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    well then from now on if you accuse him of dodging a question it would be hypocrisy, too

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    TSA seems to be confused on the age of consent issue.

    legally, it's clear cut within jurisdictions.

    for a lot people it's cut and dried morally too.
    Minors can't give consent, does not mean a minor can't be willing.

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    Minors can't give consent, does not mean a minor can't be willing.
    Quoted for posterity.

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    Quoted for posterity.
    I never said because I thought the 17 year old was willing that a crime was not committed by Hastert.

    Here's another case of a willing under age male who couldn't give consent to his 9 hour threesome with two good looking teachers.
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/11/lo...r-illicit-sex/

    Most guys I know wished something like that happened to them in high school, who's to say the 17 year old didn't feel the same way about getting his knob polished by Hastert?

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    Most guys I know wished something like that happened to them in high school, who's to say the 17 year old didn't feel the same way about getting his knob polished by Hastert?
    You mean besides the minor who was molested and the adult who did the molesting? I suppose no one. How about the other children Hastert molested? You're very quiet about them. PEDO-DEFENDER BRIGADE.

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    You mean besides the minor who was molested and the adult who did the molesting? I suppose no one. How about the other children Hastert molested? You're very quiet about them. PEDO-DEFENDER BRIGADE.
    He molested all of them, I never once said he did not. What you are having time grasping is that a person under the age of consent can still be willing and enjoy their sexual assault.

    like this kid for example:

    "The threesome is what made national headlines, though. And why wouldn’t it? The epic event impressively lasted from 9 p.m. until 6 a.m. the next morning, according to local police.
    St. Charles Parish Sheriff’s deputies say the threesome happened on a Friday night, after a high school football game (which Destrehan won easily, 41-7). It was a special night, too, because it was Dufresne’s birthday.
    Dufresne “enticed and transported” the student to Respess’s apartment, explains the New York Daily News. Respess, the younger teacher, and the teen had sex. Meanwhile, Dufresne “began intimately kissing” the younger teacher “in an attempt to arouse all parties involved, all who were complete[ly] disrobed.”
    Dufresne had been the student’s English teacher this year. Respress had the pleasure of teaching him in English class last year.
    The sheriff’s office was tipped off after school officials reported that the unidentified student was bragging to friends about his exploits"


    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/11/lo...#ixzz480Z5veWk

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    What you are having time grasping is that a person under the age of consent can still be willing and enjoy their sexual assault.
    Quoted for posterity.

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    Quoted for posterity.
    Assuming you are a guy and straight, as a 16 year old would you have been willing and enjoyed having sex with these two teachers yes or no?


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    I dont understand the relevancy of the hypothetical "enjoyment". Doesn't really seem germane to the topic in any way.

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    I dont understand the relevancy of the hypothetical "enjoyment". Doesn't really seem germane to the topic in any way.
    The topic is actually about anti-Trump protesters using violence to quiet the opposition.

    And the enjoyment isn't always hypothetical. "The sheriff’s office was tipped off after school officials reported that the unidentified student was bragging to friends about his exploits"

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    did they do the same with Denny Hastert?

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    Minors can't give consent, does not mean a minor can't be willing.
    seems a distinction without a difference. why does it matter if the victim is willing?
    Last edited by Winehole23; 05-08-2016 at 04:07 AM.

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    seems a distinction without a difference. why does it matter if the victim is willing?
    Victimhood is based on an arbitrary age decided by the state, not by the person participating. Do you think the 16 year old who banged two of his teachers for 9 hours feels like a victim? Or his he just a victim because his state decided for him that he is not old enough to decide for himself whether or not a 9 hour threesome would be a good idea.

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    Simple yes or no will do here Shasta.
    Assuming you are a guy and straight, as a 16 year old would you have been willing and enjoyed having sex with these two teachers yes or no?


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    "Victimhood is based on an arbitrary age decided by the state"

    yep, laws is laws, except when you anarchists want to criminalize the victim, protect the predator.

    walked any ladies recently? you know they use birth control because they are s, nymphomaniacs, right?







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    "Victimhood is based on an arbitrary age decided by the state"

    yep, laws is laws, except when you anarchists want to criminalize the victim, protect the predator.

    walked any ladies recently? you know they use birth control because they are s, nymphomaniacs, right?






    My fiancé uses birth control because her IUD was hitting the tip of my and causing me a lot of pain.

    Is the predator still a predator if it's a high school girl who has been dating and having sexual relations with her boyfriend of 2 years and she just turned 18 and he's still only 17?

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    boutons_deux

    Assuming you are a guy and straight, as a 16 year old would you have been willing and enjoyed having sex with these two teachers yes or no?


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    My fiancé uses birth control because her IUD was hitting the tip of my and causing me a lot of pain.

    Is the predator still a predator if it's a high school girl who has been dating and having sexual relations with her boyfriend of 2 years and she just turned 18 and he's still only 17?
    under age sex is a state statutory felony. If you don't want to obey the law, elect legislators to repeal it.

    There was one judge, a red state judge IIRC, that gave a convicted rapist only 30 days jail, because the underage victim was active sexually.

    These bag of Christian Taliban judges refuse to acknowledge "legitimate rape", as the Repug Rape Caucus calls it, is different from consensual sex. iow, if you're girl who s, then anybody can have a go at you, sorta like Muslim and Hindu countries.

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    under age sex is a state statutory felony. If you don't want to obey the law, elect legislators to repeal it.

    There was one judge, a red state judge IIRC, that gave a convicted rapist only 30 days jail, because the underage victim was active sexually.

    These bag of Christian Taliban judges refuse to acknowledge "legitimate rape", as the Repug Rape Caucus calls it, is different from consensual sex. iow, if you're girl who s, then anybody can have a go at you, sorta like Muslim and Hindu countries.
    I didn't ask you about any of this other bull . Is the 18 year old girl a sexual predator yes or no?

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    This thread is such bull . Just admit that leftist activists can be stupid, irrational and violent like everyone else. It's not hard, and it doesn't mean that you think Trump is any more right or justified. But this ad homenim tactic is so ing idiotic.

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    This thread is such bull . Just admit that leftist activists can be stupid, irrational and violent like everyone else. It's not hard, and it doesn't mean that you think Trump is any more right or justified. But this ad homenim tactic is so ing idiotic.
    During this election the leftist activist have actually been more violent.

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    I think you missed my point. The conversation operates on many tracks. The logical track claims supremacy, yet cannot enforce it on bulletin boards.
    No. Your point is stupid and fallacious. TSA could BE a child molester, like one who's convicted and proud, and it would still have nothing to do with this thread. You're just proving his point. There is legit violence by people who oppose Trump. No one's even argued against it. Instead, people are just ignoring it, and you guys in this thread who are going off on this ad homenim tangent are just reinforcing it. It's de able.

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    This thread is such bull . Just admit that leftist activists can be stupid, irrational and violent like everyone else. It's not hard, and it doesn't mean that you think Trump is any more right or justified. But this ad homenim tactic is so ing idiotic.
    Sorry but Trump encouraged violence by promising financial support for potential law breakers to extremely enthusiastic support multiple times. He is the GOP's presidential candidate. Since he said those things the violence has escalated in the environment he created. There is much more violence at GOP events. That isn't ad hominem.

    Sorry that you identify by US political dualism but it is what it is.

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