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    his point was that they didnt have to "resort to explosives because there were no guns" like you alluded to.

    a small fraction of gun crimes are committed with legally acquired firearms
    So the kid who grabbed his mom's stockpile of weapons recently (that she had even knowing her son was unstable) and went to town surely wouldn't have happened, right?

    Do you have statistics to support the claim about legal firearms?

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    1:13 Unknown number of shots reported near shopping center.

    SpursforSix this is the reddit live thread:

    https://www.reddit.com/live/w0nn1o5hu90y
    thanks

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    saw where they say the name "Syed" was mentioned over the scanners

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    So the kid who grabbed his mom's stockpile of weapons recently (that she had even knowing her son was unstable) and went to town surely wouldn't have happened, right?

    Do you have statistics to support the claim about legal firearms?
    He's correct. I've posted them here before. I'll look later after this finishes up.

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    That reddit thread is dangerous and are constantly removing updates due to false information or for whatever reason. This one can be quite dangerous:

    CORRECTION: A witness at Roberts Elementary reported a camouflaged middle-eastern man with a beard wearing a headset at the Waterman Discount Mall - possibly armed.

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    Read it was 3 white males in a ski mask.

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    That reddit thread is dangerous and are constantly removing updates due to false information or for whatever reason. This one can be quite dangerous:

    CORRECTION: A witness at Roberts Elementary reported a camouflaged middle-eastern man with a beard wearing a headset at the Waterman Discount Mall - possibly armed.
    These jokers need to source their posts.

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    That reddit thread is dangerous and are constantly removing updates due to false information or for whatever reason. This one can be quite dangerous:

    CORRECTION: A witness at Roberts Elementary reported a camouflaged middle-eastern man with a beard wearing a headset at the Waterman Discount Mall - possibly armed.
    Of course it's dangerous. I'm hoping law enforcement isn't using a Reddit thread for deployment.

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    "Schools in San Bernardino city placed on lockdown"

    What took so ing long?

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    Apparently related SWAT situation in Pasedena now per KTLA.

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    So the kid who grabbed his mom's stockpile of weapons recently (that she had even knowing her son was unstable) and went to town surely wouldn't have happened, right?

    Do you have statistics to support the claim about legal firearms?
    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...crimes-commit/

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    Apparently related SWAT situation in Pasedena now per KTLA.
    News is saying it is at the before mentioned Waterman mall.

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    I can't find a good scanner feed for Pasadena. Anyone got one?

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    News is saying it is at the before mentioned Waterman mall.
    Just confirmed not related to San Bernardino

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    So the kid who grabbed his mom's stockpile of weapons recently (that she had even knowing her son was unstable) and went to town surely wouldn't have happened, right?
    not even sure how this is relevant to my post whatsoever
    Do you have statistics to support the claim about legal firearms?
    sure. this is the most recent i had read on the subject

    http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...crimes-commit/

    edit: just saw tsa linked the same thing earlier

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    Man if they made it out before a perimeter was set up this could take awhile.

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    About 40 percent said they got it illegally on the black market, from a drug dealer or by stealing it.
    From the article.

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    , they're at pasadena? getting closer to home tbh

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    From the article.
    yeah, and only 11% had purchased them from stores or gun shows, which is the point where regulations would apply. 37% got them from friends or family, which may or may not be legal exchanges, but wouldn't be affected much by regulation

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    From the article.
    Keep reading

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    yeah, and only 11% had purchased them from stores or gun shows, which is the point where regulations would apply. 37% got them from friends or family, which may or may not be legal exchanges, but wouldn't be affected much by regulation
    That's 11% that would be less likely to fall into the hands of people who don't need them. What's the problem? No reason it can't be a part of a solution that has other parts.

    As opposed to what, exactly? Throwing our hands up in the air helplessly? Giving everyone guns?

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    If we ban guns in the US the gun black market would explode and all it would benefit is 2 groups. Gangs and the ATF.

    France is a living example.

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    That's 11% that would be less likely to fall into the hands of people who don't need them. What's the problem? No reason it can't be a part of a solution that has other parts.

    As opposed to what, exactly? Throwing our hands up in the air helplessly? Giving everyone guns?
    i never said i oppose tighter regulations. its just annoying to read comments like your first one in this thread when we have no information yet.

    its always easier on the mind to have a simple scapegoat, just like with sports (if we just remove player A, everything will be fixed, etc)

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    So it was a county employee Christmas party in that room. Who knows if it's relevant.

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    So it was a county employee Christmas party in that room. Who knows if it's relevant.
    way to many puzzle pieces to make sense of anything now, but at least there's been a flow of information

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