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  1. #76
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    dak for bortles straight up

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    Prescott simply has...IT. Hopefully we don't start seeing him selling every damn thing in commercials, I don't like to see that for young players, being a celeb doesn't help things.

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    I'd take Dak over any qb under 30. Seriously, dude is a seriously intelligent young man. He stays in the pocket, reads the defense and doesn't make much mistakes. He doesn't go deep but his intermediate passing game is really good.
    Cowboys fans ing up a storm over the first few games of a gimmick QB. Sounds a lot like Niners fans, Seahawks fans, Redskins fans and Panthers fans a few years ago.

    Dak isn't even the best rookie QB in his own division this year. Wentz is a lot better than him. He's also not the best quarterback on his own team's roster. Romochoke still is when he's healthy.

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    Prescott simply has...IT.
    Slowwwww dowwnnnnn, rookie~~~~~~it's only, WEEK....8....hahahahaha!!!!

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    dak for bortles straight up
    I wouldn't do that trade even if you threw all the jags' 2017 draft picks in.

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    Slowwwww dowwnnnnn, rookie~~~~~~it's only, WEEK....8....hahahahaha!!!!
    Dude, ya notice how I don't....HE'S GREAT~~~~ MVP MVP MVP...YIPPPEEEEEEEEE DAK PRESCOTT~~~~~~~

    I keep it cool, I don't get all carried away like a rookie like you. OBVIOUSLY...the kid as...IT. And that's all he has right now, ok rookie?

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    Dak is already superior to a player like Derek Carr IMHO
    disgusting take... you need the old yeller treatment

  8. #83
    1. Coon Newton
    2. Andrew Luck
    3. Derek Carr
    4. Russell Wilson
    5. Matt Stafford

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    1. Coon Newton
    2. Andrew Luck
    3. Derek Carr
    4. Russell Wilson
    5. Matt Stafford
    Can't argue with this list. Maybe swap Wilson with Stafford imo

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    If he can stay healthy with that offensive line, by the end of this season there will no longer be any debate about who the best young QB is....Russell Wilson~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    HE'S GREAT~~~~ MVP MVP MVP...YIPPPEEEEEEEEE RUSSELL WILSON~~~~~~~

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    HE'S GREAT~~~~ MVP MVP MVP...YIPPPEEEEEEEEE RUSSELL WILSON~~~~~~~
    All anyone ever has to do is take a few minutes (like I have) and Google all the great QB's and see how they did at the same stage of their career. It's all right there staring at us. Nobody has done it better if we're talking...

    starts
    wins
    QB rating
    playoff success
    TD/INT
    rushing

    ...combined. Russell Wilson the best 4 years and 8 games QB we have seen.

    And the guy has never sat on a bench, never missed a game.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    The Luck rebound is real

    Tier 1 - Luck, Cam, Carr, Wilson, Stafford (in no particular order, though I'd probably have Luck #1)

    Prescott in tier 2 due to sample size

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    The Luck rebound is real, he's #1 on this list.
    Compare what I just listed, see what ya find.

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    - number of starts dont concern me unless you're talking about having a big enough sample size. i'd care more about passing attempts or attempts/game than just a number of starts

    - wins are important but also need to be in context of team situation. unfair to compare luck to wilson based on wins, when seattle has a great roster and indy is largely trash

    - ditto for playoff success

    - qb rating is a decent stat, like PER for basketball, but it's also largely useless without context. wilson has a high qb rating because he's effiicent. but his volume is lacking, only 7 TD's halfway through the season

    - TD/INT is decent, but again needs context. if a QB throws for 70 yards on a drive but then team punches in a 1 yard rushing TD vs a team rushing for 70 yards and then the qb dumps off a 1 yard TD, those obviously unequal situations score equally in a dry ratio

    we know you cherry pick particular things wilson scores well in and just repeat them

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    - number of starts dont concern me unless you're talking about having a big enough sample size. i'd care more about passing attempts or attempts/game than just a number of starts

    - wins are important but also need to be in context of team situation. unfair to compare luck to wilson based on wins, when seattle has a great roster and indy is largely trash

    - ditto for playoff success

    - qb rating is a decent stat, like PER for basketball, but it's also largely useless without context. wilson has a high qb rating because he's effiicent. but his volume is lacking, only 7 TD's halfway through the season

    - TD/INT is decent, but again needs context. if a QB throws for 70 yards on a drive but then team punches in a 1 yard rushing TD vs a team rushing for 70 yards and then the qb dumps off a 1 yard TD, those obviously unequal situations score equally in a dry ratio

    we know you cherry pick particular things wilson scores well in and just repeat them
    Ya mean...

    wins games
    never misses a game
    throws thee times more TD's than INT's
    NFL record....4000/30/500
    NFL record...QB rating first two seasons
    led the NFL in 2015 with a 110.1 QB rating
    Yards rushing
    Comp %

    ...boy that's some cherry picking, sheesh~~~

    This..he must play on a team,...is ridiculous. How many HOF QB's played on teams?

    As of right now (Career) Luck has a QB rating of 86.2, RW at 100.5.

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    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    yeah, you just repeat yourself over and over again. games played, wins, qb rating, td/int ratio. again and again.

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    Wilson shouldn't be in anyone's tier one tbh, especially after failing to score a TD in nearly a month.

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    yeah, you just repeat yourself over and over again. games played, wins, qb rating, td/int ratio. again and again.
    Well when ya talk about what makes a successful band, how many ways can ya say....record sales? When ya talk great RB's, how many ways can ya say....yards gained?

    When ya talk great QB's, what base doesn't RW cover? And what QB was at his best before 30? And what other QB had a more impressive first 5 seasons than RW, well?

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    Wilson shouldn't be in anyone's tier one tbh, especially after failing to score a TD in nearly a month.
    I'll take a 4 year stretch over a 3 week stretch where he was virtually unable to move

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    Wilson shouldn't be in anyone's tier one tbh, especially after failing to score a TD in nearly a month.
    Give me the name of any QB, not just under 30, who had a better first 4 seasons and 8 weeks than RW, who?

    Last night he had a 137 QB rating. And as we all know he plays better in the second half of the season.

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    The best numbers that Tom Brady put up before 28.

    comp %...63.9, RW....68.1
    yards....3764, RW...4024
    TD/INT...28/12, RW...34/7
    QB rating....92.6, RW...110.1

    I'll ignore rushing, ha~~~~~

    When you compare players, you go with at the same stage of a career, ok?

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    Cowherd just said this.....

    What's hurting Jared Goff is Dak Prescott. Wentz is hot and cold, Paxton Lynch is sitting, Mariota is just so so, Winston is struggling, Andrew Luck is losing.

    Notice where he's going there, notice who he didn't mention?

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    Under 30 QB with most playoff wins?

    Russell Wilson

    Highest QB rating?

    Russell Wilson

    Best TD/INT ratio?

    Russell Wilson

    Most wins in a career?

    Russell Wilson

    Best combo of passing and rushing?

    Russell Wilson

    Only under 30 QB to win a SB?

    Russell Wilson

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