kevin martin - Better than huey duey or luey

[tholdren]

I think you are just refusing to acknowledge that Kyle has been a useful player that has helped us win games and who adds good things to our team, bc of that you see no point in playing him at this stage, when the reality is different. He's helped us win a lot of games and had a few stretches playing without Manu that Tony himself said he was probably playing better than any of them in the team. He was scoring efficiently, but I doubt that is what it was about bc so were other ppl. More than anything, he was executing defensively.

I think if Kmart was able to execute what Pop wants defensively then it would be a clear cut decision for Pop, but he hasn't and its not. Him scoring a few in garbage time doesn't tilt the scales more in his direction than Boban doing it. If he can't execute the defensive scheme Pop wants and you can't hide him he won't play.

Won't debate everything else bc we have been through it. You know the roles KA has played and how good he's been in them.

Kyle is garbage

[ceperez]

I think you are just refusing to acknowledge that Kyle has been a useful player that has helped us win games and who adds good things to our team, bc of that you see no point in playing him at this stage, when the reality is different. He's helped us win a lot of games and had a few stretches playing without Manu that Tony himself said he was probably playing better than any of them in the team. He was scoring efficiently, but I doubt that is what it was about bc so were other ppl. More than anything, he was executing defensively.

I think if Kmart was able to execute what Pop wants defensively then it would be a clear cut decision for Pop, but he hasn't and its not. Him scoring a few in garbage time doesn't tilt the scales more in his direction than Boban doing it. If he can't execute the defensive scheme Pop wants and you can't hide him he won't play.

Won't debate everything else bc we have been through it. You know the roles KA has played and how good he's been in them.

I agree that at this time KA has a lot better defense than Martin.

I wish Spurs still had Butler. I don't know why Martin at 6'7" doesn't seem to have the defensive presence one would expect for someone his size.

What I like Martin though is that he's like Mills in offense where he's able to score by moving around in the perimeter. He's also one of the better Spurs players in transition offense. I also like seeing Mills, Green and Martin on the court at the same time. Lots of 3 point opportunities.

[Harry Callahan]

Martin was stuck in Sac town for way too long - lost most of his prime years out there.

He will provide ample firepower off the bench to fill in any blanks for Ginobili. Manu very likely won't be "on" each and every playoff game since he is 38 now.

Kevin might be a key bench member for the next couple of years kind of like Brent Barry. He's a very slippery player on the offensive end. Was Brent Barry a strong defensive player? I don't think he was but he could play in our system with good defensive bigs. The Spurs again have that characteristic.

[TheGreatYacht]

If Kyle Anderson played 36 minutes a game he'd be on pace to average 10.1ppg, 3.4apg and 1.9TO. That's absolutely terrible.

KMart has showed more in 7 games than this scrub in 2 years

[snickles]

Spurs still reeling from allowing their best outside threat to go in the preseason. Sad.

[BackHome]

Did you just use the word "FACE" ok give up your Man card and replace it with card.

[apalisoc_9]

Spurtacular sounds like rhe typical ignorant white american

So stupid

[KenziE]

Spurtacular sounds like rhe typical ignorant white american

So stupid

wahahaha

[Brazil]

Is the last part of your post sarcastic? Kmart has never been a stick on his hands kinda scorer..i mean hes had years where his teams wanted him to but his best assest has always been his ability to get himself open by understanding what is happening in the half court and making moves to free himself up.

Hes best offensive weapn has always been his ability to move and get himself open without the ball.

yes... it was a bit of poking Chinook who explained in another thread that Martin needs the ball in his hands and he would suck in Spurs on catch and shoot situations

[Brazil]

10 MPG including garbage time. He's played 77 percent of his minutes in games where the Spurs pulled their guys early.

10 mpg was after his first couple of games it is eviden Spurs are gonna use him more than just spot garbage minutes... he is now at 14 btw

He's behind Bonner in every advanced metric. Don't get me wrong, he's ahead of a lot of people too. But small sample size and playing mostly garbage time will do that for you. Look at Boban.

sure... still better than with min

Sixth on the team still, with one of the guys ahead of him being Boban. And he's shooting the sixth most threes per 36, lower than any perimeter rotation player other than Parker (though I guess he's almost tied with Leonard). And from the eye test, he's only gotten off two good looks so far. His other two makes have been with heavy pressure, which is nice in the sense that it shows he can make contested shots but bad in the sense that those shots shouldn't have been contested. He's been run off the line quite a bit, which you don't expect against garbage-time players.

He has been hired for shooting 3s... he is shooting 3s... yup we agree


ps: sorry for late answer, I was off for 4 days skiing in Alps...

[tholdren]

Kevin is soft. He's never bodied up anyone defensively, and his instincts on that side of the floor are poor at best. He's a scorer. Spurs just have to teach him to use his length on defense. Without aggressiveness he will never be good, but at least teach him how to use peripheral and not turn his back.

[SAGirl]

Kevin is soft. He's never bodied up anyone defensively, and his instincts on that side of the floor are poor at best. He's a scorer. Spurs just have to teach him to use his length on defense. Without aggressiveness he will never be good, but at least teach him how to use peripheral and not turn his back.

He definitely loses his man off the ball very often. On the ball he's better so long as he doesn't get posted up bc he has quick feet. Right now has the worst defensive metrics in the team despite Pop actually making an effort to hide him on nonthrearts, or with good defensive lineups for the most part.

Still, his defensive struggles aside, the elephant in the room is that he's not scoring well enough to justify his time.

[ceperez]

He definitely loses his man off the ball very often. On the ball he's better so long as he doesn't get posted up bc he has quick feet. Right now has the worst defensive metrics in the team despite Pop actually making an effort to hide him on nonthrearts, or with good defensive lineups for the most part.

Still, his defensive struggles aside, the elephant in the room is that he's not scoring well enough to justify his time.

Unfortunately, unlike Butler, he can't guard the SF or PF positions.

I still think picking up Martin was a good move. The questionable move though was dumping Butler. We still have Bonner who doesn't bring anything to the table.

[GSH]

Kevin is soft. He's never bodied up anyone defensively, and his instincts on that side of the floor are poor at best. He's a scorer. Spurs just have to teach him to use his length on defense. Without aggressiveness he will never be good, but at least teach him how to use peripheral and not turn his back.

You say Kawhi is soft, too. And David Robinson. And if I went back and checked, you're probably one of the ones who said Aldridge is soft.

Kl is the new version of david. Great skulls on both ends. But soft. The sad part is I would rather have manu with the ball in the closing seconds than kl, and kl probably would too.

I guess they need to be more like you. At home. With your keyboard. Tough.

[DeRozan m8]

When did Kyle ever help us win a game?

Dude is a nothing out there, he doesn't bring us anything, I could legit do the same thing he does...nothing passes and passing up shots.

[KenziE]

You say Kawhi is soft, too. And David Robinson. And if I went back and checked, you're probably one of the ones who said Aldridge is soft.



I guess they need to be more like you. At home. With your keyboard. Tough.

[GSH]

Why can't you prove that racism is prevalent in the inner city?

You've had every opportunity to do so, yet you continuously fail.

Only one more post for 100K, Chump. And it's been a whole week since you've pissed on Spurtacular. Just saying.