mmmm...look at my sig and take a guess
I still wouldn't put Wade behind Kobe.
Kobe was the most effecient 2 gaurd in the game last year and still had "poor" year. Manu obviously doesn't have the stats or the minutes to compete just yet. That doesn't mean he coudn't put up the numbers if given the opportunity. Now for a hard working and fearless compe or...not many can compare to Gino.
I'd probably put him at 3 behind Kobe and McGrady. Alot of people are putting Wade ahead of him and I don't really agree with that for the moment. Dwayne will probably be a better player in the long run but at the moment I'd take Manu. Here's the biggest reason why I think he belongs that high up: If Manu got traded to ANY team in the league he would instantly make them better. Most of those guys listed have to be the go-to guy or they wouldn't be happy. Manu has proven that he could be a #1 scoring threat for an NBA team, but he's comfortable with simply doing his job on his team. As so many others have pointed out, he's a winner.
How the is he gonna get top 3 stats playing on such a well balanced team? Put him on the raptors and he could drop 30 a night. Sometimes you should get up off your brain before posting.
Yea he sure is, I wish the Spurs management had your kind of wisdom, maybe they'd send him to the Pacers for Reggie's salary
to me that +/- is the most important factor in where I personally rank players.
Becasue it;s all about hte TEAM baby and what you can bring to the TEAM!
Manu's got "it". Whatever "it" is that can win championships with or without Tim Duncan or against a Tim Duncan in the team.
Take out Manu out of the Spurs line-up and Tim doesn't look that great in the this past playoff run.
You wont look great playin with 2 bumb ankles mate
Hold your horses...so if Manu was on Toronto he would average 30 points...please. He's good but that's not going to happen. Oh and also effeciency per minute doesn't mean anything. Playing heavy minutes is a testement to itself that will wear down a player. It's one thing to play like an all-star for 25-30 minutes than it is for playing 40-45 as a superstar.
Where would I rate Manu Ginobili? Hmm...He's not Kobe Bryant or Tracy McGrady...but then again in a way he is. Damn, Manu can dunk, fly and do all the stuff them guys do and he is always on a winnning team.
I watched pretty much every game in the 2004 olympics and I was really impressed with Manu. Remember Argentina won it all and Manu was the main reason why. He was their star, but he wasn't selfish. He was very calm and played wonderful basketball.
Both Argentina and the San Antonio Spurs play team ball. It seems like people tend to forget that basketball is a team sport and think it's something individual. Hence; Kobe, T-mac, VC, Ray Allen and players like that are ranked very high. But Baskteball is a team sport and Manu is a team player. I know that saying that he's a team first guy doesn't sound that hot but it is! That's what basketball is all about, the team!
I gotta rate Manu as the top SG in the world. Here is my equation on Manu's greatness.
NBA All Star+Olympic Champion+NBA Champion=Manu Ginobili!
Need I say more? I'll mention this, I think Manu's best year is going to be this season. Can't wait for it to start!
Define what a superstar plays like.
See: Kobe BryantDefine what a superstar plays like.
Now I know I'm pretty much a Kobe Jocker...but damn K9 you make me laugh. I guess Kobe's rings weren't about team ball...it was just him jacking up all those shots....every championship team sacrifces the self for the whole. It all depends on what you're looking at.Where would I rate Manu Ginobili? Hmm...He's not Kobe Bryant or Tracy McGrady...but then again in a way he is. Damn, Manu can dunk, fly and do all the stuff them guys do and he is always on a winnning team.
I watched pretty much every game in the 2004 olympics and I was really impressed with Manu. Remember Argentina won it all and Manu was the main reason why. He was their star, but he wasn't selfish. He was very calm and played wonderful basketball.
Both Argentina and the San Antonio Spurs play team ball. It seems like people tend to forget that basketball is a team sport and think it's something individual. Hence; Kobe, T-mac, VC, Ray Allen and players like that are ranked very high. But Baskteball is a team sport and Manu is a team player. I know that saying that he's a team first guy doesn't sound that hot but it is! That's what basketball is all about, the team!
I gotta rate Manu as the top SG in the world. Here is my equation on Manu's greatness.
NBA All Star+Olympic Champion+NBA Champion=Manu Ginobili!
Need I say more? I'll mention this, I think Manu's best year is going to be this season. Can't wait for it to start!
I think he wanted to know the definition of Superstar, not
"The Most Selfish Superstar in the League who won't ever win a ring again"
He and Shaq aren't so different yet they couldn't get along. How ironic.
Mouse is getting his ass owned in this thread.
He doesn't have "It". He has the same thing Sean Elliott had. No not 1 kidney. Duncan and a strong supporting cast. Put Manu on the Warriors and he's a nobody. Put Manu on the Jazz and he's a nobody. Put Manu on any non-playoff team and he's a nobody.
Wally Szczerbiak was putting up better numbers than Manu has ever put up, and he even made the All-Star team. Look at where he is now.
Manu Ginobili = Wally Szczerbiak
He doesn't have "It". He has the same thing Sean Elliott had. No not 1 kidney. Duncan and a strong supporting cast. Put Manu on the Warriors and he's a nobody. Put Manu on the Jazz and he's a nobody. Put Manu on any non-playoff team and he's a nobody.
Wally Szczerbiak was putting up better numbers than Manu has ever put up, and he even made the All-Star team. Look at where he is now.
Manu Ginobili = Wally Szczerbiak
HA HA HA AH Man you are a funny mofo.....Manu is a great player and thats why he has earned the respect of many superstars in the league. Don't hate because your beloved Ron Artest sucks ass and is Bipolar. Leave the real basketball information to adults go play in your Pacer's clubhouse or something god damn it
He doesn't have "It". He has the same thing Sean Elliott had. No not 1 kidney. Duncan and a strong supporting cast. Put Manu on the Warriors and he's a nobody. Put Manu on the Jazz and he's a nobody. Put Manu on any non-playoff team and he's a nobody.
Wally Szczerbiak was putting up better numbers than Manu has ever put up, and he even made the All-Star team. Look at where he is now.
Manu Ginobili = Wally Szczerbiak
Manu wins anywhere he plays.Wally "world" doesn't. No comparison by far! Manu is higher intellectually and is a master of the court.
He doesn't have "It". He has the same thing Sean Elliott had. No not 1 kidney. Duncan and a strong supporting cast. Put Manu on the Warriors and he's a nobody. Put Manu on the Jazz and he's a nobody. Put Manu on any non-playoff team and he's a nobody.
Wally Szczerbiak was putting up better numbers than Manu has ever put up, and he even made the All-Star team. Look at where he is now.
Manu Ginobili = Wally Szczerbiak
If Manu is lucky playing with Duncan he is going to be even better with his compatriate Oberto.Like Duncan said,"he hasn't even scratched the surface of what he(Manu)can do"
Manu,doesn't have to have the greatest stats,he just has to be on the floor and Bowen will take care of rest.!
Man this already, I can't wait to see the Spurs beat the out of the Pacers, so that these stupid Pacer's fans would stfu already. They think they have a better team, they have an oft-injured Power Foward, a Criminial crazy ass (should be admitted to Belvue) Small Foward, a piece of point guard, a nobody center, and nothing of a shooting guard, yet they think that the Spurs are a worse team....trying to cuts on Manu???? On Tim??? there's a reason the Spurs have 3 rings in the past 7 years, how man do the damn Pacers have, oh yeah i forgot none their asses can't even get passed the 3rd round......The Heat will play the Spurs this year in the Finals count on it.
The Arest Factor= LakeGod
Hi all. I feel that Manu is awesome, but putting him before freakish talents like Kobe and McGrady is just wrong. Image a team with Tim Duncan and Kobe or McGrady. The 1 thing about Manu that wins over Kobe or McGrady is that he is a team player, and All-Star caliber team players are hard to come by.
Kobe = McGrady > Manu = Wade
Okay look i never said he was better than them i said he is awesome...
this is how i see it...
TMAC>Kobe
Wade<Kobe
Manu>Wade
^ o!
I was kind of responding to rummpd when he wrote that:
"Kobe>Wade>McGrady>Manu>VC"
Because I think McGrady is at least as good as Kobe and Manu is at least as good as Wade, and both McGrady and Kobe are a knotch above Manu and Wade.
But I suppose we all agree Manu is AWESOME!
Assumiong they're on the same team, ten seconds to go down one I'd rather have the ball in Manu's hands than in Kobe's or TMac's hands.
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