I have no doubts about the potential success of this season. It's next year that I'm concerned about and the age of the guys the Spurs currently have at the swing position.
    You have a good opinion no doubt. I'm not saying people shouldn't post their opinions, but to keep basing them over and over on (not saying you are) "what ifs" is annoying. You can't...let me rephrase that...you SHOULDN"T assume the moves the Spurs made this off-season were mistakes. Let the season start and the playoffs come around. That's when we'll all see if the moves they made this off-season were good ones. You guys may be right you may not be. That's all I'm trying to say.

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    So there's no room for improvement, they never make a mistake and this will never change.

    I'm sorry, I will pledge my allegiance to Emperor Holt and never once question him again.
    There is always room for improvement and if you were to read the postings I laid out here earlier I never said the Spurs don't make mistakes. I know they have, do, and will, but they are a good franchise. They've proved to all of us NBA fans that they have a pretty good idea about what they are doing. Again Marcus, I'm not saying Holt is the smartest man or the king of whatever. I'm just saying the Spurs in general have done well overall and seem to be on the right track to keep doing so.

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    You have a good opinion no doubt. I'm not saying people shouldn't post their opinions, but to keep basing them over and over on (not saying you are) "what ifs" is annoying. You can't...let me rephrase that...you SHOULDN"T assume the moves the Spurs made this off-season were mistakes. Let the season start and the playoffs come around. That's when we'll all see if the moves they made this off-season were good ones. You guys may be right you may not be. That's all I'm trying to say.
    No doubt. These moves will certainly make for some very interesting "off season" evaluation fodder - especially AS THE 2006 NBA champions.

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    You have a good opinion no doubt. I'm not saying people shouldn't post their opinions, but to keep basing them over and over on (not saying you are) "what ifs" is annoying. You can't...let me rephrase that...you SHOULDN"T assume the moves the Spurs made this off-season were mistakes. Let the season start and the playoffs come around. That's when we'll all see if the moves they made this off-season were good ones. You guys may be right you may not be. That's all I'm trying to say.
    Wow, I thought this was a DISCUSSION board, not an echo-chamber for the Spurs' F.O.

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    No.

    They knew he was a restricted free agent and that the Spurs had his Early Bird rights. Utah needed a 2, had some cap room laying around and Devin had some fam in SLC.
    Marcus Evans was restricted but got an offer from Detroit. Damien Wilkins was restricted but got an offer from Minnesota.

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    Perhaps that was because Brown was regarded as being a lock to be matched by the Spurs.

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    Wow, I thought this was a DISCUSSION board, not an echo-chamber for the Spurs' F.O.
    No kidding.

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    Teams could have used Spurs interest in Finley to lock up Brown. THey could have made an offer early and while Spurs were sitting on Finley seven days may have expired. Better explanation is Wilkins and Evans were more desired.

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    So just because someone agrees with the front office their views are an "echo-chamber."

    I thought this was a DISCUSSION board, not a bash the front office 24/7/365 board.

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    Wow, I thought this was a DISCUSSION board, not an echo-chamber for the Spurs' F.O.
    No kidding.
    Unlce Remus and Marcus Bryant were probably fired by the Spurs front office and now use every opportunity to bash them. Go ask Mark "I'll spend whatever it takes to suck" Cuban for an application.

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    Perhaps that was because Brown was regarded as being a lock to be matched by the Spurs.
    BS. Perhaps that's because he has an inoperatable back condition that has ruined the careers of many players that had a lot of potential. Everybody else in the league knows the Spurs' tendency to be fiscal responsible. If Devin had so much potential without a cloudy injury, a team would have given him an offer that they felt had a good chance of not being matched by the fiscally responsible Spurs. That did not happen.

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