lol dabom still melting down hours later
You're so wrong.
In Washington, after dropping 18 points in the first half Kawhi touched the ball just once, twice...and it was great. He went could in the 4th and the team lost that game.
In Christmas game, Kawhi didn't even touch the ball in the whole 3rd quarter against Harden and it was fantastic, Parker missed shots in that quarter, and again, Kawhi went completely cold in the 4th.
That's the best way to play a young player...Don't give him the ball for an entire quarter!
You player fans are really emotional tonight.
Sometimes 3rd options turn into 1st options depending on the situation/matchup, etc.
Kawhi has to carry a HUGE load on defense. Tony being able to relieve him at times is big advantage to not only him but the team.
I'm not sure what you want? Ever since the Big 3 era, there's times when the star player (Duncan in the past) will get limited shot attempts/touches. If you think the Spurs can win a championship with predictable like force feeding Kawhi in the post or just throwing the ball to him to go one-on-one, you're living in fantasy land. Kawhi isn't Kevin Durant, Lebron James, prime Kobe Bryant, etc. He's indeed a good all around offensive player right now, but he isn't someone who can win a duel with Curry like those players could, no matter the touches.
I see a matchup with Golden State going like this:
- Kawhi loses the scoring duel with Curry.
- LMA (hopefully) equalizes Thompson.
- Duncan probably loses his duel with Green.
So where's that extra scoring punch going to come from? Manu is too inconsistent at his age and miles to count on 15ppg+. Role players? They got good role players, too. Tony has to be that guy who can potentially go off for 25 points in a key game and average 15-17ppg over the series.
Check my latest reply to YGWHI.
This is the Spurs. Players cycling scoring roles (going from number one option to number three and back again) has been happening all throughout the Big 3 era.
I also don't want to see Kawhi overused in the post. This isn't 2010.
Rk Player Age G GS MP FG FGA ▾ FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 1 Kawhi Leonard 23 7 7 250 52 109 .477 11 26 .423 41 83 .494 .528 27 35 .771 13 39 52 18 8 4 15 18 142 2 Tony Parker 32 7 7 210 33 91 .363 0 9 .000 33 82 .402 .363 10 17 .588 4 19 23 25 2 0 11 14 76 3 Tim Duncan 38 7 7 250 53 90 .589 0 1 .000 53 89 .596 .589 19 34 .559 19 59 78 23 9 10 7 26 125 4 Boris Diaw 32 7 0 198 34 71 .479 4 18 .222 30 53 .566 .507 9 13 .692 13 30 43 25 5 3 9 24 81
How was Tony last year in the playoffs as the 2nd/3rd most FGs? gots. /thread
dabom still ting himself after Tony shat on him.
That's stupid. Nobody wants that Kawhi touches the ball in every possessions but I can't help if you think it's reasonable that he doesn't get touches in 6 or 7 minutes of a quarter.
Also, if "he's just a jump shooter/post up player" they should play him as one. How many post-up plays they have called for him in the last games? His offensive role has been reduced to a three spot up shooter and he's not that player.
It's really hard to work that into our offense when he is logging a lot of minutes with Duncan, LMAlpha, and West. Those likeups don't lend their self to a small forward in the post. Plus, it just isn't our offensive philosophy. Maybe they could do it more.... but not much more without it having a negative effect on the offense or having to adjust lineups.
Personally, because Kawhi has such a mid range game I'd like to see the Spurs run him of multiple screens a couple times a game to get him open looks but I also know that he would expend more energy doing so and it might hurt his defense.
You know what I said. Kawhi's still developing his game and needs the touches to do it every night and not be iced 5-6 minutes a quarter.
If Parker averages 17ppg over the series that means Kawhi takes a lot less shots than him and scores 7 points. You know that they can't coexist as 17-18 ppg guys on the court.Tony has to be that guy who can potentially go off for 25 points in a key game and average 15-17ppg over the series.
Even if Kawhi loses the scoring duel with Curry, one thing is losing that 20-25 and other is 7-25.
I know, it's hard to believe for you this...but the Spurs won't win in playoffs with Kawhi scoring less than 10 points or taking less than 10 FGA.
Me neither. But it's a good option to get him going. He has the mismatch more than not. Others are being posted up so why not Leonard? He's been much better dealing with double and triple teams though he could improve there.
We're in agreement more than not too. I don't want or expect Leonard to get all the touches or shot attempts. I agree 2-3 guys sharing the scoring load is key against most teams.
My issue, and sorry I feel like a broken record, is parking Leonard at the 3 point line. Pop has an entire playbook at his disposal and an alley oop play is all he can come up for Leonard?
OP may not be a krew thread; but most the responders are. The sh** one must wade through in this forum....
If Kawhi had more cutters and shooters surrounding him then he could better create with his postup game.
TP was playing with injuries last season. This season has been different. The eye test could tell you the reality. Krewmen don't care about reality, tbh.
Rk Player Age G GS MP FG FGA ▾ FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 1 Kawhi Leonard 23 7 7 250 52 109 .477 11 26 .423 41 83 .494 .528 27 35 .771 13 39 52 18 8 4 15 18 142 2 Tony Parker 32 7 7 210 33 91 .363 0 9 .000 33 82 .402 .363 10 17 .588 4 19 23 25 2 0 11 14 76 3 Tim Duncan 38 7 7 250 53 90 .589 0 1 .000 53 89 .596 .589 19 34 .559 19 59 78 23 9 10 7 26 125 4 Boris Diaw 32 7 0 198 34 71 .479 4 18 .222 30 53 .566 .507 9 13 .692 13 30 43 25 5 3 9 24 81
How was Tony last year in the playoffs as the 2nd/3rd most FGs? gots. /thread
You must be exhausted after building about 20 straw men tonight.
Mid actually responding to the stupidest people on the interwebs
Took you a while to reply got. Can't deny anything?
He wasn't injured for the playoffs. Played all his minutes and then played the Euros. Dude was just a ing turd. No if and or buts.
dabom ting himself for hours on end, well into the morning.
Parker's great game broke him.
Took you a while to reply got. Can't deny anything?
, I just pulled a Mid
Are Krew members just a product of the Skip Bayless sports generation or has it always been like this on sports forums? I've been on forums for a long time but I don't really remember it being like this way back when.
Skip Bayless style is essentially to pick a player/team to support and anytime they do something well he pats himself on the back and when they do something poor he deflects, minimizes, and passes blame onto others. He becomes so one sides in his views that he loses all objectivity... and will hold to his original stance even if faced with a mountain of evidence. it seems like this has run pretty rampant here.
, I just pulled a Mid
Lol no. Tony is averaging 12.3ppg right now on about 10 shots per game. He can average 15-17 points per game on 13-16 shots. If he's in top health, he'll play more minutes in that series than he is now (as all starters tend to do). We'll also play at a higher pace going against Golden State (we'll try to control the pace, indeed, but a series against them will still naturally be played at a higher pace). There's plenty of shots to go around for our top 3/4 guys.
I wouldn't be alarmed at Kawhi's lack of shot attempts right now. Like I've said, this kind of rotating has been happening for a decade now.
The Spurs should give the ball to Kawhi in the post because he's a permanent mismatches creator there, for himself and others. He was one of the most efficient post-player in the game this season, over .80%, and the team stopped using him.
Kawhi still takes mid jumps in a game, why not giving him open looks even if he expends some energy instead of bad/contested shots...Personally, because Kawhi has such a mid range game I'd like to see the Spurs run him of multiple screens a couple times a game to get him open looks but I also know that he would expend more energy doing so and it might hurt his defense.
Young players build his confidence on the offensive end and it would be better if he sees the ball going in than not.
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