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Keep moving the goal post , eventually you might score.
We're talking about Kobe, he's not leaving 50 mil on the table.Kobe really hurt his image by not retiring after the injury, tbh..I don't think I've seen a player's legacy do a 180 so quickly..
Could have ended his career in legendary fashion, making a FT after tearing his Achilles..would have been the lasting memory for everybody..
Keep moving the goal post , eventually you might score.
You doubled down on stupid. Did the Kobe retirement send you into full re mode? Kobe is just the "famous" face in LA. He's far from being a leader of anything other than salary and missed shots.
Shouldn't you be sleeping by now? are you up so late anyway....
Because I'm a grown ass man who goes to bed when he wants. I don't have a "need" to be in bed, don't open any laundry or donut shop. I work from my home.
Keep saying dumb and pretending to make sense, sausage fingers.
Tell me again how Tim is in the 90's generation when Shaq himself issued this out to people... .
Kobe is a legendary sociopath so I can see how he's manipulated the media and third worlders that make up his fanbase. But anyone that loves the game or winning is going to pick Duncan imo.
Here's another one with over half a million votes. It's unanimous.
Highlight when I said "90s generation" when I was referring to Shaq and/or Tim fatass.
Tell me again how Tim is in the 90's generation when Shaq himself issued this out to people... .
At 39 years old, Tim Duncan is still a vital piece to a championship contending team, is still an elite rim protector and is a top 10 player at his position (center).
At 37 years old, Kobe is a complete has been playing on an all-time terrible team/roster (in the Lakers franchise history), bogging the team down with his highly inflated salary and ball-hogging to an eventual sub 30% field goal percentage.
Ask me again, who is the best player of his generation? Cause the answer surely doesn't involve that bum wearing #24 in purple and piss.
Kobe got drafted BEFORE Tim but yet he isn't part of the the 90s generation. I guess he doesn't qualify b/c he was a scrubby ass bench player
Found this comment in the ESPN-Poll comment section.
Kobe was obviously the better scorer and assist man throughout his career, but Duncan's definitely been the better overall player and will have had the better career when it's all said and done. Duncan's a better defender, better rebounder, better shot-blocker (top 5 all-time), better team player (sacrificed personal stats & took numerous paycuts to better the team, Kobe did the exact opposite), and most importantly, the better winner.
If you really want to dig deep and look at Advanced Statistics (Off. efficiency, Def. efficiency, PER, +/-, win shares, etc.), other than Assist % & Off. Win Shares, Duncan is better than Kobe in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY over the span of their careers. Every single one. Duncan has a career PER of 24.4, Kobe has a career 23.1.
If you want to talk hardware, Duncan wins there too: More MVPs, more Finals MVPs, & ROY Award. Accolades? Duncan has Kobe beat once again: More All-NBA Defensive teams, same amount of All-NBA teams as Kobe in one fewer season, only 2 less All-Star game appearances in one fewer season (only b/c Kobe was voted in last season by the fans when he clearly shouldn't have), and also has a better playoff record than Kobe. Duncan was also the unquestioned leader for his first 3 les, Kobe wasn't. Duncan has never gone a single season without winning at least 50 games in his entire career, Kobe has gone 7 seasons (likely 8 after this year). Duncan is 12th All-Time in Win Shares, Kobe is 50th (!!).
For eveyone that wants to say Duncan had more help, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili did not have a single All-Star game appearance between them until 2005-2006. Duncan had already led his team to 2 Championships and was in the middle of winning his 3rd. David Robinson didn't win anything until Tim Duncan was drafted, and was far past his prime in 2003 for Duncan's 2nd le. Tim had help, but not any super-stars around him like Kobe had Shaq for his first 3 les. And don't act like Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Derek Fisher, & Lamar Odom weren't awesome contributors during the Lakers' '08 & '09 les.
Both are historically great players who will go down as 2 of the best to ever play the game of basketball, and I mean no disrespect to Kobe b/c he truly is a great player, but all the signs point to Duncan being the best player of his generation. Numbers don't lie. Not to mention Duncan is still playing really well and contributing to a winning team, whereas Kobe Bryant has completely fallen off and has frankly been hard to watch over the past 2 years. So, all in all, Duncan > Kobe.
Actually that draft hypothetical tweeted would include Kobe with a year or two of college time (otherwise I agree, that isn't fair and the choice is obv). I'd select Duncan over Kobe at any age except those early 2010s where Duncan played hurt and distracted all season to have a couple of his worst seasons while Kobe was still good. There were few seasons I would have taken Kobe instead.No problem with Duncan as the answer..
it's closer than Spur fan will admit ...
But it's Duncan.
LOL at the draft debate who wouldnt take a seasoned Duncan out of college over Kobe straight out of HS?! LeBron was the best prospect from HS I ever saw and I would have still chosen Duncan ... what does that prove?
what a dumb reason given by Spradley ...just say Duncan is better ... or you flat out prefer Tim.
lol TOSB kirby
Even then it wouldnt make much sense though. Coming out of school even if you did not know what Duncan would become in the NBA who would you legitimately take over Tim? I know some here thought Oden would be better if healthy but I NEVER saw that type of skill from him. I wont lie and say I knew Tim would be the GOAT PF or surpass Shaq (I thought that after Tim's rookie year though) but I knew he would be great based off his high skill level. Tim was the best college prospect since Shaq. Without hind sight I dont think it's close ...
Lebron? may be a greater NBA player (eventually) but coming out of HS you aint taking him over Tim
Kobe? No.
Durant? no.
Adavis? no
Melo? No
Dwight? No.
Duncan was a legit college star big men in a tough conference. Duncan should be the answer every year going back to Shaq. No way you take Tim over Shaq though ...
Last edited by Killakobe81; 12-04-2015 at 08:41 AM.
The only prospect anyone would take over Tim in the history of NBA would be Shaq, Hakeem, Kareem, and Wilt. Magic has a case, Lebron has a case.
Duncan was legit.
David , Ewing and Robinson too ...no way you take Lebron or Magic out of HS and college over Tim unless you already had a center.
Last edited by Killakobe81; 12-02-2015 at 04:35 PM.
Ewing and David were bigger stars in college no way Tim gets picked over them ...
I'm not picking a got regardless
Tim Duncan had it easy...no real compe ion and basically just a lazy ass....standing in the paint with your hands up asking for the ball is weak sauce....that negro ayed nowhere near the level of Kobe..he's subservient...he let Pop control his ass...he's weak mentally...that's why his ass lost 27 million due to various schemes....
Good luck in the lottery, Kool
After the fact, tell an owner you are going to get 17 consecutive season of +50 win season including 5 rings, and you would have him straight ordering his GM to pick Timmy over anybody in the history of the game but MJ, IMO..
Duncan longevity and constant steady self for near two decades (see his per 36) and how that has translated for franchise are something I'm confident won't be replicated any time soon..Let's face it, Parker/Ginobili, two primary sidekicks, and 6 years of post-prime D-Rob would barely get you one fifth of you have accomplished..
Tim at his peak was a good a playmaker as Kobe & had a higher points-per-shot ratio. The only thing Kobe did better was volume scoring, FT shooting, 3 pt shooting.
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