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    best lineup vs. Golden State ...
    The resident geniuses here at Spurstalk would insist the lineup must include Boban and Simmons.

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    Hasn't DG been the better defender on Curry anyways?

    Kawhi doesn't guard 1s that well. He's better suited to guarding SGs and SFs because of his length, size and hands. If there's one thing KL doesn't have, it's great foot speed. He's got enough of it to guard SGs and SFs at an elite level, but he's struggled against PGs in the past. I'd imagine he'd guard Klay 80% of the time, the other 20% on Curry to give him a different look.

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    I do think a Manu/Green/Kawhi/Diaw/Aldridge unit could be effective as well. Gives us mismatches at both PF and C (Barnes on Diaw, Draymond on Aldridge), and we'd have a huge advantage on the boards.
    Why does everyone think a Diaw lineup would give the Spurs a huge advantage on the boards? He has one of the worst rebound rates among bigs in the league (10% last year, and even worse this year). Compared to centers, he's only above guys like Bonner, Kaminsky and Bargnani and adding in PFs, he's bottom ten in the league amongst bigs.

    Yes, it helps that Duncan and Leonard grab a bunch of rebounds with him on the floor, but we've seen how the team gets killed on the boards without TD or Aldridge in.

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    One, Green cant get Diaw, and you must always think of cross matchups. I rather leonard posting up Barnes than Green. Although Diaw posting up barnes is a big mismatch.
    Just because diaw guards draymond, that doesn't mean draymond would guard diaw. The warriors get to choose who their players guard.

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    Why does everyone think a Diaw lineup would give the Spurs a huge advantage on the boards? He has one of the worst rebound rates among bigs in the league (10% last year, and even worse this year). Compared to centers, he's only above guys like Bonner, Kaminsky and Bargnani and adding in PFs, he's bottom ten in the league amongst bigs.
    Because he'd be going up against Harrison Barnes at PF...?

    Kawhi/Diaw/Aldridge vs. Iguodala/Barnes/Draymond - you really don't see rebounding being a noticeable advantage in that situation?

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    Because he'd be going up against Harrison Barnes at PF...?

    Kawhi/Diaw/Aldridge vs. Iguodala/Barnes/Draymond - you really don't see rebounding being a noticeable advantage in that situation?
    Barnes is just as good a rebounder as Diaw. Heck, Steph Curry rebounds as well as Diaw.

    The advantages come elsewhere - agree that the Spurs have to dominate on the glass, but Diaw's not the key to that. That's not to say he's not essential to combating small ball. The ideal situation is if you can somehow keep Aldridge and Duncan out there for some minutes together.

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    Just because diaw guards draymond, that doesn't mean draymond would guard diaw. The warriors get to choose who their players guard.
    I am not sure who in the warriors could guard Diaw. They might have to trust Green. But Diaw backups Green down far easier than I have seen, and is nifty enough to beat his aggressive defense. Warriors have been forced to double Diaw last year.

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    The best guy to defend Curry are guys with quick hands. Just look where Curry how he takes the shot. He takes them like a girl, so the release point is very low. That kind of short seems to have more accurate for the following reasons (1) More strength (2) more stable being released lower and finally quicker release from a dribble. Mr Curry has invented a new way of shooting that'll be the norm in a couple of years.

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    worst take ever

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    No. we dont counter GSW, we make GSW counter our bigs, which they cant. LMA, Duncan, Diaw, Kawhi. Bogut is a walking cripple. draymond green can only guard forwards. The only adjustment id make is Kawhi on Curry on defense.
    This right here! Exactly what I was going to say.

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    No. we dont counter GSW, we make GSW counter our bigs, which they cant. LMA, Duncan, Diaw, Kawhi. Bogut is a walking cripple. draymond green can only guard forwards. The only adjustment id make is Kawhi on Curry on defense.
    I'd love a third 3 and D wing to throw against them should Kawhi or Green get into foul trouble, but I think you alternate Kawhi/Green on Curry to keep both fresh. Some Patty on him trying to draw charges could work for a few possessions, or even some other non-conventional defenders - just not long stretches.

    If Klay gets hot, you can focus more attention to him but it's more important to force him off the three point line as the defense does well and stick with him. He's going to get his, but you live with that - he's not the shooter or facilitator Curry is. I'd rather have Manu and Parker on him and the other wings, than being anywhere close to Curry. The other guy you need to keep away from Parker is Livingston, who will body him up over and over again. I like Manu against him.

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    Simmons / Green / KL / West / Aldridge

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    For crunch time where the Warriors would most likely play:

    Curry, Thompson, Barnes, Iguodala, Green.

    Spurs should play:

    Mills, Manu, Green, Kawhi, Boris.

    And let's see whose basketball is more beatiful.

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    Spurs should be paying me tbh. Pop starting Kawhi on Raymond like I said he should.

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    Spurs should be paying me tbh. Pop starting Kawhi on Raymond like I said he should.
    I said the same thing tbh

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    Nice call, OP.

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    OP with the goods, as usual..

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    OP doesn't have a PG in his lineup. I give it a C plus.

    Better than Mid got though.

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    we don't need to counter them, they need to counter us.
    op with the goods

    The leonard on green matchup for pick and roll purposes was a resounding success. Biggest surprise was TP actually showing up like that defensively

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    op with the goods

    The leonard on green matchup for pick and roll purposes was a resounding success. Biggest surprise was TP actually showing up like that defensively
    I'm growing more comfortable with the idea of Parker on Thompson. He's become much better at getting to and finishing at the rim but when he has a mismatch he pretty much just posts up and shoots a fade away over his left basically everytime. Only 1 time did he even attempt to take it in vs Mills and he easily scored a layup

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    The X-Factor is going to be Diaw b/c if Pop plays LMA/Diaw against the "death squad" Barnes has to check him in the post so as long as he can play passable defense he can stay on the floor & take advantage. Z-Bo was able to play passable defense for 3 games so it's possible.

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