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lol severe gun control
strengthen background check laws isn't all that severe.
well, there's lots of stuff you don't know
severe gun control would mean fewer guns, which means less gun violence.
more guns means more gun violence.
lol severe gun control
strengthen background check laws isn't all that severe.
I didn't say it was, and b/g checks obviously are weak gun control (NRA blocks it anyway)
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And that accounts for the 25000 others how? You have one belief, the other poster has a contrasting one. Neither one is rooted in facts.
My opinion is absolutely rooted in fact. Refugees taken in by the US have not posed any significant terror threats in the U.S. Undeniable fact. RMT's position that Syrian refugees in the US pose a terror threat is rooted in irrational fear. Sorry, but that's reality.
Did you miss this from the refugee thread? They are trying.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...-chairman-says
"The NCTC (National Counterterrorism Center) has identified “individuals with ties to terrorist groups in Syria attempting to gain entry to the U.S. through the U.S. refugee program,” the intelligence agency told McCaul in a letter.
you cant use other people when were talking about 25 THOUSAND completely different individuals. Your "facts" are actually an opinion based on statistics, not any real vetting of the 25000 refugees. For all you REALLY know, there could be a thousand radicals, or absolutely zero. Youre just making an educated guess.
Once again, an opinion.
Now ISIS can make fake Syrian passports.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mi...3C6jWmeswLY.97
Did they gain entry to the U.S? Did they execute a terrorist attack?
So what is the "severe" gun control you speak of?
Mine is an educated guess based on facts. RMT's is an emotional response based on fear.
Once again, an opinion.
It's so nice to know that you have such detailed knowledge of my emotions.
You've lain your emotions out for all to read. You parrot AM radio talking points with little to no critical thinking or analysis of your own. You seem to be a nice enough lady, but I don't think you've come to many conclusions on your own. You clearly have an axe to grind with Obama specific to the ACA. Just my opinion.
Well, thank you for the nice compliment buried among all your educated guesses.
There's different brands of Muslim extremism. There's extremism based largely on our meddling over there. They re-interpret the Quran to validate martyrdom to fight for that cause. We can "get off the pot"--abandon Saudi Arabia, abandon Kuwait, abandon Israel, and in essence abandon any kind of issue over there for which there might just cause for intervention (i.e. humanitarian crisis, which the ME is no stranger to, what with Christians, Jews, women, gays and even their own having been subject to persecution over the centuries). If we we claim to stand for democratic & humanitarian principles, we'll always be over there to some extent tho--it's a cesspool of oppression. Then they'll attack us on those grounds, they already do. Additionally, they'll attack because of our cultural influence--these mongrels hate the fact that our technology, entertainment and way of life reach and influence people over there. They'd attack us for exporting our culture, they already do.
The other brand of Muslim extremism, Wahhabism, is based on attacking us only for our democratic & secular principles. We're infidels and deserve to die.
What I'm saying essentially is they'll attack us no matter what we do. And we have to respond to that in some way. So we'll always "meddle". We have no choice, there's no getting off of the pot. We can choose either to take a big or small .
Also, I believe we can respond forcefully without being stupid (i.e. operation Iraqi freedom). We don't need nor should we try and go all one man army. Requires an expansive global effort.
"If we we claim to stand for democratic & humanitarian principles"
America doesn't give a about other peoples' forms of govt or principles or democracy in other countries.
America only cares about America's on power and wealth.
America DESTROYS other countries' democracies if they don't serve America's power and wealth.
America ALWAYS supports, has for many decades, the NASTIEST, authoritarian, murderous mofo dictators if they support American power and wealth.
"I'm saying essentially is they'll attack us no matter what we do"
You're essentially a stupid flag waving mofo.
Muslims are attacking America anywhere because America FIRST attacked, invaded, occupied their countries to support America's empire, power, wealth.
March 2003 led directly to Bataclan and San Bernardino.
OBL himself said, America military occupying Saudi Arabia lead DIRECTLY to 9/11.
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Fascists lose in the second round, center right surges, Socialist trail:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35088276France's far-right National Front (FN) has failed to win a single region in the second round of elections, exit polls indicate.
Early results suggest the party was beaten into third place, despite leading in six of 13 regions in the first round of votes a week ago.
The polls predict Nicolas Sarkozy's centre-right Republicans will win most seats ahead of the ruling Socialists.
France's FN accused tactical voters seeking to block its path to power in two key regions of 'intellectual terrorism'.
Not saying the U.S. hasn't been hypocritical in who we've supported. We've certainly supported the spread of democracy in Eastern Europe, Korea, Palestine/Israel, and before that Germany, Italy, and Japan while turning a blind eye and allying to a country like Saudi Arabia."If we we claim to stand for democratic & humanitarian principles"
America doesn't give a about other peoples' forms of govt or principles or democracy in other countries.
America only cares about America's on power and wealth.
America DESTROYS other countries' democracies if they don't serve America's power and wealth.
America ALWAYS supports, has for many decades, the NASTIEST, authoritarian, murderous mofo dictators if they support American power and wealth.
"I'm saying essentially is they'll attack us no matter what we do"
You're essentially a stupid flag waving mofo.
Muslims are attacking America anywhere because America FIRST attacked, invaded, occupied their countries to support America's empire, power, wealth.
March 2003 led directly to Bataclan and San Bernardino.
OBL himself said, America military occupying Saudi Arabia lead DIRECTLY to 9/11.
Regardless, we've helped spread democracy, and we've only been able to do that by doing what's in our best interest. A strong U.S. is what influences it. They are not mutually exclusive goals, in fact the opposite.
Osama bin Laden and other terrorists have said a lot of things. It doesn't start and end with Saudi Arabia. It's Israel, it's Saudi Arabia, it's our humanitarian efforts there, our "heathen" culture seeping into and "polluting" theirs (bin Laden talked about that, too), and religious fundamentalism that calls for the extermination of infidels aka Wahhabism.
BTW, I take no offense to being called a "flag waver", it's complimentary. We're far from being a perfect country, but no country is. But there's a lot to like and respect about it. If you don't find that to be the case, then what's keeping you from packing your and leaving?
"we've helped spread democracy"
where?
Iran, Meso-America, Philippines, Greece, Chile, Iraq, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Egypt, etc. America has destroyed democracies it didn't like, created/supported authoritarian, anti-democratic regimes.
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