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    Why are the Spurs always on the losing end of these controversial calls?

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    Be that as it may, there were a lot of pulling, tugging etc, including a Spurs fan grabbing Steven Adams' arm when there's still time in the clock. The Spurs had ample opportunity to close it out but couldn't. Waiters nudge didn't decide the game.
    I agree that the call didn't cost the Spurs the game. But is grabbing a jersey a foul? I mean it happens on every possession.

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    Clock starts before anyone touches the ball.

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    Doesn't matter, with the scrum down on the floor at the end, time would have run out. Non-issue.

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    Referee Marc Davis:

    * Doesn't call the shove
    * Doesn't call the travel on Waiters jumping to throw inbounds
    * Starts clock as soon as ball leaves Waiters hand

    Wonder what kind of bonus that sack of will get from the league for that.
    And after Patty shot the 3, he didn't even look at the potential contact by Adams. His eyes were glued to the ball. He was in sports fan mode. Best seat in the house.

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    They'll probably admit they missed the call, but bring up how a violation should've been called on Manu first for stepping out of bounds.
    This will be their out for that no-call, drawing a moral equivalency between something that happens quite frequently, and something that basically never happens.

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    Clock was a non issue but man did Patty rush that three. He had 3 more seconds to fake and let Adams bump into him or put the ball on the floor and get a midrange.

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    Referee Marc Davis:

    * Doesn't call the shove
    * Doesn't call the travel on Waiters jumping to throw inbounds
    * Starts clock as soon as ball leaves Waiters hand

    Wonder what kind of bonus that sack of will get from the league for that.
    Actually looking at that replay, inexcusable that he missed the traveling call on Waiters. Everything else was very minor compared to that.

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    Ref staring right at it and ignores it, fix was in

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    I agree that the call didn't cost the Spurs the game. But is grabbing a jersey a foul? I mean it happens on every possession.
    No, they don't call a violation on those especially in the closing seconds. I'm just stating that there were a billion things going on that could've decided the game, but this one just isn't meant for the Spurs. On to game 3.

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    How many ing breaks do Spurs fans want to win the game? They blew it. Luckily OKC constantly gives games away in the fourth like they tried to tonight, so the Spurs should be fine in this series.

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    So one last clarification on a few things:

    O The intent of the rule about guarding an inbounds is not for what Manu did. It's why you see that happen all the time and never called. It's designed to prevent a defender from gaining an unfair advantage and/or touching the inbounder.

    O Even if you wanted to go by the letter of the rule (which from my understanding is the incorrect interpretation of the rule) then Waiters, before Manu steps on the line, has the ball over the inbounds line which is a violation.

    But just like that wasn't called because it's not the intent, Manu's wasn't called. The only missed call was Waiters push there and it was egregious.

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    Mills should've pumped and taken the foul. Adams was not gonna be able to stop.
    Thinking the same thing.

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    Actually looking at that replay, inexcusable that he missed the traveling call on Waiters. Everything else was very minor compared to that.
    The dude started the clock as soon as it left the hands of Waiters. Either ridiculously incompetent, or fixed.

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    Be that as it may, there were a lot of pulling, tugging etc, including a Spurs fan grabbing Steven Adams' arm when there's still time in the clock. The Spurs had ample opportunity to close it out but couldn't. Waiters nudge didn't decide the game.
    Pulling a Jersey? lol......

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    So one last clarification on a few things:

    O The intent of the rule about guarding an inbounds is not for what Manu did. It's why you see that happen all the time and never called. It's designed to prevent a defender from gaining an unfair advantage and/or touching the inbounder.

    O Even if you wanted to go by the letter of the rule (which from my understanding is the incorrect interpretation of the rule) then Waiters, before Manu steps on the line, has the ball over the inbounds line which is a violation.

    But just like that wasn't called because it's not the intent, Manu's wasn't called. The only missed call was Waiters push there and it was egregious.
    That's a really good point about extending the ball over the line by Waiters.

    Davis missed THREE violations and started the clock early. That sack of should have been on the podium after the game to explain himself.

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    Just asked in game thread; but maybe better here...Is that foul by the inbounding player supposed to be 1 FT and the ball or no?

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    Cwebb is legit mad

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    Spurs are going to win game 3...book it...

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    And Adams is legit mad at someone in the crowd for pulling his arm Go Spurs(fans) go!

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    Just asked in game thread; but maybe better here...Is that foul by the inbounding player supposed to be 1 FT and the ball or no?
    It's up to the referee's discretion, based on the rule book.

    At a minimum, it should have been an offensive foul and Spurs ball. If the ref deems the contact excessive, they can call it a technical, which would have resulted in a technical FT and the ball.

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    My Magic with the goods. Could care less about Imam's trolling, tbh.

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    It's up to the referee's discretion, based on the rule book.

    At a minimum, it should have been an offensive foul and Spurs ball. If the ref deems the contact excessive, they can call it a technical, which would have resulted in a technical FT and the ball.
    TNT guys spouted technical; but it seems like a tech is rarely called on a basketball play. That tends to be reserved for extracaricular activities. I wasn't sure if it may also have qualified as a dead ball foul applicalbe to one shot. For instance, intentionally fouling an offensive man without the ball is a one shot and the ball foul.

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    What the was Ginobili thinking? Three from an ice cold Mills with like 8 seconds left and only down one? the no-call, your boy blew the game tonight Nono.
    Spurs collectively lost the game tonight, except for the mighty Aldridge. Manu just put the icing on the sh-t cake with that bone-headed pass. IDIOT.

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